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Houchens Head

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Just Google "VPN providers". There's loads to choose from. Various price range. averages out to around £40 a year or thereabouts. Just follow install instructions. If you use a router then you just install it to that.
 

Houchens Head

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Me and you both. I haven't got a clue. I know what the VPN stands for but still haven't got a clue what it does.
It hides your IP address.
Jeez! I'm ancient and I know! C'mon! Get with it! :emoji_grin:
 

Otis

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It hides your IP address.
Jeez! I'm ancient and I know! C'mon! Get with it! :emoji_grin:
And that can't be traced? Surely everything can be traced if you have skill and equipment can't it?

Is this how people access the dark web?
 

Houchens Head

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No idea about the dark web, Otis. I've heard about it but I'd stay well clear of weird shit like that! VPN's are pretty secure, although I'm sure some government agency around the globe would find a way to get through.
 

Otis

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I was hoping the dark web was where I could find out more stuff about Batman and Johnny Cash.
 

Houchens Head

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I was hoping the dark web was where I could find out more stuff about Batman and Johnny Cash.
Being a dark web, I'd have thought more along the lines of Spider-Man!
 

shmmeee

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And that can't be traced? Surely everything can be traced if you have skill and equipment can't it?

Is this how people access the dark web?

It acts as a proxy. So instead of your connection going PC -> Website and your ISP recording that, it goes PC -> VPN and the ISP can't see further than that. Usually all encrypted so can't be snooped either. Obviously should they wish the VPN provider could keep a list of what you access, so you have to pick wisely, but there are good reviews out there. The good ones don't keep logs of what anyone visits so even if the police turn up asking for your porn history, they can't give it to them.

Deep/dark web is something different. It actually refers to any part of the web not crawled by search engine, so company internal sites, webcams, etc. But also something called Tor, which is what the media mean when they say dark web. It's a collection of websites that use a special protocol called Tor that requires a certain browser to decode. Then the entire Tor net sort of acts like a VPN in that you don't connect direct to a deep web site (or onion link as it's known) you connect to other Tor users, so again your ISP/Government/Russian Hacker Wife only sees you connecting to another user, not the encrypted content you receive via them. Issue with Tor is that if you are an "exit node" you are on the edge of the network connecting to dodgy sites for people and you know what sites people are going to or can man in the middle them. So it was in the law enforcement's interests to put themselves into the network as exit nodes so they could spot what people were doing. There's some debate about how secure Tor is now.
 

SkyblueBazza

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It acts as a proxy. So instead of your connection going PC -> Website and your ISP recording that, it goes PC -> VPN and the ISP can't see further than that. Usually all encrypted so can't be snooped either. Obviously should they wish the VPN provider could keep a list of what you access, so you have to pick wisely, but there are good reviews out there. The good ones don't keep logs of what anyone visits so even if the police turn up asking for your porn history, they can't give it to them.

Deep/dark web is something different. It actually refers to any part of the web not crawled by search engine, so company internal sites, webcams, etc. But also something called Tor, which is what the media mean when they say dark web. It's a collection of websites that use a special protocol called Tor that requires a certain browser to decode. Then the entire Tor net sort of acts like a VPN in that you don't connect direct to a deep web site (or onion link as it's known) you connect to other Tor users, so again your ISP/Government/Russian Hacker Wife only sees you connecting to another user, not the encrypted content you receive via them. Issue with Tor is that if you are an "exit node" you are on the edge of the network connecting to dodgy sites for people and you know what sites people are going to or can man in the middle them. So it was in the law enforcement's interests to put themselves into the network as exit nodes so they could spot what people were doing. There's some debate about how secure Tor is now.
Wtf are you on about man?
Put the bottle down, sleep for 12hrs then come back n try again.

Never heard such gibberish

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Otis

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Oh, well now I am even more confused. :confused:

Changing the subject slightly, just finished watching the rest of Sneaky Pete and thought it was excellent. Really recommend it and can't wait until season 2 comes out.
 

covcity4life

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rich which isp are you using?

kodi wasnt working for me either last few months but once i disabled the sky shield its ok now
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
Sky will not let Kodi through. It is massive competition to it's own programming! Use a VPN!
 

Houchens Head

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Still might not allow it through. Get rid of Sky. It's a rip-off anyway!
 

shmmeee

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Yeah...I'm sure it is perfectly clear for those that speak Swahili

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OK.

Imagine you're a kid and you've got a mate your parents don't like, so they monitor your phone history to see if you called him to hang out. So what you do is call another mate your parents don't mind, and get him to call your dodgy mate on another phone and sellotape them together so you can hear each other. Your good mate is the VPN, your parents are the government/internet provider, your dodgy mate is your midget porn or whatever you're hiding.

The weak link in the system is how trustworthy is your good mate? Will he tell your parents about the calls to Midget Porn Dave if he's asked? Does he leave his phone around unlocked with a history of the calls when he's round yours?
 

SkyblueBazza

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OK.

Imagine you're a kid and you've got a mate your parents don't like, so they monitor your phone history to see if you called him to hang out. So what you do is call another mate your parents don't mind, and get him to call your dodgy mate on another phone and sellotape them together so you can hear each other. Your good mate is the VPN, your parents are the government/internet provider, your dodgy mate is your midget porn or whatever you're hiding.

The weak link in the system is how trustworthy is your good mate? Will he tell your parents about the calls to Midget Porn Dave if he's asked? Does he leave his phone around unlocked with a history of the calls when he's round yours?
Ahh-ha now I get it.

Thank you

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