So not a terrorist then (24 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

You mean "Guilty till proven innocent"

No, I mean our foreign policy is a disaster and I empathise with anyone caught in the middle of what's going in in the middle east who just wants to get on with their lives in peace.

 

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[Sky Blue Kid]

No, I mean our foreign policy is a disaster and I empathise with anyone caught in the middle of what's going in in the middle east who just wants to get on with their lives in peace.

I wonder what the ISIS foreign policy is:jawdrop:

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I wonder what the ISIS foreign policy is:jawdrop:

I suppose the argument would be that they are a bunch of terrorist and we're not???

 

[clint van damme]

I wonder what the ISIS foreign policy is:jawdrop:

they haven't got one, they're barbaric, but I think you can make a strong case for them being a by product of western foreign policy.
Again, I fell for law abiding citizen who gets caught up in their violence.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

What is a terrorist?

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

 

[wingy]

If you take the religion out of it what is the motivation?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

If you take the religion out of it what is the motivation?

In this particular instance, or in general?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

A considerable number of the ANC leaders are Communists… When the ANC says that they will target British companies, this shows what a typical terrorist organisation it is. I fought terrorism all my life… I will have nothing to do with any organisation that practises violence. I have never seen anyone from ANC or the PLO or the IRA and would not do so.

How much longer will the Prime Minister allow herself to be kicked in the face by this black terrorist? How much longer will the Government kneel at his feet, when he does nothing but abuse her?

The ANC and its leader Nelson Mandela have no more claim to be saints or heroes than do the Provisional IRA with their lynch mobs and car bombers.

Until 2008, Mandela was on the USA's terrorism watch list. 2008. He therefore needed special state clearance to enter the USA.

Now, that's not the view most have of Mandela now.

 

[rob9872]

Until 2008, Mandela was on the USA's terrorism watch list. 2008. He therefore needed special state clearance to enter the USA.

Now, that's not the view most have of Mandela now.

Very true - never reoffended, showing that prison can work

 

[wingy]

In this particular instance, or in general?

In general.

 

[Gazolba]

I can only give my own definition. Terrorism is a violent, criminal act done to induce terror in the general population and done for some political purpose.
A terrorist is someone who plans, supports or commits an act of terrorism and owes allegiance to some terrorist ideology or terrorist group.
Accidental bombing of civilians is not terrorism or a terrorist act by my definition.
Bear in mind that the targets of such attacks often deliberately move civilians near to them for propaganda purposes.

 

[covcity4life]

accidental bombing civillians? or not caring enough about them to cancel bombings?

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

accidental bombing civillians? or not caring enough about them to cancel bombings?

Accidental "Ploughing down and knifing anything in the way"..... or "Not caring who gets killed/maimed/hurt?

 

[covcity4life]

Accidental "Ploughing down and knifing anything in the way"..... or "Not caring who gets killed/maimed/hurt?

who on earth called Westminster accidental in the first place?

you are the only one trying to diminish innocent lives lost

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

who on earth called Westminster accidental in the first place?

you are the only one trying to diminish innocent lives lost

Strange you only complain about British/American attacks(Unconfirmed)
If you'd care to research, Iraqi SF asked for Drone cover. It was given under Iraqi intelligence...... The way some people talk, the only ever aggressors in the world have been British and American. Who protected Britain from the Romans, Vikings, Normans, French, Spanish, the list goes on.

As for "trying to diminish innocent lives lost[/QUOTE]"..... I'm waiting for confirmation of a deliberate act on behalf of the coalition before apportioning blame. Is there any need to wait for confirmation on the deliberate murder of innocent lives in London?

 

[covcity4life]

how do i ONLY complain about british american attacks? i was one of the first to condemn evil in the westminister thread.

you are showing you only see it from 1 side. i see humans as the same, something you cannot seem to comprehend.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

how do i ONLY complain about british american attacks? i was one of the first to condemn evil in the westminister thread.

you are showing you only see it from 1 side. i see humans as the same, something you cannot seem to comprehend.

I comprehend the difference between Pre meditated Murder, and accident.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

So freedom fighters in the UK that murder innocent people is alright with you then???

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So freedom fighters in the UK that murder innocent people is alright with you then???

I made no value judgement, you tool. I merely remarked on different perceptions by different people in response to a general question, asking 'what is a terrorist?'

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

[QUOTE="covcity4life, post: 1303096, member: 1401"]accidental bombing civillians? or not caring enough about them to cancel bombings?[/QUOTE]

You make it sound like deliberate killing of civillians.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

I made no value judgement, you tool. I merely remarked on different perceptions by different people.

The biggest TOOL is you for making that statement.

 

[covcity4life]

you don't understand the saying "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter?"

LOOOL

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The biggest TOOL is you for making that statement.

You really are a massive twat at times.

 

[clint van damme]

I comprehend the difference between Pre meditated Murder, and accident.

I'm sure the Luf

[QUOTE="covcity4life, post: 1303096, member: 1401"]accidental bombing civillians? or not caring enough about them to cancel bombings?

You make it sound like deliberate killing of civillians.[/QUOTE]

what do you think's going to happen when you drop bombs?

 

[Grendel]

you don't understand the saying "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter?"

LOOOL

It's a fairly lazy sixth form type of label people use for Stalinist murderers such as Castro and his sidekick with a beret

 

[clint van damme]

It's a fairly lazy sixth form type of label people use for Stalinist murderers such as Castro and his sidekick with a beret

But it's true. There will be people who see that clown in London the other day as some sort of freedom fighter.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It's a fairly lazy sixth form type of label people use for Stalinist murderers such as Castro and his sidekick with a beret

Simplistic maybe. Don't get me wrong in any way. The act was monstrous and absolutely cold blooded murder by an individual who'd normed somehow driving his car at high speed at fellow human beings. But the immediate link from our nationalistic media to portray him as a foot soldier of Isis I think seems unnecessary and too early to say.

What was his aim? Motivation if you will? The reason I ask is that some aims appear worthy and to be supported, others not so much.

United Ireland
Suppression of freedom
Women votes
Apartheid
Yoke of empire - removal of occupying forces
War

Think his mum and daughter have been courageous to speak out in the way they have

 

[covcity4life]

of course it is true. In india 2 Sikhs assasinated indra gandhi after she ordered attack on the golden temple. They are seen as heroes to many in sikh community whilst hindus hated them so much they commited genocide over it in 1984.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It's a fairly lazy sixth form type of label people use for Stalinist murderers such as Castro and his sidekick with a beret

Bololocks is it.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

But it's true. There will be people who see that clown in London the other day as some sort of freedom fighter.

And billions around the world will see him as a cold blooded murderer!

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

You really are a massive twat at times.

Shouldn't open you legs too wide... were getting an echo.

 

[Nick]

Shouldn't open you legs too wide... were getting an echo.

Has the echo stopped?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Think his mum and daughter have been courageous to speak out in the way they have

Is it courageous? Surely it's the only thing they can do?

 

[covcity4life]

And billions around the world will see him as a cold blooded murderer!

Exactly right!!!

This proving one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter!

Glad we got there in the end.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Has the echo stopped?

Nope just started again.