Sky Blue Kid
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Not according to the CT of which I've already posted about #172. Unless you're showing me spin to make SISU look good?
Oh and look, got a "Like" from CCC hating Torchy, Bless :angelic:
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Oh and look, got a "Like" from CCC hating Torchy, Bless :angelic:
Nick
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Instead of copying and pasting something and keep trying to refer back to it, what point are you trying to make?
Sky Blue Kid
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Now unless I'm reading this wrong.. Which I don't think I am, Wasps were granted the 250 years Lease AFTER the deal to secure ACL and NOT BEFORE as you imply.
skybluebeduff
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Truth mixed with lies, just like a politician. If he just blatantly lied about everything he would be rumbled by the fans and media wouldn't he?
It seems this your way of deflecting the questions you were asked.
Nick
Administrator
The lease extension was agreed in the same meeting at the council for their shares for ACL (before the higgs side was done) wasn't it?
Sky Blue Kid
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My reply to you was in regards to the highlighted part of your post.
Nick
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Yes, I am still not sure what point you are trying to prove?
The council approved their 50% and the lease in a meeting, before Higgs had "agreed" anything.
Sky Blue Kid
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Who's that mate?
torchomatic
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LOL, so it isn't all lies, it is truth mixed with lies. And then you accuse me of deflecting! And, I wasn't asked any questions, I just replied to the post.
But we're told constantly on here by everyone including you that he lies all the times, so you really need to make your mind up. I presume you'll believe the bits that suit and discard the bits that don't. Fair enough.
skybluebeduff
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"So what is your point on SISU not forcing CCC into a corner?"
That's what Astute asked you, but you just deflect it by saying 'But I thought Tim lies"
How many times have you used that statement?
skybluebeduff
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First bit is about Fisher, 2nd bit was about Astutes question to SBT's resident deflector.
torchomatic
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As many times as you and others have, he is lying all the time, until it suits.
skybluebeduff
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Sky Blue Kid
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Who walked right in with eyes wide open and agreed to the rent? It wasn't CCC. Yes I've already agreed about 2 years ago that the rent was too high and CCC must take some of the blame for what is happening now, but SISU are the "Major Player" in this shitfest Torchy. I think you need to admit the same too.
torchomatic
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Just as I thought.
And he didn't ask me the question, he asked it to Zack, didn't he?
torchomatic
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Just as I thought.
So Tim Fisher does tell the truth sometimes then ? Could you let me know which of his statements have been true and which have been false? No deflecting now. Thanks.
torchomatic
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I totally agree with you there. SISU are the major player in this shitfest - I have said many times they take the lions share of the blame - but not the only player, which is a fact many on here really struggle with.
skybluebeduff
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Reverse it and you tell me, there's a good chap. It's you who wants to know isn't it?
torchomatic
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skybluebeduff
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THought so.
Yet it's you who's using the "I thought tim lies about everything line" and then you want me to list his entire statements to pick out the truth from the lies.
I'll give you the best one if you want, stadium plans are 3 weeks away...
Sky Blue Kid
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And look where that got him!
torchomatic
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Unfortunately, look where it got us, CCFC and the fans.
torchomatic
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But I'm not the one who says he lies all the time. You are.
I'll give you one of his convenient truths: we aren't interested in the Ricoh.
skybluebeduff
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We both know what Tim is and what Tim isn't, that we can agree on.
Sky Blue Kid
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I think on that one, you can perm any 9 from 10, and you won't be that far out.
Sky Blue Kid
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I personally would say that, the only "Real Truths" he has ever spoken were, "We're going to Northampton" and "The Ricoh rent is too high" and the second statement nobody other than SISU can be blamed for.... That famous phrase once again..."Due Diligence"
Astute
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So Wasps got the arena and lease extension without ever having to negotiate?
Astute
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So what is nonsense about me saying that Wasps got it because they were prepared to negotiate?
Astute
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I know. You are allowed to say about him and his lies until you put blame of any sort onto SISU. Then someone comes out with the line you just have.
Astute
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Yet you say that there were no negotiations
Nick
Administrator
Where?
Astute
Well-Known Member
Name one time I have blamed them for everything.
We both agree that Richardson deserves more of the blame than he gets from some. But whatever anyone says SISU gave CCC the chance to get out and they took it. The rest is down to interpretation of what happened.
You know that I say that CCC should never have let Wasps have it. But I understand why they did. No side was fully truthful. They all played a game that will cost CCFC dearly.
Grendel
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You said the lease was offered post sale implying the cost if sale was on a 42 year lease - that's none sense.
Astute
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You can go back and look at what has been insinuated. I am too busy to waste any more time on stupid arguments like this.
Astute
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The nonsense is you trying to make out that Wasps got what they wanted without negotiating.