Oh Jeremy Corbyn (13 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

Yes I do. Government stats are independent. Did you know that people in temporary accommodation are counted in homelessness stats?

I don't know anything about homeless stats, it was just an example, my point is studies on a whole host of subjects often contradict each other depending on the methods of those who compiled it or the agenda of those who compiled it or the people who commissioned them to compile it.

 

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[mrtrench]

Yes I agree with that. The devil is in the detail. When looking for information I trust hmrc and gov over other sites, where one has no idea of agenda or even if the truth is even intended.

 

[skybluegod]

I currently get 28 days off a year which is not bad but do often work 10-12 days. I believe life is to live not to work but am not afraid to put the hours in if I have time to recuperate.

Yep once my training has finished, my holiday is 28 days a year, plus 1 day extra for every 30 spent at sea.

Guess it depends on your job as well, if your job is enjoyable then it’s not working it is living but not everybody gets that!

 

[martcov]

It has zero to do with Brexit you clown.

I thought you were one of those democrats who thinks people should be able to express their views? Seems like it is ok when they agree with you, but they become a "clown" or a "lunatic" when they disagree or dare to ask a question. Typical of so many new found tolerant democrats on the Brexit side. As people like you say, "it's democracy, get over it..."

 

[rondog1973]

Would sooner stick pins in my eyes than vote tory but actually felt sorry for Theresa May at her conference speech today. Being subject to the latest in a long line of crap pranks by desperately unfunny supposed comedian Simon Brodkin and clearly being affected by it too.

Thought the lettering falling off the background slogan was hilarious though! Reminded me of John Cleese's character at the end of the film Clockwise.

 

[clint van damme]

Would sooner stick pins in my eyes than vote tory but actually felt sorry for Theresa May at her conference speech today. Being subject to the latest in a long line of crap pranks by desperately unfunny supposed comedian Simon Brodkin and clearly being affected by it too.

Thought the lettering falling off the background slogan was hilarious though! Reminded me of John Cleese's character at the end of the film Clockwise.

No way she should be castigated for delivering a speech in the manner she did because she wasn't well but can you imagine if a Labour leader had done that, dacres, murdoch and their ilk would have had a field day.

Doubt they'll give much scrutiny to the extra 15 billion she's suddenly committed to spend or to the energy bill cap that was described as a Marxist policy when Ed Miliband suggested it.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Tories pledge to BUILD council houses...
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.....fucking hell....WTAF....ha ha ha ha...ha ha ha.

 

[skybluegod]

No way she should be castigated for delivering a speech in the manner she did because she wasn't well but can you imagine if a Labour leader had done that, dacres, murdoch and their ilk would have had a field day.

Doubt they'll give much scrutiny to the extra 15 billion she's suddenly committed to spend or to the energy bill cap that was described as a Marxist policy when Ed Miliband suggested it.

Did you not see her BBC interview yesterday? She was absolutely grilled. Yet Corbyn didn’t have any where near the same level of scrutiny.

 

[Grendel]

Did you not see her BBC interview yesterday? She was absolutely grilled. Yet Corbyn didn’t have any where near the same level of scrutiny.

Indeed. The notion the BBC is anything other than a smarmy socialist mouthpiece is not worth discussing.

 

[clint van damme]

Did you not see her BBC interview yesterday? She was absolutely grilled. Yet Corbyn didn’t have any where near the same level of scrutiny.[/QUOTE/]

the old left wing BBC eh?! Haha!

 

[clint van damme]

Indeed. The notion the BBC is anything other than a smarmy socialist mouthpiece is not worth discussing.

the notion that it is is absurd.
Nick Robinson is balls deep in the tory party FFS.
For what it's worth I don't think it's particularly pro tory I think it leans towards the Blairite wing of the Labour party.

 

[skybluegod]

I just don’t think it’s a balanced view. Never said it was left wing. While there is evidence to support that view.
I was saying as a sole case. The difference in the interviews was surprisingly contrasting in tone.

 

[clint van damme]

I just don’t think it’s a balanced view. Never said it was left wing. While there is evidence to support that view.
I was saying as a sole case. The difference in the interviews was surprisingly contrasting in tone.

good attempt at deflecting away from the point I made about the printed medias treatment of Corbyn though.
Wonder how many of the red tops will cover boris's dead bodies in Libya comment?

 

[wingy]

I suggest anyone who thinks the BBC is in cahoots with lefty politics should contrast some of the interviews /pieces conducted by Kunsberg around 18 months ago when the labour party was allegedly falling to pieces.
Then compare to the tone of her pieces this week.

 

[skybluegod]

good attempt at deflecting away from the point I made about the printed medias treatment of Corbyn though.
Wonder how many of the red tops will cover boris's dead bodies in Libya comment?

To be fair to me I was writing my post at the same time you posted yours so I hadn’t seen it.
But again my point stands? I never said it is left winged! I just said that the tone of the interviews are so different.
Well that’s because it’s not really a big issue is it? Well imo it’s not? It’s a bit morbid, but it’s not really important in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Sick Boy]

I suggest anyone who thinks the BBC is in cahoots with lefty politics should contrast some of the interviews /pieces conducted by Kunsberg around 18 months ago when the labour party was allegedly falling to pieces.
Then compare to the tone of her pieces this week.

That's just what someone who is bed with the commie EUSSR BBC would say.

 

[Grendel]

the notion that it is is absurd.
Nick Robinson is balls deep in the tory party FFS.
For what it's worth I don't think it's particularly pro tory I think it leans towards the Blairite wing of the Labour party.

There were over 100 complaints by labour activists accusing Laura Kuensberg of bias against Labour - how many by an independent watchdog were upheld?

Sorry meant to reply to post above.

 

[clint van damme]

To be fair to me I was writing my post at the same time you posted yours so I hadn’t seen it.
But again my point stands? I never said it is left winged! I just said that the tone of the interviews are so different.
Well that’s because it’s not really a big issue is it? Well imo it’s not? It’s a bit morbid, but it’s not really important in the grand scheme of things.

He's foreign secretary for fucks sake not a mischievous teenager! He represents us abroad! This has come hot on the heels of his gaffe in Myanmar.
I would sign on the dotted line to make May PM for the next 10 years rather than let that goon into number 10, he is an absolute liability.

 

[ccfctommy]

There were over 100 complaints by labour activists accusing Laura Kuensberg of bias against Labour - how many by an independent watchdog were upheld?

Sorry meant to reply to post above.

You can also argue the amount of times unelected Farage is on Question Time is disproportionate.

Maybe just maybe the BBC does not have a left/right bias after all?

 

[clint van damme]

There were over 100 complaints by labour activists accusing Laura Kuensberg of bias against Labour - how many by an independent watchdog were upheld?

Sorry meant to reply to post above.

No idea. But I have a preconception of the sort of people who ring up making complaints on any issue they see on telly so I wouldn't be surprised if it's very few.

 

[skybluegod]

He's foreign secretary for fucks sake not a mischievous teenager! He represents us abroad! This has come hot on the heels of his gaffe in Myanmar.
I would sign on the dotted line to make May PM for the next 10 years rather than let that goon into number 10, he is an absolute liability.

Again I don’t really have a massive problem with it. But that my opinion. I think the world is too PC. But I can see why people dislike his comments.

 

[clint van damme]

Again I don’t really have a massive problem with it. But that my opinion. I think the world is too PC. But I can see why people dislike his comments.

If the foreign Secretary of a other country came out with the shit he does they'd be slated by the press here.
He's supposed to be a statesman. He's a spoilt brat, used to getting his own way whose driving his personal leadership agenda when he should be supporting his leader as she steers the country through brexit

 

[skybluegod]

If the foreign Secretary of a other country came out with the shit he does they'd be slated by the press here.
He's supposed to be a statesman. He's a spoilt brat, used to getting his own way whose driving his personal leadership agenda when he should be supporting his leader as she steers the country through brexit

Again, I PERSONALLY don’t see anything wrong with it. I would rather focus on more important things, than criticise someone for an ill timed joke.
As I say I think the world is too PC, and is too easily offended.

Also just to be clear, I don’t think Boris should be in such an important role, and I’m not a particular fan but I just don’t care about some morbid joke he’s made.

What I do find interesting is that you find it so awful that Boris has come out with these comments, yet you support Corbyn who refuses to condemn the IRA?
Or even a few days after the bombing in Manchester he used the attack to pedal political drivel and blame the Tories.

 

[Sick Boy]

Too PC? Imagine if it was a foreign secretary of another country talking about removing dead bodies after the Manchester attack. There would be mass outrage across the country.

Police chiefs were warning that further cuts to the police would be detrimental in preventing terrorism. Or were they just point scoring as well?

 

[clint van damme]

Again, I PERSONALLY don’t see anything wrong with it. I would rather focus on more important things, than criticise someone for an ill timed joke.
As I say I think the world is too PC, and is too easily offended.

Also just to be clear, I don’t think Boris should be in such an important role, and I’m not a particular fan but I just don’t care about some morbid joke he’s made.

What I do find interesting is that you find it so awful that Boris has come out with these comments, yet you support Corbyn who refuses to condemn the IRA?
Or even a few days after the bombing in Manchester he used the attack to pedal political drivel and blame the Tories.

I find everything about Boris awful.
Corbyn did condemn the IRA, albeit it in a round about condemn all violence type comment. Most politicians have some dubious alliances and connections, Theresa is mates with the Saudis as well as just bunging a party with links to the UVF a billion pound.
I don't think Corbyn will ever be in a position where he'll be as much of a danger as Boris is now, he is putting his personal ambition above the good of the country. I appreciate that Corbyn isn't squeaky clean in that respect as his natural position is as a leaver though I do think part of his motivation for his tepid support for remain was trying to hold the party together, Boris's u turn was based on pure naked ambition.

 

[skybluegod]

I find everything about Boris awful.
Corbyn did condemn the IRA, albeit it in a round about condemn all violence type comment. Most politicians have some dubious alliances and connections, Theresa is mates with the Saudis as well as just bunging a party with links to the UVF a billion pound.
I don't think Corbyn will ever be in a position where he'll be as much of a danger as Boris is now, he is putting his personal ambition above the good of the country. I appreciate that Corbyn isn't squeaky clean in that respect as his natural position is as a leaver though I do think part of his motivation for his tepid support for remain was trying to hold the party together, Boris's u turn was based on pure naked ambition.

So he didn’t condemn the IRA? He could literally end all of the debate about it by condemning them but he refuses?
It kind of reminds me of the trump vs white supremacists. He says that he condemns all violent acts on all sides but then the media destroys him for not attacking them directly, because his family has a history of support for white supremacy.
Exactly no politician is clean. As I say I don’t
Particularly like Boris, but if May thought he was such a threat she could just get rid of him. If he wanted to be PM why didn’t he run when Cameron resigned? I think he’s got a loud mouth, but I don’t think he wants to be the conservative leader. I also think his points of view aren’t that bad and he isn’t as stupid as many make out. But again, I don’t really care about what he says. It’s what this government does not what this one man does.
Think the conservatives speeches have gone quite well all things considered, even May, after the initial harsh start did quite well.

 

[clint van damme]

So he didn’t condemn the IRA? He could literally end all of the debate about it by condemning them but he refuses?
It kind of reminds me of the trump vs white supremacists. He says that he condemns all violent acts on all sides but then the media destroys him for not attacking them directly, because his family has a history of support for white supremacy.
Exactly no politician is clean. As I say I don’t
Particularly like Boris, but if May thought he was such a threat she could just get rid of him. If he wanted to be PM why didn’t he run when Cameron resigned? I think he’s got a loud mouth, but I don’t think he wants to be the conservative leader. I also think his points of view aren’t that bad and he isn’t as stupid as many make out. But again, I don’t really care about what he says. It’s what this government does not what this one man does.
Think the conservatives speeches have gone quite well all things considered, even May, after the initial harsh start did quite well.

if May sacks him that clears the way for a leadership challenge. One might even suggest that he is trying to get sacked.
He was running for leadership when Cameron resigned but got fucked over by Gove throwing his hat into the leadership race but I believe they've now kissed and made up and Gove would back him.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So he didn’t condemn the IRA?

He did.

 

[torchomatic]

Tories pledge to BUILD council houses...
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.....fucking hell....WTAF....ha ha ha ha...ha ha ha.

And Amber Rudd has the fucking cheek to say that people will have a right to buy these new council houses too!

 

[torchomatic]

Or even a few days after the bombing in Manchester he used the attack to pedal political drivel and blame the Tories.

Who cut police numbers by 20K? A one word answer will suffice.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

And Amber Rudd has the fucking cheek to say that people will have a right to buy these new council houses too!

Thus proving they are not actually council houses at all.......just another method of re-distributing public money to private companies.....

I have to confess I did enjoy one aspect of Theresa Mays speech.......the bit where she nearly choked.....

 

[Grendel]

He did.

In the same way trump condemned the white supremacists.

 

[skybluegod]

Who cut police numbers by 20K? A one word answer will suffice.

Good argument that- ‘i’ll Make a simplistic response, and you can only respond with one word, so that you can’t provide evidence against it’.

Which government fucked up our economy to the extent that austerity was necessary! A one word answer will suffice.

I’m not saying police cuts are good. But terror attacks happened well before police cuts? So it’s a bit of a ridiculous argument. It could have happened at any time anywhere, and until you can provide inconclusive proof that the security at the stadium was down to police NUMBERS, and nothing else then it’s not really a good argument is it?

 

[skybluegod]

He did.

Where?

 

[skybluegod]

if May sacks him that clears the way for a leadership challenge. One might even suggest that he is trying to get sacked.
He was running for leadership when Cameron resigned but got fucked over by Gove throwing his hat into the leadership race but I believe they've now kissed and made up and Gove would back him.

One might but one might suggest that he’s not?
Yes but he has constantly backed thressa May. If he doesn’t back her, when asked he could just avoid the question but he constantly and consistently has thrown his weight behind her.