How do we get out of this mess (2 Viewers)

SkyblueBri

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Back to football rather than the agro, does anyone see any way we can get out of the position we are in at bottom of the table?

People say we've got a game in hand but we've not:

20th Swindon played 29 points 29
30th Port Vale played 28 points 32
US played 29 points 21

New defence no better than old defence.
New forward line worse than old one, come back Sordell all is forgiven.

I think I'm now resigned to relegation, can someone give me some hope and tell me where I'm wrong?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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Back to football rather than the agro, does anyone see any way we can get out of the position we are in at bottom of the table?

People say we've got a game in hand but we've not:

20th Swindon played 29 points 29
30th Port Vale played 28 points 32
US played 29 points 21

New defence no better than old defence.
New forward line worse than old one, come back Sordell all is forgiven.

I think I'm now resigned to relegation, can someone give me some hope and tell me where I'm wrong?


We are down just give up like me
 

Otis

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Back to football rather than the agro, does anyone see any way we can get out of the position we are in at bottom of the table?

People say we've got a game in hand but we've not:

20th Swindon played 29 points 29
30th Port Vale played 28 points 32
US played 29 points 21

New defence no better than old defence.
New forward line worse than old one, come back Sordell all is forgiven.

I think I'm now resigned to relegation, can someone give me some hope and tell me where I'm wrong?
Nope. You're not.

Our only hope is that of other teams failing very, very badly and those around us are clearly not.
 

Otis

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Nope. You're not.

Our only hope is that of other teams failing very, very badly and those around us are clearly not.
Chesterfield have picked up 4 points out of the last 4 games.

Bury have picked up 5 points out of the last 4 games.

Oldham have picked up 6 points out of the last 4 games

Swindon have picked up 4 points out of the last 4 games

Shrewsbury have picked up 10 points out of the last 4 games.

Only Port Vale have been really failing badly.

We have picked up 0 points out of the last 4 games.


Tells you how monumental our task is. It is not just about our winning say 3 games in row, we need that in combination of those around us failing completely and it simply isn't happening.

We have games coming up against those around us and we simply have to beat every single one of those before we even start.

In tandem with that, we are 8 points adrift, so would probably need to win 4 or 5 in a row to even be close to the teams above.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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I think we are relegated now. If you calculate the number of games we have to win, it's almost impossible. Draws are no good to us at this stage.
 

Captain Dart

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Nope. You're not.

Our only hope is that of other teams failing very, very badly and those around us are clearly not.
The good news is that there is a team falling away badly, The bad news is that it's us.
 

Hobo

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Well we haven't got here overnight, so there is no quick fix. We need to work within our means, decide what type of football we want to play and realise it will take at least three years to build a half decent team.

Accept there will be setbacks and stop knee jerking every 5 minutes. We need to cultivate a positive attitude about the club and show some ambition, even if it is a long-term plan. Not selling at the first opportunity would help and was at least a small positive in the January window.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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We're down.

I lived through many of the Great Escapes, but those teams had fight and grit. This group of players doesn't. They almost exclusively have defeat ingrained in them.

My biggest worry isn't this season. It's next. I'm convinced we'll be fighting to retain Football League status this time next year.

The bit you have wrong is fighting we will limply go down again.
 

ollyservetta

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I honestly believe if we had cov utd or spinx:s players for a match we would see more effort and passion than the current team ,
 

shmmeee

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Well we haven't got here overnight, so there is no quick fix. We need to work within our means, decide what type of football we want to play and realise it will take at least three years to build a half decent team.

Accept there will be setbacks and stop knee jerking every 5 minutes. We need to cultivate a positive attitude about the club and show some ambition, even if it is a long-term plan. Not selling at the first opportunity would help and was at least a small positive in the January window.

Agree with all of this. You won't get anything in the second paragraph without new owners though, trust has gone, people will assume the worst.

Whoever owns us next needs to come out with a complete vision for the club. 2 year, 5 year and 10 year plans. Vision for the identity of the club. Ironically it wouldn't be too different from what Sisu stated in that New Year's letter a couple of years ago: embedded in the community, focus on the academy, etc. Clarity about the level of budget we can afford and what needs to be done to make us sustainable without just shouting at fans for not turning up, etc.

We have the advantage of being a fairly big club in a one team city. Personally I'd like to see us aim to bring in backroom staff with a focus on player improvement and playing decent football. Aim to be the place where clubs want to send their kids on loan and be selective about who we bring in. Blood the kids where we can and supplement with hard working adults elsewhere on the pitch signed on frees. Spend any money on potential from leagues below us.

Basically a cut price Arsenal.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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I agree but you have to the correct people in place otherwise you end up keeping rubbish.
 

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