SkyBlue_Bear83
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Not really what my point was
If the doctor can regenerate into anything, then what is the story explanation of why he has always been a man. Not the real life explanation.
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If the doctor can regenerate into anything, then what is the story explanation of why he has always been a man. Not the real life explanation.
Sky_Blue_Daz
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Bloody uproar as according to reports the starting salary for a female Doctor Who is less then that of a trainee Dalek
Otis
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The story explanantion though is because of the real life explanation.
It's the real people who write the stories. :woot:
dutchman
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We just had a Mexican play a female Timelord and there were no complaints!
dutchman
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After an initial rise - thought to be due to the change of schedule from autumn to spring - they fell to well below the previous series. The numbers watching on catchup and overseas have also fallen as have sales of Dr Who merchandise.
RegTheDonk
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New Star Trek show has a female captain, just watched a trailer. Nothing new as weve seen that years ago in Voyager but its continuing the trend. Is there a reason for this in terms of revenue? Has there been more girls lining up to watch Star Wars with Episode 7 and Roge One having female leads?
Otis
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According to a BBC poll of 12,000 people only 15% were against having a female Doctor.
chiefdave
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Looks like the lack of female leads, on TV at least, might be overstated. BBC looked at the top 50 drams, excluding soaps, from last year and this was the result.
RegTheDonk
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Keep it to yourself Otis, you want a nerd bloodbath on your hands??
Otis
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Or to be strangled to death by knitted cardigan wearing, bespectacled, pot bellied 40 and 50 year olds.
dutchman
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Was it a poll of regular Dr Who viewers or a random sample because it hardly matters what people who don't watch the programme think.
This is from a poll of regular Dr Who viewers:
Otis
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But surely a poll on the whole would be more likely answered by people who watched or had an interest in the programme.Was it a poll of regular Dr Who viewers or a random sample because it hardly matters what people who don't watch the programme think.
This is from a poll of regular Dr Who viewers:
You would get a few who voted with absolutely no interest, but I can't believe for a second that a load of people who had absolutely no interest would then go out and cast a vote for a show they care nothing about.
BBC just said a poll of 12,000.
dutchman
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Also, have to say, 53% hardly points to overwhelming outrage.
If the majority of Who fans were outraged I would have expected that vote to be much closer to 75% and above.
The comments after the poll suggested that it was those who had watched the programme most regularly who were most hostile.
It's dead anyway, more people watched a repeat of Pointless Celebrities which cost the BBC nothing to make than watched most of Series 10.
Otis
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New series will bring in new fans. I am convinced of it and has already been said, people watch in so many different ways these days.
Long way from dead to my mind and I bet if we have this same conversation in 10 years time it will still be going strong then too. It is such an adaptable show, with few constraints.
dutchman
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Of course it will, but they won't be the kind who stick with the show just as they didn't stick with Series 10 and there won't be enough new new fans to compensate for the vast number of veteran fans who've abandoned the show.
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A portion of the first lot of fans'll be pretty dead or senile by now.
Otis
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That is of course just your opinion and not fact, dutchman.
I beg to differ. If Jodie Whittaker is really good there might well be a whole new following and who knows if they will stick with it or not. Pure conjecture.
Because of the format and because it is time travel and because the Doctor can be anything and go anywhere, there is plenty of mileage left in the show. That's what I believe anyway.
chiefdave
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The drop in merchandise you're referring to is presumably from last years BBC Worldwide Annual Report. That report covers a period that was part of the 15 month gap between series 9 and 10. In news that will shock nobody merchandise sales are lower when the show isn't on TV.
BBC don't even use the ratings anyway, they use Live + 7 as most industry people and Doctor Who adds considerably more viewers through that (averaged around an extra 3.5m per episode for series 9) than other shows. Basically TV viewing habits are changing, people don't watch live so ratings drop but those who aren't watching Doctor Who live are watching it on time shift in far greater numbers than other shows.
Its not going anywhere soon. In an unprecedented move the BBC has already sold up to series 15 overseas meaning at least 5 more series.
BBC don't even use the ratings anyway, they use Live + 7 as most industry people and Doctor Who adds considerably more viewers through that (averaged around an extra 3.5m per episode for series 9) than other shows. Basically TV viewing habits are changing, people don't watch live so ratings drop but those who aren't watching Doctor Who live are watching it on time shift in far greater numbers than other shows.
Its not going anywhere soon. In an unprecedented move the BBC has already sold up to series 15 overseas meaning at least 5 more series.
Grendel
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Why do people say she is a "fantastic actress" based on what? Her and the bloke who played her husband in Broadchurch reminded me of a furniture removal sale they were so wooden.
Why does she say she's a feminist and a woman? She's hardly Emily Davidson is she? Also if she's a feminist first why take the role as its only been made to be a woman so the flagging franchise gets interest. That's hardly feminism more opportinism.
Why does she say she's a feminist and a woman? She's hardly Emily Davidson is she? Also if she's a feminist first why take the role as its only been made to be a woman so the flagging franchise gets interest. That's hardly feminism more opportinism.
Otis
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All a matter of opinion.
I thought she was fantastic in the first series of Broadchurch and knew her before then from Attack the Block.
A very good actress I would say. Never seen her handle comedy though, so that will be interesting.
Otis
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Interesting this from Stephen Moffatt.
Moffat said. "There has been no backlash at all. The story of the moment is that the notionally conservative Doctor Who fandom has utterly embraced that change completely. Eighty-percent approval on social media, not that I check these things obsessively. So many people wanting to pretend there is a problem. There isn't.
Otis
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Anyone watch her in Trust Me last night on BBC1? Thought she was very impressive myself and all the reviews I have seen have praised her for her performance in it.
I did watch it Otis but I don't really see where the plot can go.
Unless it's only a two parter.
Otis
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4 parts.
It's moving at quite a pace isn't it!! I really liked it, but it is all rather fantastical. Somehow the film makers made it look quite gripping.
Whittaker is very good in it though.
Yeah not bad, just don't see where it can go.
She cheats, she gets found out, then punishment?
Otis
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Ooh, I like the sound of that.
Grendel
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She's a typical bang average actress to be honest. She will be on strictly come dancing soon.
Otis
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Well the critics seem to disagree with you on this.
Got a lot of plaudits and I would say she carries the show.
SkyblueBazza
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I am no film/tv buff - but I know people who seem 'affected' at all this kind of thing. They ask me if I am going to see film A...'no...should I?' Well yes they indicate - because actor B is in it...'who is he/she?' Oh come on, you must've seen film C...he/she was in that...'erm...no not seen it'
Does the actors in a film/program or show REALLY reliably reflect on how good or bad something will be? I tend to look at the theme or plot more than anything else, then watch or not, & enjoy or not.
Keep it simple because the eis so much good/bad shit out there it is impossible to keep up. There was a time so.ebody would recommend stuff - I would watch & be disappointed.
All about personal taste & opinion.
Let the Dr be...enjoy or or don't watch it & whichever the case just get on with it
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Does the actors in a film/program or show REALLY reliably reflect on how good or bad something will be? I tend to look at the theme or plot more than anything else, then watch or not, & enjoy or not.
Keep it simple because the eis so much good/bad shit out there it is impossible to keep up. There was a time so.ebody would recommend stuff - I would watch & be disappointed.
All about personal taste & opinion.
Let the Dr be...enjoy or or don't watch it & whichever the case just get on with it
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Otis
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Yeah, get your point, but I specifically watched this show last night BECAUSE Jodie Whittaker was in it and I liked her in Broadchurch and in Attack the Block.
Sometimes you can just watch an actor in anything and everything they do because you like their style of acting. I have always been the same.
All old actors, but I could watch anything with Cary Grant in and also James Stewart and Humphrey Bogart. Same too with Al Pacino and nowadays, Amy Adams and Kevin Spacey and Idris Elba.