SkyblueBazza
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Then you either don't go or keep schtum imo
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Booing of team... some thoughts (9 Viewers)
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oscillatewildly
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Booing - It's just a form of cathartic feedback. Get over it. (No toddlers or automobiles were harmed in the expression of this view.)
shmmeee
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That negatively impacts the team.
Not sure what you’re after, but I quite like City playing well and winning.
When has a player ever, ever said that they were motivated by their own fans booing them?
shmmeee
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This is irrational. Booing increases the chances of future money being wasted on watching another shit performance. You are literally making the situation you’re complaining about worse. Where’s Alanis Morrisette when you need her?
And if you think parents don’t spend money on their kids, I really don’t know what to say.
oscillatewildly
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Well, they're hardly ever likely to, are they? But maybe, just maybe the thought of the previous weeks response to an abysmal performance may act as the catalyst to ensuring it wasn't followed up the following week!
I can't prove this of course, but neither can you disprove it.
Just to reiterate: I didn't take pleasure on the extremely rare occasion I have shown vocal displeasure and safe in the knowledge that my (at times solo) support is second to none but I have no problem 'telling it how it is'.
Hobo
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I can understand frustrated booing at the end of a game or first half. But to single individuals out or for it to be a first resort in mid game is futile. Surely a roar of supportive passion is more likely to lift and galvanize a team?
I am sure there was a case in the sixties or seventies where an opposing player missed a one on one because the Liverpool Kop spontaneously sprung into life as he was about to pull the trigger.
Players don't deliberately play badly. Perhaps fans should start booing negative supporters? That might be more fun!
I am sure there was a case in the sixties or seventies where an opposing player missed a one on one because the Liverpool Kop spontaneously sprung into life as he was about to pull the trigger.
Players don't deliberately play badly. Perhaps fans should start booing negative supporters? That might be more fun!
Adge
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What are you talking about parents not spending money on their kids?
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue
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I think there’s a time to boo but lots of the time it’s not appropriate. If a forward misses a couple of chances, booing them and shouting you’re shite, isn’t going to encourage them in the slightest.
Ill always remember what happened with Dele Adebola at first, could see his confidence crumbling game-by-game. He went on loan to Bradford, played well and scored some goals, came back to us, full of confidence and power and when the fans got behind him he was a completely different player!
Don’t get me wrong though, when the team put in a gutless, pathetic performance, then collectively the boos are just!
NortonSkyBlue
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I am torn on this subject, IMO fans shouldn't be passive and let the team(any team) get away with lack of effort.
We have the right to expect effort from players wearing our shirt and the right to express our displeasure when they fail to meet those basic standards.
I was pleased the fans didn't boo on Saturday and also noted that Barnet fans were applauding their team for their stoical performance.
I have seen players hide in the past and basically appear to short change the team and it is right that they are called out if that is the case.
I can stomach getting beaten but I can't abide players appearing not to try and not to care.
We have the right to expect effort from players wearing our shirt and the right to express our displeasure when they fail to meet those basic standards.
I was pleased the fans didn't boo on Saturday and also noted that Barnet fans were applauding their team for their stoical performance.
I have seen players hide in the past and basically appear to short change the team and it is right that they are called out if that is the case.
I can stomach getting beaten but I can't abide players appearing not to try and not to care.
dongonzalos
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Booing a team is dumb.
Classic cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me
Classic cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me
Liquid Gold
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Another analogy would be an employee of yours is under performing. What you could do is tell them they are brilliant and give them a pay rise (cheering and clapping them no matter the performance) or you bring them in for a chat and tell them that their performance is unacceptable and needs to be improved (booing).
FWIW I cant stand people booing during the game or getting on player's backs, this would definitely make things worse. But I don't get applauding truly terrible performances either. Get behind the team during the whole 90 minutes and if they are consistently terrible then let them know after 90 minutes.
There was no reason to boo at Barnet because, although the game was shit, there was no lack of effort from the players. Chesterfield was a different matter because we'd lost the previous two and just drawn against bottom of the league, all three games we looked like we had no creativity, idea of how to break a team down or passion in what we were doing. No reason not to tell players that they need to improve after that.
FWIW I cant stand people booing during the game or getting on player's backs, this would definitely make things worse. But I don't get applauding truly terrible performances either. Get behind the team during the whole 90 minutes and if they are consistently terrible then let them know after 90 minutes.
There was no reason to boo at Barnet because, although the game was shit, there was no lack of effort from the players. Chesterfield was a different matter because we'd lost the previous two and just drawn against bottom of the league, all three games we looked like we had no creativity, idea of how to break a team down or passion in what we were doing. No reason not to tell players that they need to improve after that.
skyblueinBaku
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I think that absolute silence as the fans leave the stadium would be just as effective.
dongonzalos
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Totally agree with this
Covstu
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With 7k in the stadium we get that regardless
Adge
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Yep, the majority of last season I would say.
Hobo
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Yes you are just booing the gladiators......but then you are also booing ordinary people like Kris Kirkland and Danny Swanson. Think about it.
oscillatewildly
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I just did, wish I hadn't. What on earth is the point you're trying to get across?
shmmeee
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It’s nothing like a quiet chat in private, that’s one of the poorest analogies I’ve read on this site. It’s loud, public, indiscriminate and lacking in any constructive nature.
There’s fucking psychological research all over the place on motivating people and not one bit of it recommends booing them in public FFS. It’s not rocket science.
You said football was different (from parenting) because fans have spent time and money on it, implying parents don’t spend time and money on their kids.
There’s fucking psychological research all over the place on motivating people and not one bit of it recommends booing them in public FFS. It’s not rocket science.
You said football was different (from parenting) because fans have spent time and money on it, implying parents don’t spend time and money on their kids.
Adge
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Ok-and what has that got to do with a kid tripping up?:emoji_thinking:
clint van damme
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certain sections of our support have to have a boo boy. If we got to the latter stages of the Champions League they'd still be singling someone out, it's like a disease.
Hobo
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Two players (and there are many more) whose careers have been blighted by depression. We have all heard the term football is a confidence game and it is. Nobody seems to care when the collective 'we' suck the confidence out of a player. I understand the customers right to collectively boo a team's performance. But rounding on individuals needs more thought. We get sucked into the football star figure and forget these people are just people like me and you, with emotions and feelings. Booing individuals doesn't make them better players; but it can have a massive impact on their lives and their families.
oscillatewildly
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In every walk of life (and certainly in the 'work place') 'criticism' whether justified or not is something we will all experience. I've not read the whole piece on Chris Kirkland but there seems to be an assumption that his condition was caused or possibly exacerbated by negativity to some of his performances?
Has he acknowledged or have people considered he may have carried depression or symptoms throughout his life and not just encountered them at the end of his playing career? Like I say - I haven't read the whole piece.
Sport is a very passionate 'arena' both on and off the field and I think there can be an over placement of too many extra delicate egg shells to be traversed.
It's a shitty juncture you reach when you decide to show disapproval to a certain (collective) performance as a supporter of that team, but to counter the disdain do we really believe these players don't have within their 'locker' the ability to grow a pair?
I'm with you entirely on the issue of targeting individuals.
Two things on this...
1) do the best managers out there, get the best out of their players by protecting them, putting a " it was my fault" cloak around them when things are shit & in private either put an arm round them and offer reassurance / or pull them in for a one to one and find out what the issue is.... or by pulling them out onto the pitch at half time and letting everyone in the stadium know just how shit you think they are ( Phil brown style )
2) does it help when we groan & shout get him off when a players weakness is exposed - such as lee burge's kicking, or when he was too nervous to step more than 3 feet off his line ... for both of the above a crowd behind me would jeer and shout "get him off" .... or is it better to give positive encouragement & let the coaches do their job with the squad we have, And bear in mind that his shot stopping was just as important in winning us the cup as George & Biggies goals!!!
Lack of effort - give it a " come on city"
Bad day at the office - we all have em, get over yourself
1) do the best managers out there, get the best out of their players by protecting them, putting a " it was my fault" cloak around them when things are shit & in private either put an arm round them and offer reassurance / or pull them in for a one to one and find out what the issue is.... or by pulling them out onto the pitch at half time and letting everyone in the stadium know just how shit you think they are ( Phil brown style )
2) does it help when we groan & shout get him off when a players weakness is exposed - such as lee burge's kicking, or when he was too nervous to step more than 3 feet off his line ... for both of the above a crowd behind me would jeer and shout "get him off" .... or is it better to give positive encouragement & let the coaches do their job with the squad we have, And bear in mind that his shot stopping was just as important in winning us the cup as George & Biggies goals!!!
Lack of effort - give it a " come on city"
Bad day at the office - we all have em, get over yourself
Adge
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Having an opinion on individuals good or bad (jeez we've had some bad ones!) isn't wrong and the general consensus seems to be it's how to express it is the issue. Calling out and booing an individual (during a game) would in my opinion be counterproductive. Collectively, booing a team who haven't performed or tried ( as was demonstrated numerous times on the pitch last season by the majority of players) I can't see a problem with. Anyone who thought that on the whole,last season,that the team didn't deserve to be taken to task really wants their heads looking at(pardon the pun).