CCFC Club in Crisis (5 Viewers)

[Nick]

You speak like you enjoy being shafted by a hedge fund!

Yes, because somebody shouting and being angry makes a difference doesn't it?

 

---

[Nick]

That day in question you keep on about against Sheffield game the was stopped (just as if there was a injury) when it resumed we did not concentrate that is nothing to do with anything that went before. Stop blaming the protest they a professional players it is their livelihood although the way some played last season you would not think it

You also talk as if it is one game... Great how people justify it all by saying we were rubbish anyway so it's ok.

 

[Monkeyface]

People blamed certain results on protests, let's not suddenly appear again and bullshit about it.

The protests done were never going to do a thing but self satisfaction. Nothing was going to change from any of them.

People keep acting like shouting a lot will fix everything

You say that, but our situation has been discussed in the national media, the house of commons, the football authorities. And now will be discussed again by the EFL. If the rest of the fans had taken your approach I'm not sure we'd have had any airtime anywhere. It might not have achieved anything so far, but it may do, then again it may not. But nothing will certainly achieve nothing. And I'd certainly like to have been on the side that tried, rather than the side that did nothing, except moan about those that tried. I'm sure you are a nice guy in person, but you don't half come across as a nause on here.

 

[Monkeyface]

I only mentioned certain games, the ones where protests actually affected matches.

Even more reason not to blow whistles or storm the pitch when our team is clinging on to a result then surely?

I don't think anybody would blame a march before a game for a result or goal going in.

Again, not hard to understand why people blamed certain protests and not all of them.

Exactly what affect did those goals/points have on the overall season?

 

[Nick]

Exactly what affect did those goals/points have on the overall season?

Again, does that justify it then? I'm not on about marches or when there was a mock funeral. Although I didn't think they would do anything they wouldn't affect matches.

 

[Monkeyface]

Again, does that justify it then? I'm not on about marches or when there was a mock funeral. Although I didn't think they would do anything they wouldn't affect matches.

Ok, so what do you suggest? What do you think will make a difference? How can we keep our situation in the media?

I think most people are open to suggestions at this point.

 

[Nick]

Ok, so what do you suggest? What do you think will make a difference? How can we keep our situation in the media?

I think most people are open to suggestions at this point.

The media obsession is pointless, the focus should be on the fan base first and foremost.

It won't make sisu go though, but a stronger United fanbase would be much better. A good start would be somebody like the trust ironing out all myths etc

 

[Monkeyface]

Again, does that justify it then? I'm not on about marches or when there was a mock funeral. Although I didn't think they would do anything they wouldn't affect matches.

Well actually yeah I think it does. It made headlines, and the club would have had to answer some questions.

 

[Monkeyface]

The media obsession is pointless, the focus should be on the fan base first and foremost

You're going to have to explain that to me, I'm clearly a knuckledragger who can't comprehend what you're saying.

Are you telling me that media pressure is useless?

 

[Hobo]

Yes, because somebody shouting and being angry makes a difference doesn't it?

Sometimes it does though. If you look back on history there are loads of bonkers ineffective protests and stands that seemed futile, but years and years later they seem forward thinking and the ideology accepted as the norm.

Muttering in the background achieves nothing. The failure of Coventry City doesn't really effect Joy or Tim, their income and lifestyle continue.

 

[Nick]

Well actually yeah I think it does. It made headlines, and the club would have had to answer some questions.

The club yes, not sisu.

 

[Nick]

Sometimes it does though. If you look back on history there are loads of bonkers ineffective protests and stands that seemed futile, but years and years later they seem forward thinking and the ideology accepted as the norm.

Muttering in the background achieves nothing. The failure of Coventry City doesn't really effect Joy or Tim, their income and lifestyle continue.

I just meant in this situation, the only thing that will really make them go is money

 

[Monkeyface]

The media obsession is pointless, the focus should be on the fan base first and foremost.

It won't make sisu go though, but a stronger United fanbase would be much better. A good start would be somebody like the trust ironing out all myths etc

You haven't given any suggestions really. List the actions that we can actually do, that you think everyone else has missed. Nothing vague like "the Trust ironing out old myths" something tangible that everyone can get behind.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

You speak as if ranting makes any difference.

Ok what are you doing about are football club and the mess it's in ?

Other than WHINGING about people having a RANT ! :facepalm: :stop:

 

[Monkeyface]

The club yes, not sisu.

Oh yeah, because there is no connection between the two.

 

[Nick]

Ok what are you doing about are football club and the mess it's in ?

Other than WHINGING about people having a RANT ! :facepalm: :stop:

Supporting it as much as I can through thick and thin like a lot of others do.

Providing a website where people can share information.

Providing a platform for people to discuss ccfc and reach thousands of other fans every day.

 

[ccfcway]

no match day protests to lose points so far this season, so we need to think about a new song.....

"who needs match day protests when we have liam Obrien"

 

[Nick]

Oh yeah, because there is no connection between the two.

That's one of the things people need to be made aware of.

 

[skybluetony176]

You say that, but our situation has been discussed in the national media, the house of commons, the football authorities. And now will be discussed again by the EFL. If the rest of the fans had taken your approach I'm not sure we'd have had any airtime anywhere. It might not have achieved anything so far, but it may do, then again it may not. But nothing will certainly achieve nothing. And I'd certainly like to have been on the side that tried, rather than the side that did nothing, except moan about those that tried. I'm sure you are a nice guy in person, but you don't half come across as a nause on here.

Absolutely bang on the button. Our protesting fans are a thorn in the side of the FL and as long as we maintain that they've got to be doing something about looking concerned. Especially now parliament is on the case. Has our fans on their own achieved that? Absolutely not. It's been a joint effort by the fans of lots of clubs over years like us, Blackburn, Portsmouth, Blackpool, Charlton, Wimbledon etc. and outfits like supporters direct. If we'd all stayed quiet like some fans unbelievably seem to think we should have the FL wouldn't have to be seen to doing something and parliament wouldn't have felt the need to get involved.

Well done everyone who could be arsed to get involved and an even bigger well done to those that did the organising. It's just a shame that the why bother crowd seem to have worn down those who are/were bothered.

 

[Monkeyface]

I just meant in this situation, the only thing that will really make them go is money

So do we give them more, or stop giving them anything at all? Because the former isn't going to happen as too many people have given up. And the latter isn't popular with equally as many. Next suggestion please.

 

[Nick]

You haven't given any suggestions really. List the actions that we can actually do, that you think everyone else has missed. Nothing vague like "the Trust ironing out old myths" something tangible that everyone can get behind.

Everybody can get behind ccfc... It's not a new concept. We did it at Wembley, that's a good example.

Celebrate ccfc rather than being angry. Might not be the best but get behind ccfc.

 

[skybluetony176]

The media obsession is pointless, the focus should be on the fan base first and foremost.

It won't make sisu go though, but a stronger United fanbase would be much better. A good start would be somebody like the trust ironing out all myths etc

You can join the rest of us anytime you like. No ones stopping you.

 

[ccfcway]

Providing a platform for people to discuss ccfc and reach thousands of other fans every day.

the last platform involving CCFC fans resulted in fighting and people being angry at our chairman

 

[Nick]

You can join the rest of us anytime you like. No ones stopping you.

I'm there as much as physically possible already.

 

[Monkeyface]

That's one of the things people need to be made aware of.

I don't think that's an issue really. But if you think it is message all subscribes explaining difference. I'm happy to spread the word on the Facebook page too.

That's one of the things people need to be made aware of.

 

[Nick]

I don't think that's an issue really. But if you think it is message all subscribes explaining difference. I'm happy to spread the word on the Facebook page too.

It is a bit of an issue, not just that but confusion in general isn't it. That could be due to emotion too.

 

[Monkeyface]

It is a bit of an issue, not just that but confusion in general isn't it. That could be due to emotion too.

Well let's get a message to all subscribes to this site then and make sure everyone is aware.

 

[Monkeyface]

Everybody can get behind ccfc... It's not a new concept. We did it at Wembley, that's a good example.

Celebrate ccfc rather than being angry. Might not be the best but get behind ccfc.

As I mentioned before that's not going to happen. Too many people have walked away, and as useful as this site is it's not going to bring back the thousands needed. And actually you know that, it's just another way of you doing nothing and blaming everyone else for not joining you.

 

[skybluetony176]

I'm there as much as physically possible already.

So are the majority who have protested. Except they've protested as well.

 

[Nick]

As I mentioned before that's not going to happen. Too many people have walked away, and as useful as this site is it's not going to bring back the thousands needed. And actually you know that, it's just another way of you doing nothing and blaming everyone else for not joining you.

I didn't say this site would bring thousands back though?

 

[Nick]

So are the majority who have protested. Except they've protested as well.

So what are you on about joining then? I haven't said people who protest don't go. You offered for me to join the rest of you, I said I'm at as many games as possible.

 

[ccfcway]

plenty of things we still haven't done.

We need to get Joy in the spotlight.

no-one go into the ground until 5 mins before kick off, resulting in a delay and everyone wear Joy masks on the way in.

Have a collection outside when everyone is hanging around, going towards a fighting fund to take out an ad in the FT commenting on how SISU capital have treated their "investment" . All fans donate a quid. Call it "a pound for the dogs" reflecting how we have been treated in the whole mess.

I still really like to idea of not attending one home game and going to Cov Rugby club, then the next home game, packing the ricoh, showing the potential. Sadly, that simply isn't going to happen now.

 

[Monkeyface]

I didn't say this site would bring thousands back though?

So how do we get the thousands back? This is what I mean about vague ideas. They don't mean anything.

What three thing's do you think we should do? Give me three good, clear, achievable ideas and I promise you i will give you all the suppory you need.

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

You also talk as if it is one game... Great how people justify it all by saying we were rubbish anyway so it's ok.

That is the one game YOU keep on about nothing about the lack of professionalism that was missing on that day and many other times in the season stop blaming protests they are paid to do a job the other teams took advantage . I for one don't think anyone cover themselves with glory do you?

 

[skybluetony176]

So what are you on about joining then? I haven't said people who protest don't go. You offered for me to join the rest of you, I said I'm at as many games as possible.

You were the one talking about uniting. We all go so if that's the limitation of what you consider united we already are. The only way we're not united is in protest. The majority are but you seem to relish being in the minority so if you want us to unite in some other way other than attending your welcome to join us. Unless you've got a better idea that we can unite behind you with of course.