The Butts (9 Viewers)

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Looks like something might finally be breaking through their thick skin, keep up the good work.

 

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[Covstu]

I do love the way that the observer has backed away from involvement in the campaign. 'One city newspaper' hmmm....

 

[cloughie]

Strange you quote me but never have the balls to actually debate anyone who argues against your obvious hatred of the club.

Same as when you were jack griffin. Always up the councils arse - never posting about football

You don't even have the balls to answer nicks Pm's

You won't have the balls to answer this will you Council boy?

You really are some angry man , ever thought of anger management programme or psychiatric therapy
I am sure your employers wouldn't want to lose you and have these facilities available

 

[rupert_bear]

BPA ? Whose still flogging that dead horse ?

 

[ccfc92]

Ricoh owners Wasps – with £43million debts and ongoing losses but success on the pitch – last year cited ongoing legal action as a reason for calling off talks with Coventry City over a deal for the Sky Blues to remain there after next season, when the current rental deal expires.

The Sky Blues have said they received a paltry £73,000 for the whole of last season in matchday revenues from the stadium – with Wasps creaming off the rest – and nothing in commercial non-matchday stadium revenues, which could otherwise be ploughed back into the team.

Nice "neutral" reporting there

 

[Captain Dart]

You really are some angry man , ever thought of anger management programme or psychiatric therapy
I am sure your employers wouldn't want to lose you and have these facilities available

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[robbiekeane]

Ricoh owners Wasps – with £43million debts and ongoing losses but success on the pitch – last year cited ongoing legal action as a reason for calling off talks with Coventry City over a deal for the Sky Blues to remain there after next season, when the current rental deal expires.

The Sky Blues have said they received a paltry £73,000 for the whole of last season in matchday revenues from the stadium – with Wasps creaming off the rest – and nothing in commercial non-matchday stadium revenues, which could otherwise be ploughed back into the team.

Nice "neutral" reporting there

Well they don't own the fucking thing do they

 

[Nick]

The Butts

 

[hutch1972]

"Break even is all that matters"
If the Ricoh doesn't suit that aim.
Does it matter massively if you 'breakeven' in division 4 in front of Less than 10000 fans.
Or in the bottom halve of division 3
In front of 11-15k fans.
Whichever guarantees you breakeven you will choose.
The only way that would make sense to me is they don't believe the Wasps model is sustainable. So you either get CCFc to a point where you can sit and wait till Wasps break.
Or
You convince everyone you are ok to sit as you are forever as you are at 'breakeven'. Whilst you wait for something to happen because Wasps can't maintain what they are doing. I.E who blinks first.

No idea which it is. Very hard to work out what our owners' long term plan is.

Imo they are waiting for a financial crash at wasps.
This will happen eventually, question is where will we actually be in 2 or 3 years time.

 

[Gosford Green]

Strange you quote me but never have the balls to actually debate anyone who argues against your obvious hatred of the club.

Same as when you were jack griffin. Always up the councils arse - never posting about football

You don't even have the balls to answer nicks Pm's

You won't have the balls to answer this will you Council boy?

Lost on your point I hate Leicester so I would not go on a festa forum.

 

[ccfc92]

What is Les on about here?

"The Sky Blues have said they received a paltry £73,000 for the whole of last season in matchday revenues from the stadium – with Wasps creaming off the rest – and nothing in commercial non-matchday stadium revenues, which could otherwise be ploughed back into the team."

I thought CCFC share the percentage taken off Compass 50/50 with Wasps on City matchdays.

Wasps have not creamed off the rest, Compass who invested a large some of money, have got some return on their investment.

He seems pissed off because he was so out on his exclusive "Sky Blues new home" exclusive.

John Sharp and the board do not want to work with SISU. All the rest is deflection from this main point.

Blame the fans, the council, Millerchip, Wasps and the Telegraph. I don't buy it. SISU have poisoned the "brand" Coventry City FC.

That is fact. Very sad that the club is suffering.

Les is getting embarrassing.

The bloke's as much of a twat, as Gilbert.

 

[ccfc92]

I've never understood all this BPA talk? Its not suitable for CCFC going forward.and there is a perfectly suitable stadium we play in now and can keep doing so I'm sure. Owning our stadium is not the priority in the medium term. Working with WASP and getting the team successful first is. IF we should go for our own stadium it will need to have an ability to house 30k people. No point wasting time on this BPA nonsense. Its a distraction from all things SISU and their removal.

Wait, we don't plan on being in L1 and 2 forever? You're a nut job, sir

 

[ccfc92]

"Break even is all that matters"
If the Ricoh doesn't suit that aim.
Does it matter massively if you 'breakeven' in division 4 in front of Less than 10000 fans.
Or in the bottom halve of division 3
In front of 11-15k fans.
Whichever guarantees you breakeven you will choose.
The only way that would make sense to me is they don't believe the Wasps model is sustainable. So you either get CCFc to a point where you can sit and wait till Wasps break.
Or
You convince everyone you are ok to sit as you are forever as you are at 'breakeven'. Whilst you wait for something to happen because Wasps can't maintain what they are doing. I.E who blinks first.

No idea which it is. Very hard to work out what our owners' long term plan is.

You'd like to think if SISU are playing the waiting game, they'd do everything they can to get the supporters on their side?

Taking everyone to court, taking the club to Sixfields, selling off Ryton, then blame the fans for the club's short comings.....

 

[CCFC54321]

Imo they are waiting for a financial crash at wasps.
This will happen eventually, question is where will we actually be in 2 or 3 years time.

Couldn't agree more. The financial numbers don't match up and Wasps are tossing money around on players they can't afford. The Ricoh was obtained on the 'never never' and they have to pay back a bond they won't be able to pay back on the current terms. They have a average gate of 13k which includes free tickets galore and under 10's going free. It's heading for a financial mess in a few years time with Wasps. The rugby worlds letting them get on with it as it'll go sour as they will be bust.

They also can't get a decent sponsership I understand for when the Ricoh naming rights end.... rugby simply doesn't attract the big money and wasps think it'll just happen. It won't happen without a football club there.

What happens to the Ricoh then?

 

[Otis]

Couldn't agree more. The financial numbers don't match up and Wasps are tossing money around on players they can't afford. The Ricoh was obtained on the 'never never' and they have to pay back a bond they won't be able to pay back on the current terms. They have a average gate of 13k which includes free tickets galore and under 10's going free. It's heading for a financial mess in a few years time with Wasps. The rugby worlds letting them get on with it as it'll go sour as they will be bust.

They also can't get a decent sponsership I understand for when the Ricoh naming rights end.... rugby simply doesn't attract the big money and wasps think it'll just happen. It won't happen without a football club there.

What happens to the Ricoh then?

Cov Utd move in.

 

[oldfiver]

I would have sworn you were talking about "Les... The award winning journalist ... Reid" then!

Definitely not me then? :cigar:

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

If anyone is looking for who to blame look no further than an organisation that sues anyone that takes a decision they don't like. Who'd want to partner with that kind of Company???

 

[georgehudson]

It seems that every chance he gets that 'piece of work' Fisher blames the fans.
Imho, he is not fit to be Chairman of OUR club, go forth & multiply Fisher you charlatan.
& those sections of the media that reckon they have to present a balanced view - get a fucking grip.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Definitely not me then? :cigar:

Narcissism takes many forms

 

[oldfiver]

Narcissism takes many forms

Not for me - hay fever sufferer :shifty:

 

[italiahorse]

If anyone is looking for who to blame look no further than an organisation that sues anyone that takes a decision they don't like. Who'd want to partner with that kind of Company???

They are toxic and anybody that deals with them will be tarred with the same brush.
The problem is that CCC, Wasps, CRFC and CCFC fans can't stand them or their poisoned representative Fisher.
Wasps sponsors are holding back on things like stadium deals/sponsorship and CRFC don't want to fall into the same trap.
At what point do Wasps have enough of it and just 'diplomatically' force CCFC out so they can move on ?

 

[chiefdave]

If anyone is looking for who to blame look no further than an organisation that sues anyone that takes a decision they don't like. Who'd want to partner with that kind of Company???

Are you referring to Higgs? :woot:

 

[chiefdave]

Wasps sponsors are holding back on things like stadium deals/sponsorship

I thought CCFC were off the radar and insignificant?

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Are you referring to Higgs? :woot:

Well they are to blame in some people's eyes.

 

[Nick]

Well they are to blame in some people's eyes.

Who has said Higgs are fully to blame for everything?

There is grey between the black or white you know

 

[ricohroar]

Chief Dave Nick scroll up a few posts ;-)

 

[Nick]

Chief Dave Nick scroll up a few posts ;-)

I meant who is seriously blaming them and not being sarcastic

 

[shmmeee]

His dad was leader of the council. He's been indoctrinated since a child. You have to pity him really.

You are quite literally insane.

I assume you have no arguments about any of the points raised and that's why you resort to pathetic insults about someone's job 20 years ago.

I'd explain things like why the council built a swimming pool after massive public outcry to you, but I'm not sure I have enough crayons.

 

[Nick]

You are quite literally insane.

I assume you have no arguments about any of the points raised and that's why you resort to pathetic insults about someone's job 20 years ago.

I'd explain things like why the council built a swimming pool after massive public outcry to you, but I'm not sure I have enough crayons.

Although, can you explain why they include Rugby facilities with the swimming pool?

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

Couldn't agree more. The financial numbers don't match up and Wasps are tossing money around on players they can't afford. The Ricoh was obtained on the 'never never' and they have to pay back a bond they won't be able to pay back on the current terms. They have a average gate of 13k which includes free tickets galore and under 10's going free. It's heading for a financial mess in a few years time with Wasps. The rugby worlds letting them get on with it as it'll go sour as they will be bust.

They also can't get a decent sponsership I understand for when the Ricoh naming rights end.... rugby simply doesn't attract the big money and wasps think it'll just happen. It won't happen without a football club there.

What happens to the Ricoh then?

Yeah its a right mess for Wasps, I wonder if they regret buying the Ricoh? top of the Premiership, later stages of European cup, several lifetimes lease of stadium, near capacity crowds,I could go on.........
They came, they saw, they conquered. But lets wait for them to fail, it looks that way doesn't it?
I wish they were not in Coventry and certainly not at our ground, whoops their ground, however I don't hold any grudges against Wasps and I wish that we were anywhere near their level of achievement and backing, neither are they hammering the stake through our hearts, our owners are doing that and beware because they think we could be heading in a downwards spiral. Who would have guessed?

 

[Joy Division]

Yeah its a right mess for Wasps, I wonder if they regret buying the Ricoh? top of the Premiership, later stages of European cup, several lifetimes lease of stadium, near capacity crowds

They are averaging about 15,000 for a top premiership, later stages of the European cup team, not near capacity crowds. And still giving out loads of freebies.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

i'd love nothing more than for the stripey c**t franchise to fail, bondholders to lose their cash & then the ricoh become available for a song in a fire sale.....

...but even if all that happened, surely we all know that sisu would still manage to royally fuck up their opportunity anyhow....

As a club, we need to be rid of sisu first & then getting rid of wasps would be a sweet bonus.

 

[italiahorse]

I thought CCFC were off the radar and insignificant?

Lets say CCFC are on the radar as a negative to business.
Until they are sorted that will remain the case.

 

[fernandopartridge]

You are quite literally insane.

I assume you have no arguments about any of the points raised and that's why you resort to pathetic insults about someone's job 20 years ago.

I'd explain things like why the council built a swimming pool after massive public outcry to you, but I'm not sure I have enough crayons.

Can you explain how the council's value for money comparison between Fairfax St and the Higgs Centre worked? I read the report but it sounded like bollocks.

I can't remember a public outcry for an Olympic pool on Allard Way tbf.

I won't make any further comments about your father as it's unfair and only a wind up anyway.

 

[italiahorse]

They are averaging about 15,000 for a top premiership, later stages of the European cup team, not near capacity crowds. And still giving out loads of freebies.

Not bad for only being here 2 years though ?
We need to get through this and get a deal with them. It's a win win for both teams.