Eastwood - worth at least a sub spot v Derby (7 Viewers)

SkyBlueScottie

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To Sky Blue fans, who believe he should be a given a chance. Why should he play ahead of players who have turned up, got fit, acted like professionals, are a member of the squad, and not disrespected our club, badge, management and fans? Because by not getting fit, basically not achieving the minimal level required of a pro footballer Eastwood has done the club us management and more importantly himself a major disservice.
 

speedie87

Well-Known Member
to be fair to Eastwood he has picked up 2 calf injuries which kept him out for a month at a time.

(admittedly if he was fitter he probably wouldn't have picked them up).

as for why i'd give him a chance...........picture being 1 down for 10mins to go and you need a goal to stay up..........you can throw on, ROD, Jeffers or Freddie............i know who i'd fancy to put the chance away out of those.
 

ricohroar

Well-Known Member
erm because he's better lol, If we had the best behaved 11 playing week in week out I'm sure we'd be a great team, we are in need of goals ROD, Cody Mc, Jeffers etc If your happy to go with ROD ahead of Eastwood because he's a good boy then thast your opinion but in mine he wont save us, not that any one can now, but ROD is shit and I'd go with a play who's better and may have issues than one thats clearly shit
 

ccfc4ever

New Member
And i always thought there were 2 sides to a story. Tbh if he plays i will support him & if he ended up scoring the goals that helped us stay up would we really care whats gone on the 1st half of the season.

Im not saying he will but look at the strikers we are pinning our hopes on atm
 

ricohroar

Well-Known Member
The thing I never understood about Eastwood's chances at City and how people say well he can only do it in the lower leagues. If you look at his goals on youtube that season he scored for fun, alot are penalties and free kicks out side the box. When was the last time he was allowed a free kick or penalty for the city???,
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
When was the last time he was allowed a free kick or penalty for the city???,

When was the last time he could be bothered to play for his shirt?

When was the last time he could be bothered to get fit enough?

When was the last time he acted like a pro and earned the money he is getting paid very well for?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
Not sure how many Eastwood threads this forum needs, but I think we're past repeating his poor goalscoring record, waste of huuge cash, poor atttitude, upsetting players because there is obviously a split between those like me who see this scrounging waste of oxygen gypsy for never being good enough and those who seem to worship him despite all of the above but quickly dismiss others of better character for reasons only known to them. Anyhow I look forward to posting this drivel on other FE threads between now and when he eventually feks off still having achieved nothing. HE has no respect for the fans and will laugh at us suffering in L1 whilst he sits in his luxury caravan.
 

ricohroar

Well-Known Member
"Not sure how many Eastwood threads this forum needs, but I think we're past repeating his poor goalscoring record, waste of huuge cash, poor atttitude, upsetting players because there is obviously a split between those like me who see this scrounging waste of oxygen gypsy for never being good enough and those who seem to worship him despite all of the above but quickly dismiss others of better character for reasons only known to them. Anyhow I look forward to posting this drivel on other FE threads between now and when he eventually feks off still having achieved nothing. HE has no respect for the fans and will laugh at us suffering in L1 whilst he sits in his luxury caravan."

Would you also prefer Jeffers ROD etc in-place of Marlon King because of his past record of being a bad boy???
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
Marlon king issue is different. He scored goals. Eastwood has not. He should be better than odonovan etc. But his record is dire.
I have never seen a player contribute so little get so much support. McCarthy Coleman boothoyd thorn have all failed to change his attitude. He is an embarrasment to himself. this season we needed all hands on deck and he stayed below choosing fast food over football.
 

andyboy81

New Member
Its fooking outrageous that the fat pikey b@stard is still at the club!

Can some explain the whole releasing rules.... If we release him, do we ONLY have to fully pay him his standard weekly wages or is he entitled to some kind of compensation on top? If it is purely wages, way not pay him off & bin him off once and for all as we would be paying this anyway!!

On a side note, Carl Bakers comments in the telegraph.... is that not a sign that he's starting to piss the rest of the squad off?? Fooking waster!! Can we not claim on any insurance on the basis that hes a fat fuck who cant run anymore due to his shankles????

I really am in a bad mood today.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
I don't understand why we can't sack him for gross misconduct. Surely if a footballer does not keep themselves in a healthy condition, then they are failing to do their job?
 

ricohroar

Well-Known Member
A striker would find it hard to score goals if

A) he is not playing football and
B) when he is he plays it out of position

as a striker Eastwood is the best we have at the minute, regaurdless of what he has or hasnt done, how bad his record is, its better than the alternative.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
A striker would find it hard to score goals if

A) he is not playing football and
B) when he is he plays it out of position

as a striker Eastwood is the best we have at the minute, regaurdless of what he has or hasnt done, how bad his record is, its better than the alternative.

You forgot to add;

c) when he doesn't train or make any tangible effort to improve

Forget it. Four managers can't be wrong. Play McSheffrey up front in a 4 5 1 if we have to. We cannot carry a passenger who will contribute zero to the side.

Remember - 141 games -- 20 goals.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
"Not sure how many Eastwood threads this forum needs, but I think we're past repeating his poor goalscoring record, waste of huuge cash, poor atttitude, upsetting players because there is obviously a split between those like me who see this scrounging waste of oxygen gypsy for never being good enough and those who seem to worship him despite all of the above but quickly dismiss others of better character for reasons only known to them. Anyhow I look forward to posting this drivel on other FE threads between now and when he eventually feks off still having achieved nothing. HE has no respect for the fans and will laugh at us suffering in L1 whilst he sits in his luxury caravan."

Would you also prefer Jeffers ROD etc in-place of Marlon King because of his past record of being a bad boy???

"He scores goals Marlon" - there lies the difference. I would welcome him back with open arms tomorrow despite the bad blood at the start of the season because he is one of the few who would have the quality to give us a chance of getting out of this mess. He has obvious quality FE is not in that category.

Also, when you're all taking a pop at our striking contingent, I'm not happy with what we have either. However that's not their fault. They are puting a shift in and that's why they remain in contention.
ROD sadly will never be good enough at this level. He has pace, he's a trier and he has finished at the league below but he seems to still lack in a couple of key departments. Better defenders with a bit of experience will handle him and thats why he is more capable at a level below (which is also true of Cody and Eastwood's records).
Cody Mac has had a poor start but was brought into a poor losing team and never hit the ground running. He has not had a pre-season and has little or no experience at this level. It takes time and he could still be ok despite showing nothing yet, but still very early to warrant the level of criticism he gets on here.
Platt does a job. Not outstanding, not a goalscorer but a team player and there are times when its right for him. He should rarely be first choice but that's a factor of the position we find ourselves in.
Finally Jefffers and this is the one that really irks me. This young lad has barely played. He's a local lad and a product of our youth team. The fact that in desperate times he is lumped in along with ROD as in this post above as poor alternative is so damaging for the lad. Why isn't he given time or afforded the chance to make mistakes? How much have you seen of him? He may never make the grade but City 'fans' who don't give them a chance really pissses me off as much as any bad board or manager.
 

ICHAN

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"He scores goals Marlon" - there lies the difference. I would welcome him back with open arms tomorrow despite the bad blood at the start of the season because he is one of the few who would have the quality to give us a chance of getting out of this mess. He has obvious quality FE is not in that category.

Also, when you're all taking a pop at our striking contingent, I'm not happy with what we have either. However that's not their fault. They are puting a shift in and that's why they remain in contention.
ROD sadly will never be good enough at this level. He has pace, he's a trier and he has finished at the league below but he seems to still lack in a couple of key departments. Better defenders with a bit of experience will handle him and thats why he is more capable at a level below (which is also true of Cody and Eastwood's records).
Cody Mac has had a poor start but was brought into a poor losing team and never hit the ground running. He has not had a pre-season and has little or no experience at this level. It takes time and he could still be ok despite showing nothing yet, but still very early to warrant the level of criticism he gets on here.
Platt does a job. Not outstanding, not a goalscorer but a team player and there are times when its right for him. He should rarely be first choice but that's a factor of the position we find ourselves in.
Finally Jefffers and this is the one that really irks me. This young lad has barely played. He's a local lad and a product of our youth team. The fact that in desperate times he is lumped in along with ROD as in this post above as poor alternative is so damaging for the lad. Why isn't he given time or afforded the chance to make mistakes? How much have you seen of him? He may never make the grade but City 'fans' who don't give them a chance really pissses me off as much as any bad board or manager.

Because for some reason Rob a small (I hope) contingent of fans expect players to hit the floor running and to be upto the grade of top class players for some reason, weather they are kids or new signings, then we wonder why some players never make it or lose the promise that they show.
 

lordsummerisle

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Marlon king issue is different. He scored goals.

That's why football and the countrry as a whole is in such a mess, expediency over character.

A footballer is morally wrong for not keeping fit, however a footballer who scores goals but beats up women can be forgiven.
 

stupot07

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I wasn't sure whether I should start another thread but just read bakers comments in the telegraph, which seem to back up the managers issues around fitness and weight, and the fact freddie needs resolve these on his own.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/co...y-eastwood-to-pull-his-weight-92746-30113649/

I'm not sure how many of you saw flintoff's programme about depression in sport the other night, but it got me wondering if Eastwood is suffering from depression and is struggling to battle is demons. If you didn't see it, it's well worth watching on iplayer - he talked about his own issues and also talked to harmison, Barry mcguigan, ricky hatton, greame dott, and a few others. Greame dott said he would be on anti-depressants for the rest of his life.
 

Nick

Administrator
I just think there is more to this.

We have SISU, they are trying to cut back on money and losses. If we have a player who was literally breaking the terms of his contract / not being able to do his job / refusing to do his job all of the time / causing upset then I would have thought they would have been very quick to terminate his contract as it will save them a good few grand a week. Look how quickly other teams manage to terminate contracts when things happen or they have been naughty, it is usually the next day as it is classed as Misconduct.

Thornton got done for drink driving I think and the next day he was sacked....

Now if Freddy was refusing to train, was too unfit because he was drinking too much, was refusing to basically do his job then he should be sacked. Why would SISU spend money they didn't need to?

We keep hearing he isn't fit, he isn't training etc but he still managed to play 90 minutes in a friendly where other players who have only been out for a few weeks could only last 60 or so?

Does he need to be as fit as a box to box midfielder? Baker has said he scores the most in training simply because of his touch and his finishing skills. Do you see Berbatov (yes a different class) running up and down like Rooney does?

I think just give Freddy a go, let him have a couple of starts or even sub appearances and if he fails then he fails.
 

rob9872

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That's why football and the countrry as a whole is in such a mess, expediency over character.

A footballer is morally wrong for not keeping fit, however a footballer who scores goals but beats up women can be forgiven.

I certainly didn't forgive him, but then I had nothing to forgive him for and we are not in a position to do so. We are to judge his ability as a footballer and for him to perform to the best of his ability for the money that we contribute to. He has a responsibility to remain in condition for that. This is a separate argument of course to the one on topic. There are many things which I wouldn't want associated with my team (McCormick or Hughes etc) but does that mean I have double standards? Probably. Am I a bit of a hypocrite? Probably. But I think we know that many of the crowd and probably some of the posters here are guilty of crimes similar if not worse to Marlon's. Should we refuse to sit next to them or have them banned from the forum? Look after yourself and your family, be happy that you're doing the right thing and let everyone else get on with theirs. Society is mainly scum, but it shouldn't interfere with our enjoyment of our football.
 
Baker tells Freddy to pull his weight!

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2012/01/13/carl-baker-time-for-freddy-eastwood-to-pull-his-weight-92746-30113649/

Fair play Baker, good to see a player speak his mind!
 

ICHAN

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He'll need a wheel barrow.

I just can not see why he should get a game.

He has proven himself since he has been here he is not interested, and is only here to pick up what money he can without having to work for it.
Other players are putting the effort and commitmment in to play first team football and be on the team sheet, so why should he just walk straight into the team, when he has shown total disrespect to the club and the fans.
All the managers who have been here or been his manager can not be wrong.
I could understand people thinking well ok lets give him a chance if he had been our 20 goal a season striker but this year he has just let himself down a bit, but he hasn't.

As for depression, I realise it is an awful thing to have but surely if this was the case it would have been noticed by now with him, idleness maybe.
I remember a Grevsie quote about stan collymore when he said depression, maybe he should try going to work for a living on minimum wage and try and keep a roof over his families head.
 

Paxman II

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I posted in a different thread about Freddie and maybe a lot of you missed it.

His fitness is a big problem for Thorn. he refuses to make the effort. Missing from the fitness camp he was sent to half the time and has come back still not fit. watch him when they come out running around pre-match....there's Freddie running across the pitch with A N Other and by the time A N Other reaches the other side Freddie is still half way across? What's wrong with the guy? He abuses his position and team mates want him gone.

Now as a goalscorer it's true to say fitness is not paramount is it? Can he get us a goal or two if given a go up front? Maybe but when your team mates don't like you, your back ground is a dislike and a disruptive influence around the place then you have to wonder...

That's allegedly the focus of the problem but I'm all ears if Mr Eastwood wishes to have this disputed and put us all right.
 

skyblueinBaku

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I have to admit that I have been in the 'FE is a waste of space' camp, but I'm beginning to think that maybe he should be given a chance. Not that he really deserves it, but because of the desperate position we are in. With Juke gone (and I wonder which of the Sisu spivs came up with the brilliant idea of selling him - Arthur Daley & Delboy would be proud of him) we need someone up front who can score goals.

FE is not fit, but if he managed to play 90 mins against Chesterfield, surely he can't be that far away from a reasonable level of fitness. Of course, playing in the Chesterfield game is nothing like playing in a Championship match, but I think he could manage 20 mins for us. This would show two things - his fitness level, and whether or not his attitude has improved.

AT said that he scores regularly in training. We are woefully short of goal scorers. Maybe he really can help us out.
 

smileycov

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Maybe he has realised that sitting in the stands and getting fat whilst being paid is not all it's cracked up to be. He may want to put a shift in, in our hour of need. to be honest if he plays again and rattles the goals in that help us out, i for one will forget all about the first half of the season.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
maybe he has realised his contract is up in 6 months ??????
 

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