covboy1987
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Live game on tele - Pitch looks fantastic
They share it with Ospreys rugger
wonder why ours is so bad
They share it with Ospreys rugger
wonder why ours is so bad
Swansea Pitch (11 Viewers)
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Leamington Pete
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More likely than not it will be down to the use of lighting rigs to stimulate grass growth. Clubs who have money to throw at these things use them all the time and have a near perfect surface for most of the season.
shmmeee
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Wasn't there a photo of exactly this at the Ricoh the other day?
italiahorse
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.... because we don't contribute perhaps ?
Wasps do use lighting rigs though I notice when I drive past.
Terry Gibson's perm
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Why should we as we are the tenants we pay an agreed rent and that's it.
Terry Gibson's perm
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Looks like there is a load of shit in blue out there.
fernandopartridge
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Wasps are the heading towards being the greatest club in Europe or whatever the latest line is
Terry Gibson's perm
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The universe
italiahorse
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Agree. But £100K covers very little for 50% of pitch use.
italiahorse
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... and we are heading towards extinction.
One compensates for the other for me.
stupot07
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We also pay match day costs, which will contain an element towards pitch maintenance, along with utilities, cleaning, security, etc. Funny how people conveniently forget the matchday costs.
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Terry Gibson's perm
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That's not ccfc fault if they are offered a deal at 100k they are not going to offer to pay more are they.
stupot07
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Come on, its the clubs fault that Wasps owned and maintained sports pitch is in a poor condition. Fact. No point arguing it.
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westofrayne
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The pitch is a disgrace.
Due to the type of sports being played it will need replacing every year, last summer it was covered for concerts, loosing valuable growing/repairtime.
Although it looked ok in August, it hadn't fully recovered from last season. the dry warm autumn didn't help as when the weather changed quickly to cold, grass stopped growing, grass does not grow very well below 12 degrees.
The lighting rigs need to be used as soon as grass growth slows down, whenever the pitch is not in use, I'm assuming this didn't happen.
Wasps employed a company to advise them on the pitch, assuming they followed the advice, I would suggest they go back for a refund.
Pitches take a lot of maintenance which is costly, what have wasps paid out in terms of groundsman cost and materials/machinary? Has this been cut back from what the consultants have recommended? if yes then there's your problem. if not consultants are partly to blame.
another factor is the length of the grass, to me the pitch is cut too short, doing this causes problems during the winter periods.
someone said it needs rolling, this is one of the worse things you can do, compressing the top soil reduces root grow, meaning less grass. once the pitch gets to the state the ricoh is in now, the is very little you can do other than spike, drag, run the lights 24/7 and pray for warm weather.
I can go on and on about pitches and surfaces, I have built 5 pitches in my time from a cow fields and maintained them over an 8 year period. it takes a lot of hard work
Wasps have failed in their duty of providing an fit for purpose surface as part of the rental agreement.
Due to the type of sports being played it will need replacing every year, last summer it was covered for concerts, loosing valuable growing/repairtime.
Although it looked ok in August, it hadn't fully recovered from last season. the dry warm autumn didn't help as when the weather changed quickly to cold, grass stopped growing, grass does not grow very well below 12 degrees.
The lighting rigs need to be used as soon as grass growth slows down, whenever the pitch is not in use, I'm assuming this didn't happen.
Wasps employed a company to advise them on the pitch, assuming they followed the advice, I would suggest they go back for a refund.
Pitches take a lot of maintenance which is costly, what have wasps paid out in terms of groundsman cost and materials/machinary? Has this been cut back from what the consultants have recommended? if yes then there's your problem. if not consultants are partly to blame.
another factor is the length of the grass, to me the pitch is cut too short, doing this causes problems during the winter periods.
someone said it needs rolling, this is one of the worse things you can do, compressing the top soil reduces root grow, meaning less grass. once the pitch gets to the state the ricoh is in now, the is very little you can do other than spike, drag, run the lights 24/7 and pray for warm weather.
I can go on and on about pitches and surfaces, I have built 5 pitches in my time from a cow fields and maintained them over an 8 year period. it takes a lot of hard work
Wasps have failed in their duty of providing an fit for purpose surface as part of the rental agreement.
fernandopartridge
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Only for a simpleton like you
italiahorse
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No it's the fans, the Wasps and now the grass that makes us so crap.
Nothing to do with under investment in the playing staff.
italiahorse
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A simpleton would make a comment like yours, surely ?
Are all people that watch rugby simpletons in your small mind ?
Moff
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Get over yourself, anything to defend Wasps. The pitch is crap end of.
Wasps charge us a rent we pay it. The pitch is still crap.
Swansea's pitch isn't crap. Our pitch is still crap.
Wasps bloody own the freehold its their responsibility, and the pitch is crap.
You try to deflect the blame from Wasps. The pitch is still crap.
(Don't try to muddy the waters by talking about anything but the pitch, its crap)
italiahorse
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Never said it wasn't crap ??
Just informing previous poster that we do use lighting rigs.
You've missed the point again.
olderskyblue
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I guess highfield road was perfect all year round, every year then?
Moff
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Coming from you and the dog abuse you get when you just trot out the usual banal Wasps defence is very rich. Its a tired old line of deflection as you constantly trawl out the same balls.
What is your point? apart from taking a sensible discussion off topic.
Its Wasp's responsibility and its crap. Deal with it. You've missed the point again.
Nice to know you are now Wasp's....'we do use lighting rigs' Paid up spokesman now are we?
fernandopartridge
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You are a simpleton.
I didn't see a post from you after Tuesday night, must really hurt you to see CCFC grabbing the headlines and confirming once again that it is number 1 sports team in Coventry.
stupot07
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No its the wasps fault the pitch is in a terrible state. Stay on topic, plenty of other threads about how shit we are and who's to blame. Nice attempt at diversion though.
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fernandopartridge
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The point was a comparison between two pitches used by two teams. The Ricoh pitch is in desperate condition compared to the Liberty one. Simple as that.
Causes could be many and may include poor maintenance by Wasps amongst others.
italiahorse
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I can take the abuse as I point out the fault is not wasps for where we find ourselves.
I see 'we' as CCFC/Wasps/Ricoh as I still feel the stadium is ours when we play on it.
The people that put these threads off topic are the ones that give abuse when someone gives a counter perspective.
Is there a hidden list that Nick has put out to some that says what people want to hear on this board?
Moff
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Fucking hell man get a grip. Is the pitch crap or not?
The Nick comment is pathetic. Grow up and stop being a childish prick. CAN YOU NOT KEEP SOMETHING ON TOPIC?
italiahorse
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So this is on topic ?
Why would a long standing CCFC season ticket holder want them to fail ?
You do know that you can support both CCFC and Wasps ?
On the subject, the pitch was the same for both teams and I only heard the away manager complain about it.
Moff
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No its not.
I do know you don't want the club to fail, but sometimes the way its written it could be misconstrued. (purely my opinion, I accept others may see it differently)
Yes sadly I accept some people will have such poor taste (joke)
The pitch is the same for both teams but is shocking. Surely it should be in a better state. It may be better for Rugby than football, but is very poor for football.
italiahorse
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The pitch was crap but it was the same for both teams.
I started on topic but because I put some reasoning into it my support of Wasps comes into it.
Calm down.
Moff
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The point was the pitch, and its state, compared to the Liberty stadium.
I am calm. I had to use capitals as you seemed to have missed the point old chap. Using expletives was a form of stress relief in a previous life, its not everyone's cup of tea but sometimes I find it most agreeable.
italiahorse
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Perhaps I'm watching to much rugby where most grass based pitches are a lot worse than the Ricoh.
Watched Cov Welsh at the weekend and that was a bad pitch.
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Moff
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Perhaps I'm watching to much rugby where most grass based pitches are a lot worse than the Ricoh.
Watched Cov Welsh at the weekend and that was a bad pitch.
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Without the stands it looks just like the Ricoh pitch. Now that pitch is ideal for Rugby!
italiahorse
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It's difficult to see the pitch from the posh seats. It just looks green.