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[Nick]

So I am meant to reply to "No fucking argument so you bang on about some random shit.

Did I say Wasps were going bankrupt. No. Just pointing out a few facts, and you bitch like a baby as you cant answer." ?

Is this you, Nick, in another log in, as it's not exactly intellectual stuff....in fact half readable!

As for the £10m, he put in at least £10m the year before, and as I said, he's not a "money is no object" / ultra rich owner like Saracens et. al.

So still, your reply is "is this you with another login".

I said point out where so many people think wasps are going bankrupt and ccfc will get the stadium for free? Which was actually completely unrelated to the points anyway.

You have now said I edited the post, banged on about Trump and his hair and now going on about 2 posters being the same person but you haven't pointed out where any of that crap is you spouted?

 

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[St Nicholas Street]

Read through this forum Nick - not just the "Wasps" section. Most are deluded about the future

 

[Nick]

Read through this forum Nick - not just the "Wasps" section. Most are deluded about the future

That doesn't answer the question does it.

You have said it's full of people who get wet dreams and genuinely believe about wasps going bankrupt and ccfc getting given the stadium.

Point them out. It shouldn't be too hard for you if it's "full".

Whether people on here agree about CCFC stuff or not, this place is full of CCFC fans who have supported CCFC for years through thick and thin. It's not really comparable to people from Coventry who are gloating about an out of town sports team doing well who they couldn't give a fuck about 5 years ago.

 

[St Nicholas Street]

It's not just you lot, looking at "Drunken Wasps" and similar forums - it's Wasps supporters and management looking at this forum, which doesn't aid mutually beneficial and cozy relationships, going forward, given all the negativity!

 

[St Nicholas Street]

"Point them out" - grow up!

 

[Nick]

It's not just you lot, looking at "Drunken Wasps" and similar forums - it's Wasps supporters and management looking at this forum, which doesn't aid mutually beneficial and cozy relationships, going forward, given all the negativity!

Who gives a fuck if Wasps management look at this forum? They have tried to post on here, their bullshit didn't get swallowed either.

What's your point? It's a CCFC fans forum, why would anybody care.

Are you going to point all of the posts out or not?

 

[Nick]

"Point them out" - grow up!

It's a perfectly valid question, it's also showing you up as talking bullshit.

You will just keep going on about other random shit. It's people like you who have jumped on the bandwagon and act all high and mighty who make people dislike Wasps, it's a bit like when you get Man Utd / Liverpool fans. Not the actual lifelong Wasps fans who have been and will be there through thick and thin.

 

[Moff]

So I am meant to reply to "No fucking argument so you bang on about some random shit.

Did I say Wasps were going bankrupt. No. Just pointing out a few facts, and you bitch like a baby as you cant answer." ?

Is this you, Nick, in another log in, as it's not exactly intellectual stuff....in fact half readable!

As for the £10m, he put in at least £10m the year before, and as I said, he's not a "money is no object" / ultra rich owner like Saracens et. al.

My post was so half readable you copied it verbatim. I suppose you aren't quite clever enough to use the quote facility.
Not clever enough to answer my original questions though. Perhaps you aren't bright enough?

The ten million Richardson took out is the ten million he put in the previous year. Sadly if you struggle with your maths which is quite clear, it means his investment for the previous year was paid back. As he has taken his ten million out, it still means Wasps have a ten million shortfall in their bond money to find, something you seem to keep avoiding.

At least try and get some facts correct when you post.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

They shouldn't be here. They are only here for financial reasons. Primarily lining the owners pockets. If he cared so much about Wasps, why did he take the 10 million out? Why are they quoted as saying 'real eestate with a rugby club attached to it'? They are a London club. They should go back there. Other rugby fans don't approve, so the notion that rugby is different and it's acceptable isn't true either.

Everyone involved in their move and defending it should hang their heads in shame, particuarly if they were upset at our move to Northampton. Crazy how we have people mentioning boycotting CCFC games but not encouraging others to boycott Wasps. I hope and believe CRFC could get promotion next season, we as a city need to fully get behind them. Would also be nice if Leicester and Northampton fans didn't attend the Ricoh and attended BPA instead?

 

[italiahorse]

This is getting tedious.
Wasp are going nowhere and the sooner Sisu and others realise that we can start to build bridges.
Yes we lost the stadium in reality before Sisu got here but it's all done now and we need to make the best of it.
If you don't want to join in Wasps current success then fair enough but let their fans get on with it without insults.
Eventually we will need to work with Wasps to survive but currently we seem to think there is an alternative.

 

[Nick]

This is getting tedious.
Wasp are going nowhere and the sooner Sisu and others realise that we can start to build bridges.
Yes we lost the stadium in reality before Sisu got here but it's all done now and we need to make the best of it.
If you don't want to join in Wasps current success then fair enough but let their fans get on with it without insults.
Eventually we will need to work with Wasps to survive but currently we seem to think there is an alternative.

That's still completely unrelated to the points.

Just saying the same thing over and over doesn't make it a reply to what's being said, that's the actual tedious bit.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

They may not be going anywhere. It doesn't stop people from thinking and wanting them to go. Not sure why any CCFC fan are happy for us to play second fiddle to London rugby team? Whether you like it or not Italia, Wasps need us more than we need them. If they are such a big global brand with such huge appeal, where is the stadium sponsorship? If we're not important, why does it appear sponsorship is being held up as we haven't signed a long term deal? Would that not indicate that we're actually the attraction? So we lost the stadium before SISU? So is it their fault or not? I'm struggling to keep up.
I don't think we need to work with Wasps, I believe there is an alternative, albeit without SISU and a financial input required. I'm not in to the idea of CCFC now being used to prop up Wasps like they did with ACL. Look at the thanks we got for that.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Wasp are going nowhere

They may or may not.

You saying this makes it no more likely or unlikely then people saying Wasps are set to go pop.

 

[Covstu]

They may not be going anywhere. It doesn't stop people from thinking and wanting them to go. Not sure why any CCFC fan are happy for us to play second fiddle to London rugby team? Whether you like it or not Italia, Wasps need us more than we need them. If they are such a big global brand with such huge appeal, where is the stadium sponsorship? If we're not important, why does it appear sponsorship is being held up as we haven't signed a long term deal? Would that not indicate that we're actually the attraction? So we lost the stadium before SISU? So is it their fault or not? I'm struggling to keep up.
I don't think we need to work with Wasps, I believe there is an alternative, albeit without SISU and a financial input required. I'm not in to the idea of CCFC now being used to prop up Wasps like they did with ACL. Look at the thanks we got for that.

as much as I would like to agree with you, I don't think this is true. We need the insects and access to the stadium unfortunately. Any other 'plan' has not materialised and therefore we have no information to state that this is likely to happen.
As for Wasps, I cannot stand them for the simple fact that they took advantage of the situation of our situation when we were on the floor (partly self made fault from our side admittedly).

 

[SkyBlueZack]

We need a stadium to play in. Somewhere to call home. Not being kicked out of our dressing room. Not being surrounded by Wasps advertising. Not having our badge dwarfed by theirs. Not having our flags on the roundabout but theirs. For the benefit of this cities sporting teams, we need away from Wasps.

 

[italiahorse]

That's still completely unrelated to the points.

Just saying the same thing over and over doesn't make it a reply to what's being said, that's the actual tedious bit.

It's a exactly related to the points.
In fact this whole Wasps section is CCFC fans criticising everything that happens at the Ricoh.
We should be working with them not against them.
It's exactly the reason we are here with fights against Higgs and CCC lost and now up against the ropes with Wasps.
Sisu along with a few on here need to change their thinking.

 

[italiahorse]

We need a stadium to play in. Somewhere to call home. Not being kicked out of our dressing room. Not being surrounded by Wasps advertising. Not having our badge dwarfed by theirs. Not having our flags on the roundabout but theirs. For the benefit of this cities sporting teams, we need away from Wasps.

FFS we can't afford it.
So what's plan B ?

 

[Moff]

It's a exactly related to the points.
In fact this whole Wasps section is CCFC fans criticising everything that happens at the Ricoh.
We should be working with them not against them.
It's exactly the reason we are here with fights against Higgs and CCC lost and now up against the ropes with Wasps.
Sisu along with a few on here need to change their thinking.

Your one of those that needs to change their thinking. This is a whole thread dedicated to Wasps and yet you are all over it like a rash to defend them. Its about wasps so why cant people talk about it. If you want to constantly bitch about SISU there are plenty of threads on that already.

You are incorrect to say that fans criticise everything that goes on at the Ricoh, for example (apart from your PR) Wasps have been commended for their PR and Community links.
You will also find that many people have never wished them go bust, which is something alleged by yourself and others. People would gladly see the back of them, but not bust.

Many posters raise valid factual pints about the Ricoh and Wasps situation. Perhaps some of these points need addressing, rather than you shouting them down like a one man Wasps PR machine. Its like the ostrich affect except your sand is you shouting everything down.

Yes SISU need to speak to Wasps to sort out the stadium deal, but that is a business deal not working with them. They are no better than SISU and we will wait to see what their long term future in the City is, as despite you saying contrary, as Northern Wisdom so eloquently put doesn't mean Wasps will go pop, or not.

 

[italiahorse]

Your one of those that needs to change their thinking. This is a whole thread dedicated to Wasps and yet you are all over it like a rash to defend them. Its about wasps so why cant people talk about it. If you want to constantly bitch about SISU there are plenty of threads on that already.

You are incorrect to say that fans criticise everything that goes on at the Ricoh, for example (apart from your PR) Wasps have been commended for their PR and Community links.
You will also find that many people have never wished them go bust, which is something alleged by yourself and others. People would gladly see the back of them, but not bust.

Many posters raise valid factual pints about the Ricoh and Wasps situation. Perhaps some of these points need addressing, rather than you shouting them down like a one man Wasps PR machine. Its like the ostrich affect except your sand is you shouting everything down.

Yes SISU need to speak to Wasps to sort out the stadium deal, but that is a business deal not working with them. They are no better than SISU and we will wait to see what their long term future in the City is, as despite you saying contrary, as Northern Wisdom so eloquently put doesn't mean Wasps will go pop, or not.

I rest my case.
That's post shows exactly the problem.
"Many posters raise valid factual points"
This whole Wasps section is a Slaggingfest.
Unfortunately our owners think the same.
They will never get the long term deal we require whilst the futile legal fight continues.

 

[Nick]

I rest my case.
That's post shows exactly the problem.
"Many posters raise valid factual points"
This whole Wasps section is a Slaggingfest.
Unfortunately our owners think the same.
They will never get the long term deal we require whilst the futile legal fight continues.

The thing is, you keep saying rest my case but you aren't proving anything or disproving what others are saying.

 

[Nick]

It's a exactly related to the points.
In fact this whole Wasps section is CCFC fans criticising everything that happens at the Ricoh.
We should be working with them not against them.
It's exactly the reason we are here with fights against Higgs and CCC lost and now up against the ropes with Wasps.
Sisu along with a few on here need to change their thinking.

No, because you aren't responding to any points being made. You are just randomly throwing unrelated stuff out to things that are being said.

By change their thinking is that change their super strong morals to suit and be a massive hypocrite? Or is it have a go at people for not backing SISU and then do a U turn sharpish.

It's almost like a repeat of history the way you go on about Wasps now.

 

[italiahorse]

The thing is, you keep saying rest my case but you aren't proving anything or disproving what others are saying.

But they are not saying anything. They are just slagging and insulting.
Just read through the Wasps stuff.
Nothing to disprove.

 

[italiahorse]

No, because you aren't responding to any points being made. You are just randomly throwing unrelated stuff out to things that are being said.

By change their thinking is that change their super strong morals to suit and be a massive hypocrite? Or is it have a go at people for not backing SISU and then do a U turn sharpish.

It's almost like a repeat of history the way you go on about Wasps now.

Sharpish = 5 years.
About turn = Northampton.
Love your line of thinking.

 

[Nick]

But they are not saying anything. They are just slagging and insulting.
Just read through the Wasps stuff.
Nothing to disprove.

You have said they have to move, you get links and things to say otherwise and just cry they are being slagged off and move onto the next points.

You try and change the subject to SISU and asking prices.

You throw things out, get replies and then say things like "You don't like rugby."

 

[Captain Dart]

They shouldn't be here. They are only here for financial reasons. Primarily lining the owners pockets.

Are you talking about SISU?

 

[SkyblueBazza]

Can't believe how the same people spout the same shit about the same subject on vitally every thread.

Yet they aren't interested in Rugby or Wasps...but can't stop posting about them.

Then they move on to bragging rights over who is the better 'real' supporter.

Ffs move on folks. WE can try every tactic in the book, but unless WE can afford to pay Wasps to move out -they're here to stay...& at the Ricoh.

We are just unfortunate that we have owners that over the time they have been here have lied to everyone, & formed the perception in many minds that they are virtually impossible to do business with.

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[italiahorse]

You have said they have to move, you get links and things to say otherwise and just cry they are being slagged off and move onto the next points.

You try and change the subject to SISU and asking prices.

You throw things out, get replies and then say things like "You don't like rugby."

Where have I said people don't like Rugby as an argument? Your confused.
I've seen nothing to disprove the move was the right thing to do, just loose comments from years ago.
My point is they are here to stay so get over it and work with them.
That's what people can't get.
It's the normal crap, we can't have it so why should they.
The trouble is Sisu are doing the same.

 

[Nick]

Where have I said people don't like Rugby as an argument? Your confused.
I've seen nothing to disprove the move was the right thing to do, just loose comments from years ago.
My point is they are here to stay so get over it and work with them.
That's what people can't get.
It's the normal crap, we can't have it so why should they.
The trouble is Sisu are doing the same.

You have said it in this thread.

You have said they had to move to Coventry to survive, you have been shown things saying otherwise.

Not a single person has said we can't have it why should they.

 

[italiahorse]

You have said it in this thread.

You have said they had to move to Coventry to survive, you have been shown things saying otherwise.

Not a single person has said we can't have it why should they.

Good grief your tedious.
I've answered your moronic questioning.
The point is they are here and established and if we have any sense we will work with them.
I would hazard a guess that if Sisu release the club the foundations of the football club will be firmly established at the Ricoh with a long term deal.

 

[Nick]

No, you haven't.

Your reply to people pointing out your shocking hypocrisy is to say how Wasps had to move here to survive. Then you get replies and then you start going on about how Wasps are getting abuse, they are here to stay and CCFC need to work with them. All points nobody has mentioned or questioned.

 

[Moff]

I rest my case.
That's post shows exactly the problem.
"Many posters raise valid factual points"
This whole Wasps section is a Slaggingfest.
Unfortunately our owners think the same.
They will never get the long term deal we require whilst the futile legal fight continues.

FFS so raising facts is actually a slag fest.
So when people raise facts about how useless SISU are, I take it you will be in there to defend the slagfest.
You are making yourself look an idiot. If you don't like it stop posting, and try raising your head from the sand.

 

[Moff]

Good grief your tedious.
I've answered your moronic questioning.
The point is they are here and established and if we have any sense we will work with them.
I would hazard a guess that if Sisu release the club the foundations of the football club will be firmly established at the Ricoh with a long term deal.

How you have the temerity to call another poster tedious is beyond me.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Can't believe how the same people spout the same shit about the same subject on vitally every thread.

Yet they aren't interested in Rugby or Wasps...but can't stop posting about them.

Then they move on to bragging rights over who is the better 'real' supporter.

Ffs move on folks. WE can try every tactic in the book, but unless WE can afford to pay Wasps to move out -they're here to stay...& at the Ricoh.

We are just unfortunate that we have owners that over the time they have been here have lied to everyone, & formed the perception in many minds that they are virtually impossible to do business with.

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It's a wasps thread you clown

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[Moff]

Can't believe how the same people spout the same shit about the same subject on vitally every thread.

Yet they aren't interested in Rugby or Wasps...but can't stop posting about them.

Then they move on to bragging rights over who is the better 'real' supporter.

Ffs move on folks. WE can try every tactic in the book, but unless WE can afford to pay Wasps to move out -they're here to stay...& at the Ricoh.

We are just unfortunate that we have owners that over the time they have been here have lied to everyone, & formed the perception in many minds that they are virtually impossible to do business with.

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I'm a long standing Rugby fan Bazza, a Northampton Saints fan, so Wasps move was of interest to me as the impinge on the locality of CRFC who I also follow, the Saints and the Tigers. I am obviously no fan of Wasps but am interested in the sustainability of their move and how it will work out as it may have a future impact on sports clubs and the possibility of franchising if it works, something I am not keen on.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

It's a wasps thread you clown

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It's a CCFC forum...clown's fall guy - have a custard pie

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