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torchomatic

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Is Dianne Abbott your next target? Don't worry you can come out with the truth about her.

Can't stand her. She should be nowhere near the shad cab or the home office.
 

torchomatic

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My other problem with Labour presently is who else do they have that could do a decent job?

There are loads. Yvette Cooper, Clive Lewis, Owen Smith....

For me the scariest thing is having fools like Fox, Davies and Johnson negotiating Brexit.
 

Grendel

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Each time he condemns *all* terrost acts.

I find it very bizarre that it appears a more positive thing to only condemn *some* of them!

Actually in the 80's he wasn't. He wasn't condemning them for anything and comrade McDonnell was wholly opposed to the peace process.

I've listed numerous things he's done to show his support for a violent struggle - not right wing press rhetoric actual facts.
 
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What did he actually say, what was the quote?

Putting his name to this in 1994 not good enough, it seems

This House notes that it is 20 years since the mass killings of 21 people in Birmingham as a result of terrorist violence; deplores that such an atrocity occurred and again extends its deepest sympathy to the relatives of those murdered and also to all those injured

Nor these answers

Q: Should the IRA’s acts of murder be condemned unequivocally?

A: Yes.

Q: Were the IRA terrorists?

A: Yes. The IRA clearly committed acts of terrorism.

Q: Mr McDonnell said last week that ‘no cause is worth an innocent life’. Do he and Mr Corbyn include within their definition of innocent life members of the Royal Ulster Constabulary and members of the Armed Forces, for example the 18 soldiers murdered at Warrenpoint in 1979?

A: Yes. All loss of life is tragic, as John McDonnell has said.

Q: Do Mr Corbyn and Mr McDonnell regard members of the Armed Forces and the IRA as ‘equivalent’ participants during the Troubles?

A: No.

Q: If they are unable unequivocally to condemn IRA terrorism, do they actually believe that the IRA campaign, or as they would put it ‘armed struggle’, was both justified and legitimate?

A: Jeremy has said that the he was opposed to the IRA’s armed campaign.

What's frightening, is he was dead right about Northern Ireland wasn't he - a political solution brought success, talking to all sides brought success.
 

clint van damme

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for some reason the right aren't so bothered about this fella meeting Irish republicans

FT5S-Gerry-Adams-Donald-Trump-Irish-Voice.jpg
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Corbyn has always been happy to praise them and refuses to ever say anything against them. Would you like to explain why you see that as PM material?

You can question May as much as you want. BTW do you think that I will be voting Tory? :rolleyes:

I don't but I want to see parity of coverage. How many times has he had to say 'I condemn all bombings' for you to believe he doesn't want Gerry Adams in Buckingham Palace?
 

Grendel

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Putting his name to this in 1994 not good enough, it seems



Nor these answers



What's frightening, is he was dead right about Northern Ireland wasn't he - a political solution brought success, talking to all sides brought success.

Odd if he was right why did he in the editorial of his far left magazine did he famously say the bullets and the bombs will reign down on the government? Why did he attend the evil Bobby sands funeral, why was he cautioned when attending a rally supporting the Brighton bomber Magee, why did he campaign for the rights of the notorious Burscombe gang? Why did McDonnell once attend a provisional rally alongside a convicted bomber who was on the run? Why did McDonnell say the death of 4 Tories was only a start, why did McDonnell say the IRA were heroes and why did he say his one regret was not assassinating thatcher?
 
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Odd if he was right why did he in the editorial of his far left magazine did he famously say the bullets and the bombs will reign down on the government? Why did he attend the evil Bobby sands funeral, why was he cautioned when attending a rally supporting the Brighton bomber Magee, why did he campaign for the rights of the notorious Burscombe gang? Why did McDonnell once attend a provisional rally alongside a convicted bomber who was on the run? Why did McDonnell say the death of 4 Tories was only a start, why did McDonnell say the IRA were heroes and why did he say his one regret was not assassinating thatcher?
You're a master of taking things out of context and distorting, along with not even responding to the original post!

Purple carrots.
 
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I don't but I want to see parity of coverage. How many times has he had to say 'I condemn all bombings' for you to believe he doesn't want Gerry Adams in Buckingham Palace?
It's absurd isn't it! Some bombings are clearly better than others...
 

Grendel

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Grendel

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It's absurd isn't it! Some bombings are clearly better than others...

They were - it's only now is he saying all bombing - in the 80's he said the bombs and bullets will come reigning down.
 

Grendel

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You're a master of taking things out of context and distorting, along with not even responding to the original post!

Purple carrots.

You can't answer fair enough.

Try at least one Bobby sands - why was Corbyn there?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Sadly after hiked corporation taxes, massively escalating interest rates and a hike in the minimum wage it may be out of business tomorrow.

The owner of Wetherspoons will probably institute a ban on all degree educated customers in any case.
 
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They were - it's only now is he saying all bombing - in the 80's he said the bombs and bullets will come reigning down.
...so a bit like the many threads that pop up on this board, saying if we get our approach wrong ref: extreme islam, there'll be masses of atrocities committed against this sceptred isle...
 

Astute

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You're a master of taking things out of context and distorting, along with not even responding to the original post!

Purple carrots.
Corbyn is getting defended by so many that I can't keep up. You would think that I am trying to get people to vote Tory or something. I have said that none of thwm are worth my vote. Yet I get more Tory digs.

A PM should not have a dodgy past. A PM shouldn't have a list of liea constantly brought up that they have said. A PM should be open to questioning. A PM should be confident but not take the piss. Name one present MP that should become the next PM. I can't think of one.
 

Grendel

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...so a bit like the many threads that pop up on this board, saying if we get our approach wrong ref: extreme islam, there'll be masses of atrocities committed against this sceptred isle...

Nope. Mr Corbyn in the 80's along with McDonnell were considered nut jobs. Galloway type nutters.

You can try and rewrite history all you want but the fact is they were pro IRA, openly supported violent a finite against the British government and its only as they find themselves where they are that they are attempting to change what they once were. They didn't want peace they wanted war and agreed with the approach of the IRA

McDonnell was appalled at the peace process
 
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Corbyn is getting defended by so many that I can't keep up. You would think that I am trying to get people to vote Tory or something. I have said that none of thwm are worth my vote. Yet I get more Tory digs.

A PM should not have a dodgy past. A PM shouldn't have a list of liea constantly brought up that they have said. A PM should be open to questioning. A PM should be confident but not take the piss. Name one present MP that should become the next PM. I can't think of one.
Hang on, I quote Grendel about twisting subjects... and you respond?!?

Not surprised that you struggle to see the many many times when Corbyn condemns all terrorism and loss of innocent life, then.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Yawn

Mr Corbyn supports terrorists actively opposed to a democratic country in the Middle East.

If you refer to Israel they are breaking all kinds of laws in Gaza and the West Bank and are trying to create an apartheid state.

Yawn even though we have had two attacks since the election was called , carried out by people with the same ideology as the Saudi criminals. Blood on our hands matters bugger all to you in Derry or Yemen alike it seems.
 

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