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Grendel

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Anyway seems Dianne Abbott is now not allowed to take part in campaigning - removed.
 

Astute

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You said Corbyn 'continues to praise' the IRA. Is this it?
That was one link. I said he refuses to......as.it goes fuck this. Vote Corbyn in. Top bloke. Just the person that thsia country needs. Dianne Abbott is a maths genius. The Lib Dems are brilliant. May has never done or said anything wrong.

You happy now I have said the opposite to before? I have much better things to do with my time.
 

Grendel

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Just don't reply to him. He spouts nonsense and thrives on the attention.

No I spout facts. If they aren't facts debate them. you can't. I'm still reeling from the Denmark drivel you spouted and then ran quickly when the questioning came.

I'd get a refund on your course - you are incredibly ignorant regarding all aspects of politics from what I can see.
 

Astute

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Hang on, I quote Grendel about twisting subjects... and you respond?!?

Not surprised that you struggle to see the many many times when Corbyn condemns all terrorism and loss of innocent life, then.
I blocked Grendel ages ago so can't see anything of what he posts :smuggrin:
 

Joy Division

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That was one link. I said he refuses to......as.it goes fuck this. Vote Corbyn in. Top bloke. Just the person that thsia country needs. Dianne Abbott is a maths genius. The Lib Dems are brilliant. May has never done or said anything wrong.

You happy now I have said the opposite to before? I have much better things to do with my time.

No you said he continues to praise. Yet you can't back it up.
 

Joy Division

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Corbyn has always been happy to praise them and refuses to ever say anything against them. Would you like to explain why you see that as PM material?

You can question May as much as you want. BTW do you think that I will be voting Tory? :rolleyes:
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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No I spout facts. If they aren't facts debate them. you can't. I'm still reeling from the Denmark drivel you spouted and then ran quickly when the questioning came.

I'd get a refund on your course - you are incredibly ignorant regarding all aspects of politics from what I can see.

You dismiss facts against you as trivial. May I ask what you would be saying if Corbyn had sold billions of pounds worth of weapons to Islamic extremists?

For all your slating of him, Galloway, McDonnell etc they were right on Blair's lies in Iraq. Had more listened to them then who knows how the world might look differently today.
 

Captain Dart

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I see Ms Abbott is stepping aside indefinitely, too much of a liability? If it is a Labour win watch for a swift recovery.

Regards.

U-turn to drop that hot potato.
 

clint van damme

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Would you call Jacob Zumma and Nelson Mandela brave, truth is their isn't much difference
Between the two, except one is close to home and one is far away.

is that a father Ted quote!

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Grendel

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Would you call Jacob Zumma and Nelson Mandela brave, truth is their isn't much difference
Between the two, except one is close to home and one is far away.

There is a mile of difference - Sinn Feinn had the ballot box - what a revolting and disrespectful thing to say
 

RegTheDonk

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If I am pissed off at the inevitable result tomorrow it will be because the government will ensure real terms cuts to my salary and worse working conditions.
It won't just be yourself in the public sector mate - the average joe working at Tescos, or Amazon, or any one of the big corporations or firms will still be paid the bare minimum they can get away with. Fair play if you run a small business and try to look after yourself and your family - but I'm under no illusion that big employers treat their staff as anything other than monkeys wallowing in their own shit.
When the tories win the left wing scum will be back out protesting in our citiies on Friday smashing windows assaulting police anyway
Just the way they like to do things they don't really want power they wouldn't know what to do !!
Very sweeping statement that - I'm sure you're not saying all people who consider themselves lefties are scum?
Anyway seems Dianne Abbott is now not allowed to take part in campaigning - removed.
Damage already done and there's plenty of stuff now on YouTube and in the rags to reinforce the message that she's an idiot. I'm pleased that a lot of people look past the masks of the people involved in this election (her, Boris, Corbyn, May) and will decide on the issues, but for many its all about the personalities and the image. I kind of think we might not even be having these discussions had they picked the other Milliband.

Think we've all made our minds up by now. Lets hope whoever wins we get a better, fairer for all country, that can hold its own out of the EU. We can't piss the europeans off, we need them to welcome us in a couple of years when City win the Prem under Robins :)
 

Brylowes

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Actually in the 80's he wasn't. He wasn't condemning them for anything and comrade McDonnell was wholly opposed to the peace process.

I've listed numerous things he's done to show his support for a violent struggle - not right wing press rhetoric actual facts.
Do you acknowledge a correlation in an increase in IRA activity in Northern Ireland and
Here between 1979 and 1992, would you agree there was a real momentum for peace
Resulting in the signing of the peace treaty.
If it wasn't for the likes of Corbyn, we would still have soldiers on the streets of NI and
Still living under the threat of attacks on the mainland,
FFS even the Rev Ian Paisley eventually acknowledged the need to get round the table,
Loads of photos of him sharing a laugh with Adams and McGuinness, do you think they
We're friends?
 

Grendel

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Do you acknowledge a correlation in an increase in IRA activity in Northern Ireland and
Here between 1979 and 1992, would you agree there was a real momentum for peace
Resulting in the signing of the peace treaty.
If it wasn't for the likes of Corbyn, we would still have soldiers on the streets of NI and
Still living under the threat of attacks on the mainland,
FFS even the Rev Ian Paisley eventually acknowledged the need to get round the table,
Loads of photos of him sharing a laugh with Adams and McGuinness, do you think they
We're friends?

It was nothing to do with Corbyn he wanted Northern Ireland to be dissolved into the republic and could not give a fuck how many UK citizens died defending democracy
 

SIR ERNIE

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It was nothing to do with Corbyn he wanted Northern Ireland to be dissolved into the republic and could not give a fuck how many UK citizens died defending democracy

Truthful and profound. Very well said.
 

Grendel

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Funny how age changes you -- I'm morphing into Richard Littlejohn
 

fernandopartridge

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It won't just be yourself in the public sector mate - the average joe working at Tescos, or Amazon, or any one of the big corporations or firms will still be paid the bare minimum they can get away with. Fair play if you run a small business and try to look after yourself and your family - but I'm under no illusion that big employers treat their staff as anything other than monkeys wallowing in their own shit.

Very sweeping statement that - I'm sure you're not saying all people who consider themselves lefties are scum?

Damage already done and there's plenty of stuff now on YouTube and in the rags to reinforce the message that she's an idiot. I'm pleased that a lot of people look past the masks of the people involved in this election (her, Boris, Corbyn, May) and will decide on the issues, but for many its all about the personalities and the image. I kind of think we might not even be having these discussions had they picked the other Milliband.

Think we've all made our minds up by now. Lets hope whoever wins we get a better, fairer for all country, that can hold its own out of the EU. We can't piss the europeans off, we need them to welcome us in a couple of years when City win the Prem under Robins :)
That's what years of dumbing down leads to. Even the BBC news follows what Sky does.

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Ranjit Bhurpa

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Well, here we are on the eve of the General Election and I haven't got a clue who to vote for or even whether to vote at all.
Whilst historically leaning to the right, I'm not at all taken with the arrogance that seems to have enveloped the Conservative party. Last time round I had a visit from the defending Conservative MP who must have been sweating on the outcome. As it turned out, he got elected by a 7% majority (including my vote), but we haven't seen anything of him this time. Maybe he is quietly confident - although I don't know why - and resources have been diverted elsewhere? Just a tacky A4 leaflet shoved through the door, similar in style to the Liberal Democrats and Greens.
As for Labour, their canvassing has been very organised and at least they have tried to engage on the doorstep. I have warmed to the theme of 'for the many, not the few' but am very dubious of the leadership qualities at national level of Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott and Thornberry and how it would all be paid for. They're on a par with the champagne socialism practicised by the obnoxious Blair, whilst sharing the ability to bankrupt the country in the process.
So is it a vote for the have it alls, the want it alls or the never will haves? Not an inspiring choice at all.
 

fernandopartridge

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When they introduced minimum wage here, I raised my pub prices and people accepted it.
It won't happen in Britain, 38 years of Tory and Tory lite policy means that wage growth has been stagnant despite alleged economic booms.
They can afford it over there because the German government has an industrial policy and has protected its industry. Tories and their New Labour protégé did as much as they could go destroy Britain's, preferring to back cheap credit and create a mirage of wealth. They blame the failing of British industry on the workers, not the old school tie Tory wankers who ran the nationalised companies into the ground ready to be sold off.

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Captain Dart

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Obviously in your role as CCHQ chief spokesman you'd have a lot more understanding of the idea of a U-turn than everyone else...
Ha ha, Grendul was accusing me of being an agent of CCC and a close ally of Ann Lucas last year.
 

SkyblueBazza

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Corbyn has always been happy to praise them and refuses to ever say anything against them. Would you like to explain why you see that as PM material?

You can question May as much as you want. BTW do you think that I will be voting Tory? :rolleyes:
Yes - he remains dignified & principled. Tries to achieve stuff through dialogue...& listening & then considering is how he seems to me.
The approach we have taken over the last 30yrs hasn't really served us too well if you consider the shit state of the nation. So perhaps it is time to try a different approach?

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SkyblueBazza

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You missed out about praising IRA members who committed murder of innocent people.
Much as the ANC was praised for its stance against oppression you mean? But I bet a great many decrying him supported their cause - & even our own aid helping them - even if they did commit acts of terror.

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