Nick
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paranoia and once again this is why you have your reputation now.
It isn't paranoia though is it?
Is Silence Golden ? (1 Viewer)
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It isn't paranoia though is it?
Nick
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I haven't replied as I haven't seen it? What branding would you expect at a 5 a side type weekly thing?
I'm not personally insulted, I just don't get why people wade in saying "they dont do this" and then it changes to "oh, i didnt know about this" and they have actually seen it.
covcity4life
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yes it is. better pr and communication has been wanted from ccfc as a whole for 5 or 6 years now.
1 or 2 posters giving it anti sisu stuff would be a huge minority.
and once again we need to take a stepback and remember we are just a internet forum. as long as wider community benefits who cares about some internet posters?
1 or 2 posters giving it anti sisu stuff would be a huge minority.
and once again we need to take a stepback and remember we are just a internet forum. as long as wider community benefits who cares about some internet posters?
covcity4life
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no you jsut wade in and say they do this,recognise!
and when told how that thing isnt as good as you think and can be improved you say "i havnt seen it"
oh wait...same thing?!
one last time all the links show they do something, but from actual word of mouth i only hear about wasps so something tells me it is not enough.
Nick
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Things spread, it isn't just the internet. If anything, it's the chinese whispers that start on the internet and then go offline where theres no way to see context or more information that are worse.
Some people would welcome good PR as they should, don't try and say it would be "1 or 2 posters" on a forum banging on about desperation, just trying to sell season tickets etc though as it's quite obvious it wouldn't be.
Nick
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I haven't said they do or don't things at the thing you went to. I haven't said how good that one thing is either. I asked what branding did you want there?
Maybe you just know more people who are interested in Wasps? The only people I know who have mentioned them have never paid for a ticket for Wasps and their main selling point is that you can drink at your seat.
covcity4life
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so to sum up you are blaming fans for clubs poor pr and saying sbitc shouldnt try to improve because fans dont care about what they do?
bleak.
bleak.
Nick
Administrator
To sum it up, I think you haven't read the thread where I have said multiple times in this very thread their PR is shite and SBITC can always improve.
Read the thread properly.
covcity4life
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i agree, and they are milking that to get adults in with their kids.
rules mean no drink in stands but maybe ccfc could do a family deal where get food and kids get 1 drink each and adults 1 free beer each? just an idea
as for branding, they needed more ccfc stuff. other than the mitre footballs(which didnt all have ccfc on them) and the tracksuits that 1 of the instructers worse, there was nothing ccfc related. would have been nice to bring in a ex player or a coach(i know buust did it in past) but nothing like that happened on mine. no tickets to a game nothing. one week they gave everyone a water bottle which i still use so i think more stuff like that helps build a brand myself.
covcity4life
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no you learn to stop twisting
you have come in trying to defend sbitc when noone had a go at them in the first place. you have been presented with examples and ideas to improve but your only retort is to say people are sticking boot in or ignoring what sbitc already do
you have been too blatant for too long and now people are starting to see through you.
fernandopartridge
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In fairness, the club not contributing to SBiTC is shocking.
Nick
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Ah, you are trying to go down the "people see through you line". It isn't twisting anything, twisting would be your previous post.
Learn to read.
I have said their PR is shit, but it isn't an easy task and gave examples why for both sbitc and CCFC.
I have said they can always improve, there is plenty they can do and on other threads lots of examples what I would do.
I have said people do ignore what they do and they don't get enough credit for what they do currently. I pointed out that people say they don't know things but have read threads on here about them. (Again, to clarify. People on here, not people with no internet etc).
Again, just fishing for likes but still struggling with the reading and comprehension part. You have already tried the defending SISU line. It is nearly as bad as Tony trying to argue about me saying Joy's statement was shite.
Nick
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If they physically can't hand cash over they should be using the brand to fundraise a lot more.
covcity4life
Well-Known Member
you defend sisu as you defend ccfc. to you they are the same. its loyalty in your opinion. doesnt bother me.
but you keep waffling on and all you are really saying is
"yes i agree with your points cc4life andi see you have agreed with some of mine but i cant let it go like that so i am going to keep arguing with you even though i no longer know what we are arguing about as in every post i agree with you,so i will just say learn to read"
covcity4life
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Nick
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So now you are trying to tell me what my opinion is?
Again, read any of my threads and you will see me say I can quite clearly differentiate. So yes, saying learn to read is quite valid isn't it?
covcity4life
Well-Known Member
blah blah blah
you have agreed with most of my points. you have nothing left to say other than "everyone hates the poor sbitc".
stop typing
you have agreed with most of my points. you have nothing left to say other than "everyone hates the poor sbitc".
stop typing
Nick
Administrator
Stop typing, why? Is it too much to try and read and understand?
Still, when "defending SISU" doesn't work you need something to fall back on. Lazy.
To sum it up in simple bullet points for you:
- The PR of CCFC is awful, no idea what marketing people do but the public facing ones have a tough job
- A lot more could be done in the community
- SBITC don't really get enough recognition for what they currently do
italiahorse
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They are just going through the motions of running a football club. Even Bigi was still on loan on the web site last time I could be bothered to look.
Disabled treatment is poor. I could list dozens of incidents that they go through.
I've even offered to be a point of communication for disabled into the club and when I get an email in response nothing gets followed up.
Esoterica
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I'm not sure you've thought that through - you won't get as much revenue from them because they need wider parking spaces.
covcity4life
Well-Known Member
when did i call you a sisu lover???? everyone has called you up on it now(even neutrals like hill) so is it fishing for likes or just stating truth(if i did indeed even do it). you are ultra defensive about anythign vs owners because for you it is vs ccfc. that is how you think do not deny it.
as for your bullet points i agree with them all.
only thing i would add is maybe its not all down to pr and the actualy courses could be improved to really pull in new fans.
Nick
Administrator
I agree, this is where reading things comes in. I'm not disabled but can see that side of it is shite and again not something that's too complicated to fix.
Brylowes
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Yet not at all surprising.
Nick
Administrator
This is about SBITC? So I'm not sure why you are banging on about defending SISU. Unless of course you see me sticking up for SBITC and the JSBS as defending SISU? It's a lazy line reeled out when you haven't got a clue what else to say.
I am saying CCFC's PR is poor for starters... I have made multiple posts in this thread about how things at CCFC themselves are poor.
Again, you are either wumming or just failing to read and understand things. Not sure why you are trying to tell me how I think or my opinion when you struggle with the basics of your own so much.
covcity4life
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wumming indeed. bring up sisu then say why are you hammering ona bout sisu lol
doyou disagree with this bit,a simple YES OR NO please:
as for your bullet points i agree with them all.
only thing i would add is maybe its not all down to pr and the actualy courses could be improved to really pull in new fans.
Nick
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covcity4life
Well-Known Member
when? 2 pages ago?????
i have mad numerous posts just about the topic and you keep going on about sisu
yes or no do you agree with me about the actual point?
i have mad numerous posts just about the topic and you keep going on about sisu
yes or no do you agree with me about the actual point?
Brylowes
Well-Known Member
TBH I wouldn't want the job of trying to paint this club in a good light, I think they realise it's beyond
That and people just won't be taken in, so it's head down and carry on regardless.
As they say 'You can't polish a Turd" :emoji_poop:
Nick
Administrator
No, I am going on about you keep giving it the defending SISU line... It really isn't hard to understand.
If you had managed to understand what people had typed posts and posts ago you would have seen me say things like things can be improved. That's what happens when you don't read things and links into my point about reading threads and then knowing nothing about them....
ie. When I said:
That kind of gives it away that:
- I think there is more that can be done.
- I have said a fair few times
- I have also posted ideas of improvements
It isn't hard to understand, still though I guess it's easier to try the defending SISU line rather than read what is actually there in text?
Nick
Administrator
Probably best off just pointing out that the PR is shit (which it is) and communication is awful etc. Then when some PR or communication comes out just moan about how it's to sell tickets.
covcity4life
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sisu sisu sisu,thats all you fucking type
everything on topic you agree with me,so it shows what a wum you are to keep trying to argue.
just be honest,you hate sbitc not being seen as perfect, you came on giving it the big un about posts and tweets to what they had done and when given real life experiences of the courses you didnt know what to say and just keep going ona bout sisu or learn to read.
just stop typing, nothing more to be said about the sbitc. they are good but improvement needed and not just in terms of pr/marketing. we are in a war with wasps and word of mouth IN MY OPINION is in their favour.
the end.
everything on topic you agree with me,so it shows what a wum you are to keep trying to argue.
just be honest,you hate sbitc not being seen as perfect, you came on giving it the big un about posts and tweets to what they had done and when given real life experiences of the courses you didnt know what to say and just keep going ona bout sisu or learn to read.
just stop typing, nothing more to be said about the sbitc. they are good but improvement needed and not just in terms of pr/marketing. we are in a war with wasps and word of mouth IN MY OPINION is in their favour.
the end.
Brylowes
Well-Known Member
But how could the PR be good, what could anyone say or do that would improve the
Image of the club.
Nick
Administrator
Why are you trying to tell me what I think? You clearly haven't got a clue as you can't read basic posts.
So you can't reply about why you said I was defending them by talking about SBITC then, you brought it up? As you can read my mind, you will see I don't think they belong in the same sentence, the same as the JSB volunteers.
I wouldn't say learn to read if you had actually read what had been written, rather than what you imagined had.
Nick
Administrator
It depends who it's aimed at. If people are going to be outraged at the cheek of a letter from Mark Robins then they are pointless.
Still plenty of others to be targetted. It won't be easy at all, but still do-able.
Brylowes
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Well I would imagine it would be aimed at supporters of the club, so with all that's going on
At the club 'how would you even begin to show it in a positive light.