Nick
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Still, nothing at all like you claimed...
Steps removed. SISU and CCFC. (42 Viewers)
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Moff
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Did you say it was to do with time and finances then?
Exactly the same reason shut down the Villa and Blues forum on the Birmingham Mail, due to time, staffing and cost constraints.
Sky Blue Kid
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So what did "Wasted resources" mean then... Everything was hunky dory?
dongonzalos
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Why would SISU pay money for ACL. Whilst they sat at Northampton as far as they were concerned the value was falling by the day.
The Council and the charity did what was best, when you consider it from an all round perspective.
If you only consider it as an angry Cov fan. You will never accept that.
The anger is misplaced, most Cov fans to be fair know where it should be directed.
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Nick
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Exactly what it says, resources that were wasted. Hence multiple others also closed.
Moff
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When a business with a limited budget spend money on something that brings it no commercial benefit, I would say that is Wasted resources.
You keep pushing the conspiracy if it makes you happy, I will trust the words of the man that ran it and it was down to cash, like the one on the Birmingham Mail, and all the others the Mirror Group ran that all shut.
skybluetony176
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Are you completely oblivious to the details and outcome of JR 1 by accident or through choice?
chiefdave
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Now what are you on about?
ACL got the rent money from CCFC. ACL was repaying the bank loan. The rent strike showed the dependence on CCFC. After that everyone knew about the loan.
What the fuck are you on about?
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Nick
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To the every day man on the street, they would have thought that ACL didnt rely on CCFC, ACL was washing it's face and CCFC was only a small factor as that's what was being pushed through the media / PR lines.
Gosford Green
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I can not help thinking of the Vichy French when I read some of the comments from the more sympathetic to SISU on here.
Yes the Germans are in charge but I still whole hardly support the French state. Blowing up railway stations is damaging France not Germany.
Yes the Germans are in charge but I still whole hardly support the French state. Blowing up railway stations is damaging France not Germany.
Nick
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So by saying people shouldn't damage CCFC thinking it gets at SISU and to damage SISU directly it's sympathetic to SISU?
I'd say it's more sympathetic to CCFC.
Still, keep boxing away at CCFC to show your outrage at SISU damaging CCFC while SISU sit and watch you do it
Liquid Gold
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Can someone point out 1 bit of action that has actually had an effect on sisu. Not ccfc who've lost their home, thousands of fans and league position. What has damaged sisu and how have they been damaged?
Nick
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PWKH put a balloon under Fisher's wiper.
Rusty Trombone
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Did you see the state of Joy at the recent court case?
How much have the court cases cost SISU so far?
torchomatic
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If you believed the hysterical on here, Twitter and the CT site about four members of the Academy...
Nick
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That's still not what he asked though
I am answering a question with a question.... a known tactic on here ;-)
Liquid Gold
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So what you're saying is cov fans haven't hurt sisu at all. They've only hurt themselves.
My question still stands. How have sisu been damaged by any of the actions taken by our fans. As far as I can tell we're only fucking up the club we profess to support.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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I'm not fucking up the club the only ones that are fucking up the club are the owners and what a great job they have done and are continuing to do. If we were in the same position as we were when they took us over do you really think we would be getting crowds of 6000?
The Penguin
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Gaaaah, bloody Vicky. Geez she used to give me the irrits (hardly alone on that score to be fair).
Then she found out she knew my cousin and suddenly I had to be nice :happy:
Yes, it's more SISU destroying themselves... doing very well at that without fans help. Don't see much that the fans can do to help them destroy themselves... Still the action at the Sheffield game was justified and necessary although I don't think it should happen on a regular basis. The fans had to say something at that point and show their discontent- regardless of whether it hurt SISU or not.
Nick
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Still doesn't answer his question
I said they don't need fans help to destroy themselves. Which implies trying to hurt SISU through CCFC won't hurt SISU as much as SISU have hurt themselves.
ccfcway
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the everyday man on the street wouldn't have a clue who ACL are. Just because CCFC is a large part of our lives, many people go around completely unaware of the ins and outs of this mess
Nick
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So you are agreeing with him? What you say now makes hurting CCFC to try and get at SISU even more pointless
Nick
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Most would just see it as "the ricoh". You are right, it wouldnt be in the ins and outs. Just what they see as headlines etc.
Liquid Gold
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So in conclusion nothing fans have done has hurt sisu. NOPM doesn't hurt sisu, marches don't hurt sisu, flying pigs don't hurt sisu.
I can't believe the trust, after 9 years of sisu being here haven't managed to focus their attention on sisu's business activities and offices. Arranging days where people block their phones all day. A picket line outside their offices. Adverts in the FT about their many failures.
I can't believe the trust, after 9 years of sisu being here haven't managed to focus their attention on sisu's business activities and offices. Arranging days where people block their phones all day. A picket line outside their offices. Adverts in the FT about their many failures.
Nick
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In fairness to the Trust, I am not sure if some of that would cross a few "legal" lines so can understand people from the trust with mortgages, families etc not wanting to put their name to things like that.
Liquid Gold
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Yeah fair enough but those are just a couple of things off the top of my head. Surely an organisation with hundreds, if not thousands, of members could come up with legal means of targeting sisu and not city.
Nick
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Well yeah, there are ways direct at SISU but just if it is stuff like blocking phone lines that could be something like obstructing business or whatever law / angle could be pulled it's understandable if they aren't there leading it.
Liquid Gold
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How does law work around something like the trust. Could they vote for illegal measures and then when sisu bring legal action disband with those on the board saying they were against the idea and it was done by unknown members.
I'm not suggesting this happen I'm just curious as to how the trust is treated under law.
Nick
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I'm not too sure, although there was a case in Coventry where a residential group were fighting against a school being built and the individuals ended up with massive legal bills and potentially losing their homes over it after they lost the legal action. Not worth the risk for anybody.
I am sure there would be ways round it if they wanted to risk things like that.
So you are agreeing with him? What you say now makes hurting CCFC to try and get at SISU even more pointless
I think that was always my stance. Apart from the Sheffield game being a necessary protest at that moment. I said that I get that CCFC is a separate entity on a day to day basis. Hurting CCFC only makes the day to day business harder. Hurting SISU is difficult because we have little to do with them directly and they seem impervious to protests.