A female's perspective on some of our fans (4 Viewers)
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ajsccfc
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Some pretty depressing stories on here. I have noticed a change over the last couple of seasons, but I'm not sure it is as dramatic as some are saying. There is nothing I have seen recently that I haven't witnessed many times over the years - but it does seem to be becoming more frequent. Oxford and Northampton last season were pretty toxic. On Saturday there was a group of blokes who nearly came to blows, something about being in the wrong seats, sad to witness.
I don't think it's the younger block 14 types that are the problem. They might play up and act like idiots at times, but I don't find them intimidating. When you have large groups of blokes in their 40s and 50s turning on their own supporters, that's ugly.
That said, we're not alone. Both Notts County and Newport brought some proper arseholes in the first two home games this season. Watching Newport fans doing star jumps safely behind a line of police was up there with one of the saddest things I have seen.
Don't mind people having a few drinks (guilty as charged), don't mind bad language (it's not Morris Dancing) and don't mind a slight aggressive edge to the support if it is channeled in the right way (i.e. urging the team on and aimed at the pitch); but some of the stuff I've witnessed recently is making people uncomfortable. Nobody should feel intimidated by their own supporters.
I don't think it's the younger block 14 types that are the problem. They might play up and act like idiots at times, but I don't find them intimidating. When you have large groups of blokes in their 40s and 50s turning on their own supporters, that's ugly.
That said, we're not alone. Both Notts County and Newport brought some proper arseholes in the first two home games this season. Watching Newport fans doing star jumps safely behind a line of police was up there with one of the saddest things I have seen.
Don't mind people having a few drinks (guilty as charged), don't mind bad language (it's not Morris Dancing) and don't mind a slight aggressive edge to the support if it is channeled in the right way (i.e. urging the team on and aimed at the pitch); but some of the stuff I've witnessed recently is making people uncomfortable. Nobody should feel intimidated by their own supporters.
eastwoodsdustman
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Simple way to stop most of it is to have sniffer dogs on the gate,stations and coach parks. It'd get all of the cokeheads away from the games which I think is a major cause. (i know a lot of teams will be playing 7 v 7 but hey ho)
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Certainly was a lot of beak being consumed at several away games last season......
...don't fancy the sniffer dog idea much though......they may find my match-day hash pipe.
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...don't fancy the sniffer dog idea much though......they may find my match-day hash pipe.
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Tommo72
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I've been watching Cov away for 25 years and it's always been there but to varying degrees depending on who we are playing etc.
I take my 13 year old lad these days rather than go with mates and I am always mindful/streetwise as to who we are with, pubs drinking at etc - prob like many.
Cov have always had this element whether it be the 'youth', the wannabes or the older lads (who generally either just encourage the younger ones or kick off away from the ground).
I'm not sure what the answer is but history tells me Cambridge and Luton amongst others will be toxic bearing in mind both these clubs have active hooligan firms.
oucho
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When did this happen? Which games? inside the ground?
Sky Blue Harry H
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Knew about Luton - also dislike some of Swindon's element, but didn't know Cambridge had a 'mob'?
Tommo72
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Yeh Cambridge have grown into the scene over the years....they generally only kicked off with Peterborough but yes they do have a mob and it wouldn't surprise me if this was a game for them to show.
Joy Division
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Surprised this hasn't been mentioned much before, I always notice a large element of fans coked up at away games, especially the ones with big followings. MK Dons away a few years ago was was ridiculous for this.
I have no problem with people doing it but combined with football its a bizarre mix, just don't understand it.
DannyThomas_1981
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Totally agree with this. Would these idiots use the same kind of language around their own parents, kids or young relatives? Passion is fantastic at football and is part of what makes it a great game. But it seems to me that the knuckle dragging morons hide behind this 'passion' to indulge in behaviour that in any other circumstance would simply be viewed as being anti social/criminal. This is exactly why I would feel uncomfortable bringing women and children to games. Even at home. Football still accepts the minority acting in an anti social way far too easily.
As for the assault highlighted in this thread. Unfortunately nothing new. I remember the exact same thing happening to a girlfriend of mine nearly 20 years ago by a group of mobbed up lads. She also wasn't from Coventry and never attended a game again.
Super_Johnny_Gayle
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This happens at the Ricoh.
Sky Blue Harry H
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Slightly off theme, but I have noticed a huge increase in the number of cars that have driven past me, or parked in Superstore carparks etc that absolutely reek of wacky baccy. If the drivers are doing this, how many are also coked up. scary to think they are on the road - just my perspective but if I see a group of young lads in a car (stereotyping alert!) I'm no longer even mildly surprised when the waft of hash quickly follows.Certainly was a lot of beak being consumed at several away games last season......
...don't fancy the sniffer dog idea much though......they may find my match-day hash pipe.
oucho
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I've noticed it being far more prevalent as well, though I work half the time in London and the rest of the time in Lincolnshire. It seems to basically go unchallenged and people can smoke it in public with impunity, police would argue they have reduced resources and therefore can't target use/possession as a priority. That being said, we did witness a flat above a shop in Chesterfield town centre getting raised by three police cars, coppers had opened the upstairs window revealing a huge stash of cannabis plants!
What, snorting them off he hand-dryers in the bogs?
Tommo72
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Plenty on it on Saturday too....I tend to agree with this.
I still think there is a certain arrogance attached to our fan base, 'we're Coventry City, we do what we want' and 'fight fight wherever you may be, we are the boys from Coventry'.....
Yes I know other clubs fans do it too but it always makes me cringe, especially when some of them are knowhere to be seen when it does come on top or kick off...
better days
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They do it off the back of their hands these days. Pretty depraved really
Explains the aggressive attitudes maybe
Completely agree, the edge and rivalry at football matches were what used to make it stand out from watching other sports. Cov seems to have always had a bit of a problem with unity though, I remember as a kid in the 80's Cov fans from the likes of Bell Green, Tile Hill and Canley etc kicking off with each other when in those days away from home, you needed everyone to be sticking together.
Yeah but the Cambridge ones will only throw text books and champagne corks at you !?
chiefdave
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Each to their own but I don't really get why you'd want to be coked up to go to the footy.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Its rife mate.....its not like the old days with lads queuing to hoover up tidy lines with crisp tenner......its like snuff these days.....I've seen lads not even break stride whilst tooting a spoonful walking down the street.
Chav factory weed stinks these days.....a lot of it is sprayed with all sorts of shite to make it smell stronger & weigh more......wouldn't touch that shite myself....I'm a connoisseur....
JWC
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I never knew it was a thing until i saw it openly at Brighton away a few seasons back. Some guy was getting his dick out and waving it around too. A truly sorry sight. Capped off by one guy shouting at an injured Brighton player on the sidelines that he hoped he died from cancer and 90 minutes worth of homophobia, it was my wife's first and last away game. She refuses to go back at all now and I can't blame her tbh. The atmosphere seems to be getting worse and it's embarrassing.
no_loyalty
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I sympathise with you Oucho, it is disgusting behaviour.
I also took the missus to the Chesterfield match, and she had hassle from one of the blokes in the row in front of us, he kept turning round and either kept calling her babe, or just turned round at stared at her for a while.
Cov kid 55
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On the theme of women at Cov games, my wife attended her first game with me against Everton at Highfield Road, when we won to stay up. At the time she used to say to her friends that she enjoyed going to games because we seemed to be a famiky oriented club, lots of women and children. She doesn't think it now, she still comes to away games with me, but she's intimidated, and doesn't understand the toxic reaction from our fans when we lose. In terms of chants one I don't like to hear is the 'Grimsby's a **** hole, I want to..... We enjoyed our weekend in Grimsby, we spoke to friendly, helpful local supporters before and after the game, who have had to put up with a few years of conference football. We liked the small, atmospheric ground, but I cringed when I heard that. After all, thanks to Mr Hitler and post war building disasters, our city, it has to be admitted, is not the most aesthetically pleasing by any means (I'm still proud to have been born there, mind!). And the 'we're just to good for you chants' really paved the way for the next few games! (See my 'Kipling' thread about keeping a balance, if you can be bothered!!!). I guess I'm old fashioned and out of touch - but I'm not so proud as I used to be, to support the City. Which is sad.
ccfctommy
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Im stating to think this also.
Tommo72
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What happened here then.....?
Derbyshire Constabulary - Witness appeal after clash between rival football supporters
Derbyshire Constabulary - Witness appeal after clash between rival football supporters
oucho
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Drove past this pub on the way but didn't see any trouble...in fact, didn't see any Chesterfield fans at all despite lots of CCFC being on display. This was at about 1.15 though so long before the incident took place.
skybluebeduff
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Unused sub in the EFL Cup recently.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Completely out of order, they are the sort of twats that grope women on the tube in London when its crowded. Why they do it I don't know is it to see what the reaction would be God knows
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RB1992
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Mate point any of these lads out to me and I'll sort them out
oucho
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If I'd have seen it I would have done so myself!
oscillatewildly
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Getting back to the subject matter of this thread - and the previous mention of CCTV in that vicinity, I would at least enquire, ouch.
I also hope that the perpetrator(s), if not signed up members, do occasionally look on these boards and have been studying this thread.
I'd be a bit concerned if I was them (a depressing thought.) Expect a knock at your door sometime in the near future, you inadequate shit heads.
I also hope that the perpetrator(s), if not signed up members, do occasionally look on these boards and have been studying this thread.
I'd be a bit concerned if I was them (a depressing thought.) Expect a knock at your door sometime in the near future, you inadequate shit heads.
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue
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I do think in the last couple of seasons some people on away trips have used the SISU Out protests as an excuse to get pissed up and play up...and I think the SBT are turning a blind eye to it
(chucks grenade and runs)
(chucks grenade and runs)