New Dr Who (5 Viewers)

[Liquid Gold]

Well I'm really looking forwards to it and if people think it childish I would counter that by saying it is no more childish than Star Wars and in fact, Doctor Who has a lot more social commentary and moral compass about it I reckon.

If anyone thinks it childish I would urge them to watch the episode Amy's Choice. There are a number of excellent episodes to be found, but as I said earlier in the thread I have been a bit disappointed with this last series.

Star wars is cowboys and indians in space

 

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[Otis]

Star wars is cowboys and indians in space

Yep. Didn't want to say it out loud so as to offend people, but it is all very simple.

Doctor Who and Star Trek are a lot more thought provoking and ask moral questions such as involving the playing of God and of the taking of or the saving of a life etc. Moral dilemmas to be mulled over.

 

[Ian1779]

I'd have gone with Dean Gaffney myself... but whatever.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I don't think it's just that a woman has been appointed, I have no doubt she will do a good job, it's more that the BBC have probably actively seeked a woman to fill the roll to appease the pressures of their diversity and equality quotas.

People can snigger from their paper castle's, but I would expect something like Tracy Beaker being replaced by 'Trevor Beaker' to cause far more of an outcry than this, should it ever happen, to be completely honest.

 

[Otis]

I don't think it's just that a woman has been appointed, I have no doubt she will do a good job, it's more that the BBC have probably actively seeked a woman to fill the roll to appease the pressures of their diversity and equality quotas.

People can snigger from their paper castle's, but I would expect something like Tracy Beaker being replaced by 'Trevor Beaker' to cause far more of an outcry than this, should it ever happen, to be completely honest.

Because of BBC cutbacks I think you will now find that it is Empty Beaker.

 

[Liquid Gold]

I don't think it's just that a woman has been appointed, I have no doubt she will do a good job, it's more that the BBC have probably actively seeked a woman to fill the roll to appease the pressures of their diversity and equality quotas.

People can snigger from their paper castle's, but I would expect something like Tracy Beaker being replaced by 'Trevor Beaker' to cause far more of an outcry than this, should it ever happen, to be completely honest.

This has been bought up a lot, about it being BBC diversity, but it was Chris Chibnall who wanted her and he's said she was his first choice all along.

 

[dutchman]

Was he the original creator? Not Terrance Dicks?

Yes he was and he envisioned someone more like the benign character portrayed by Peter Cushing in the movie version than the cantankerous old misery that Hartnell played.

 

[scubasteve]

I couldn't careless if it is a man or women to be honest I don't watch it that often, but you do get the impression they actively wanted a women to play the part to make a statement in some pc equal rights move. Its just like how they did the female ghost busters movie or they are now doing a female version of oceans 11.

 

[clint van damme]

I don't think it's just that a woman has been appointed, I have no doubt she will do a good job, it's more that the BBC have probably actively seeked a woman to fill the roll to appease the pressures of their diversity and equality quotas.

People can snigger from their paper castle's, but I would expect something like Tracy Beaker being replaced by 'Trevor Beaker' to cause far more of an outcry than this, should it ever happen, to be completely honest.

a girl changing to a boy in a program about the trials and tribulations of a teenage girl isn't quite the same as a man changing to a woman in a show about time travelling doctor who fights a variety of monsters and maniacs on a host of different planets armed with a screw driver though.

 

[Otis]

a girl changing to a boy in a program about the trials and tribulations of a teenage girl isn't quite the same as a man changing to a woman in a show about time travelling doctor who fights a variety of monsters and maniacs on a host of different planets armed with a screw driver though.

Some would say a woman armed with a screwdriver is a lot more dangerous.

 

[RegTheDonk]

Did annoy me last series. Bill (new companion) spent the entire series reminding everyone that she was a lesbian.

I thought once Russel T Davis moved on there would be less of this. Torchwood was spoiled by constant gay references with no substance. We see Gwen and Rhys and how their courtship and marriage progresses - so if Captain Jack is gay and he wants to have a relationship with Ianto, not a problem...but lets see how that develops as two people, rather than putting in quips and double entendres to try and prove a point.

Appreciate that the BBC wants to try something new and perhaps has boxes to tick - and Doc Who because of his anything-can-happen premis would be the perfect vehicle to explore some issues. Just don't want those issues to get in the way of the story.

 

[bringbackrattles]

Some would say a woman armed with a screwdriver is a lot more dangerous.

Joy Sepalla armed with a screwdriver with Tim Fisher as her sidekick.They are The Hedge Fund From Outer Space ! Go on Otis there's a programme there waiting to be written !

 

[Otis]

I thought once Russel T Davis moved on there would be less of this. Torchwood was spoiled by constant gay references with no substance. We see Gwen and Rhys and how their courtship and marriage progresses - so if Captain Jack is gay and he wants to have a relationship with Ianto, not a problem...but lets see how that develops as two people, rather than putting in quips and double entendres to try and prove a point.

Appreciate that the BBC wants to try something new and perhaps has boxes to tick - and Doc Who because of his anything-can-happen premis would be the perfect vehicle to explore some issues. Just don't want those issues to get in the way of the story.

Agree. It all seemingly appeared to be just dumped in there for the sake of it and as a reminder.

Pretty much every single episode of this past season Bill had to tell someone she was a lesbian or hint at her not going for men. Seemed very much a deliberate ploy.

 

[Houchens Head]

I couldn't careless if it is a man or women to be honest I don't watch it that often, but you do get the impression they actively wanted a women to play the part to make a statement in some pc equal rights move. Its just like how they did the female ghost busters movie or they are now doing a female version of oceans 11.

My God!! They'll be talking about having women footballers soon! Will it never end?

 

[Houchens Head]

I wouldn't like to be a Dalek and mess with a female Doctor Who at the "wrong time of the month"! :happy:

 

[Houchens Head]

"Fuck me Dalek, I've just mopped this floor and you've put wheel marks on it!"...screamed the new Dr Who!

 

[scubasteve]

My God!! They'll be talking about having women footballers soon! Will it never end?

your joking female footballers, it will never happen......... madness

 

[ajsccfc]

I think my favourite reaction so far is 'what next, male Cagney and Lacey?'

 

[Otis]

I think my favourite reaction so far is 'what next, male Cagney and Lacey?'

Here you go.

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[Joy Division]

All these anti female Doctor Who opinions here be like

 

[Gazolba]

Disagree, Marty. You have to remember back then it was very much a masculine world and men snared up pretty much all the major parts in anything.

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Doctor Who has always had lots of strong female characters. Even in the very first episode there were two females and two males.
The two female roles were Barbara and Susan.
Most of the Doctor's companions through the entire series have been female.
Zoe (played by Wendy Padbury) springs to mind as a companion who was portrayed as equally intelligent as the Doctor.

 

[Otis]

They usually are, but the star was always the Doctor in whatever guise.

 

[Covstu]

I tried to get into it but never been fussed. I love sci fi and all but just couldn't connect. I cannot see why this isn't feasible given that there have been about 10 different people play the character. Although a male - female switch really didn't work on ghostbusters!

I wonder if this will start the trends of this type of transformation in characters, I don't think that they could do this for Bond for example

 

[Otis]

I tried to get into it but never been fussed. I love sci fi and all but just couldn't connect. I cannot see why this isn't feasible given that there have been about 10 different people play the character. Although a male - female switch really didn't work on ghostbusters!

I wonder if this will start the trends of this type of transformation in characters, I don't think that they could do this for Bond for example

They could do it for Terminator though and have Miranda Hart play the Swartzenegger role.

 

[Liquid Gold]

They could do it for Terminator though and have Miranda Hart play the Swartzenegger role.

As long as it's Terminator 2 and she gets melted down at the end.

 

[Otis]

And then she could go on to do a remake of The Blob.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

I suspect this is a case of Jody Whitaker suffering the same kind of prejudices& backlash that back in the day the first female Physicians faced...along with the first female pilots, female bus drivers, gays, blacks...plus countless more non-white 'alpha-male' types have been subjected to. Dr is not gender specific.

I have never actually liked the programme myself. I might just give it a fourth go in support of my open-minded, non-discriminate side.

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[hill83]

Let's be honest, it's a fucking shite show anyway.

I'm glad it's a woman purely to see the broflakes squirm. LOL

 

[wingy]

And then she could go on to do a remake of The Blob.

Or the Curse.

 

[chiefdave]

broflakes

what the hell is a broflake?

 

[wingy]

Let's be honest, it's a fucking shite show anyway.

I'm glad it's a woman purely to see the broflakes squirm. LOL

Yeah but it's only shite cos it doesn't fit into your preferences Hill.
I've never been hooked on it but watched it as a kid without being enthralled.
The more recent production of say the last ten years has been improved through more imaginative writing and production /technological improvements.
That hasn't hooked me personally but when and if I've tuned in its been good entertainment.

 

[Liquid Gold]

what the hell is a broflake?

A 'lad' that goes into meltdown when anything that isn't geared towards white males happens.

 

[Otis]

Yeah but it's only shite cos it doesn't fit into your preferences Hill.
I've never been hooked on it but watched it as a kid without being enthralled.
The more recent production of say the last ten years has been improved through more imaginative writing and production /technological improvements.
That hasn't hooked me personally but when and if I've tuned in its been good entertainment.

You see, I WAS enthralled as kid. Mesmerised and thrilled in equal measure and because I grew up with it and it formed a significant part of my viewing life (there was nothing else like it) it has stayed with me and I religiously still watch it now. There are a number of by the numbers epsiodes, but it is worth sticking with it for the odd gem that really shines and is brilliantly written and played out.

Doesn't bother me at all that a fair few on here have slated it, it remains saleable asset all around the world. 50 countries at last count. Also doesn't bother me that some say it's for kids. Clearly not to my mind, for a survey was carried out in the 1970's and 60% of the viewers were said to be adults.

My daughter got into it at 9 and now we both watch it together and both really look forwards to every episode. Long may it continue. It's an institution.

 

[dutchman]

I suspect this is a case of Jody Whitaker suffering the same kind of prejudices& backlash that back in the day the first female Physicians faced...along with the first female pilots, female bus drivers, gays, blacks...plus countless more non-white 'alpha-male' types have been subjected to. Dr is not gender specific.

I have never actually liked the programme myself. I might just give it a fourth go in support of my open-minded, non-discriminate side.

It's nothing to do with 'prejudice'. It's about the way the series has been buggered about with the last few years making a mockery of everything that's gone before it. Changing the lead character from male to female was simply the last straw for many viewers who've struggled to keep watching the series this long. I already gave up even before the most recent series was shown and it had nothing to do with who was playing the lead.

 

[hill83]

Yeah but it's only shite cos it doesn't fit into your preferences Hill.
I've never been hooked on it but watched it as a kid without being enthralled.
The more recent production of say the last ten years has been improved through more imaginative writing and production /technological improvements.
That hasn't hooked me personally but when and if I've tuned in its been good entertainment.

Yeah you are right. It's not shite. I just don't particularly like it. It obviously has it's merits, and many people do like it.

Easier to bellow "SHITE" though.