The Duke (18 Viewers)
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Nick
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So again, I make plenty of posts nothing to do with you. Yet a large chunk of yours are desperately trying to prove me and a couple of others wrong about anything you can.
You've "Fed off my posts" for years.
When you reply to my post, I reply back. It's very rare you actually understand what the thread is actually about and have an interest in the discussion.
You do realise that don't you?
dongonzalos
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Very good finish by McNulty.
No question.
The more he finishes like that the more Duck will pass instead of shooting.
Genuinely hope he keeps it up and proves me wrong.
Sky Blue Kid
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Read my posts. I gave my opinion on a gif which opposed your view.. Grow the fuck up and get over it.
Esoterica
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Duck will be dropped again and used as an impact sub before that happens. There's no way Robins will put up with a level of arrogance/selfishness that costs us points while Duck decides if McNulty is worth passing to.
covcity4life
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robins has said he wont fine him as long as he stays till end of season, safe to say he rates him
also think it would be wise not to take fan opinion as fact, i very much doubt duck decides who and who isnt worth passing too, lets not hold that against him!
also think it would be wise not to take fan opinion as fact, i very much doubt duck decides who and who isnt worth passing too, lets not hold that against him!
better days
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Spot on
better days
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I think you're right that Robins rates him. So do I
Duke just has to become more of a team player
If he does that the sky's the limit for him
covcity4life
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agree. your post should be final word on the thread tbh
Liquid Gold
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It was glaringly obvious 10 minutes in on Saturday that Nazon was only playing for himself. My girlfriend even said something along the lines of "I like Nazon because he scores some good goals but he's greedy and we'd be winning if he wasn't wasting chances". I imagine things changed 2nd half because Robins told him he has to be on the lookout for better options.
Those two highlighted chances where McNulty is making the run are perfect examples of why we're not scoring goals. Nazon either doesn't have the composure to make it as a player above league 2 or he's selfish which is no good for the team. I do like him as a player because he adds an extra dimension to our play, particularly with Jones out but he has to make better decisions in front of goal (or 25 yards out as the case may be) or I feel he's better used as an impact sub.
On another note the more I watch a fit McNulty the more I like him. He makes great runs and I feel if Andreu hasn't got injured McNulty would be in double figures for the season already. He also scores a goal every 242 minutes of play, spread that over the full season and you end up with 17 goals.
Those two highlighted chances where McNulty is making the run are perfect examples of why we're not scoring goals. Nazon either doesn't have the composure to make it as a player above league 2 or he's selfish which is no good for the team. I do like him as a player because he adds an extra dimension to our play, particularly with Jones out but he has to make better decisions in front of goal (or 25 yards out as the case may be) or I feel he's better used as an impact sub.
On another note the more I watch a fit McNulty the more I like him. He makes great runs and I feel if Andreu hasn't got injured McNulty would be in double figures for the season already. He also scores a goal every 242 minutes of play, spread that over the full season and you end up with 17 goals.
stupot07
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dongonzalos
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I may be wrong but I really get the feeling you may not have been a decent footballer in your time.
Nick
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How does that relate to what he said?
He doesn't even look up most of the time, so all of this "he has a look and sees they arent top scorers and doesn't bother" stuff is nonsense.
Otis
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Nope, he doesn't decide who is or isn't worth passing to so just decides to not pass to anyone.
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dongonzalos
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How does that relate to what he said?
Just having a understanding of the psychology of a footballer and a football team as a whole.
I get the same feeling regarding yourself.
You don’t really understand that when you have a striker smashing in goals left right and centre. As a team you more naturally feed the balm to him more often than not. As that is mainly how you win games.
It’s like when you have a top midfielder who dictates your play. When they demand the ball they generally get it.
Players naturally try and find them more as what they do with the ball once they get it, usually helps win you the game.
It’s both a pycological thing where it is drilled into from the coaching staff to find that striker as much as possible. However even without that coaching it will be your unconscious psychology to look for that striker. Effectively you do it without even realising.
At the moment the Duck has scored more than McNulty is unconscious and conscious psychology tells him to back himself first.
More finishes from McNulty like the other day.
Or in the future a striker who is clearly better at finishing than the Duck. It will change.
That’s all I am going to say on this as you won’t get what I am saying and won’t ever accept so I am not going to debate it for hours.
The playing bit, means you are more likely to get it as you experience it and see it in action.
You will have seen in action countless times with Robbie Keane, Dublin, Mcallister.
More recently with DMC.
Also on telly with Shearer Gascoigne ect....
covcity4life
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he assisted a goal on saturday...
Otis
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He did. I can only assume it was after a right ear bashing at half time and the manager telling him in no uncertain terms to do so.
Funnily enough, there was another opportunity in the second half when I think he SHOULD have shot, but he didn't.
Would tie in. His teammates really bawl him out at times.
Nick
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It's bollocks, he doesn't even look to see who he is passing to and where they are.
What happens if McNulty gets another goal and is then equal, will he have to stand there and toss a coin to see who will be better at finishing?
Also you need to consider positioning, it isn't as if Duck has scored shed loads from 40 yards so backs himself every time to score over playing somebody clean through. It is like saying we should let Duck take free kicks because he has scored more goals, rather than Shipley who has 1 from a free kick. McNulty has scored more from in the box than Duck has from 40 yards...
What next, Duck shooting from the half way line every time being OK as he has scored more than other players around him?
It doesn't explain why other strikers pass to other strikers in better positions who have scored less?
Do we think Biamou played McNulty and Duke in against Luton because they had scored more? Or was it because they were making runs and in much better positions to be able to score than he was?
Esoterica
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I think you just imagine stuff and suddenly it becomes true for you.
Maybe Duck should do MR's recruiting of your guaranteed 20 goal a season striker in January because if it's someone Duck doesn't fancy passing to because he's got 0 goals for us then we'll be screwed.
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covcity4life
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ok so you were wrong when you said he doesnt pass at all, didnt need the rest of your babble
the end
Otis
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He doesn't pass. It clearly evident from the clips and what we have witnessed.
Having to have a bollocking off the manager (if that is the case) before he does so is clearly not the way to go.
He clearly doesn't think about passing at all and his initial thought process is to take it on himself and shoot from whatever angle and however far out.
covcity4life
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you have no idea at all what was said by MR during half time you clown.
lets deal in facts. you said he never passes at all,i pointed out he did and it led to a goal
stop looking for caveats. shut up and stop looking to add to your post count for no reason 247
Otis
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Ha!
None of us know what Robins said, that's why I said 'if'. He didn't pass in the first half and then did in the second half and in the first half his teammates were shouting at him for not passing.
Would be rather amiss for Robins not to have a go about him not passing it wouldn't it?
I would certainly think less of him as a manager if he didn't bring it up.
McNulty had two clear runs on goal if Nazon had have passed.
covcity4life
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why are you going over old ground? to get a like? this is nothing to do with wether he passes enough or not
you made a statement that was incorrect, i corrected you.
move on
you made a statement that was incorrect, i corrected you.
move on
Otis
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I have never ever been bothered by likes. Serves no purpose for me whatsoever.
I obviously (as any sensible person would understand) didn't mean he never, ever passes, ever. Clearly no player ever in history has never not passed.
It's clearly a figure of speech and we all do it day in day out on here.
'Burge never commands his area,' 'Haynes never gets stuck in,' Jones is always too greedy,' Beavon never, ever scores,' 'we always struggle when we go a goal down,' Doyle can't pass.'
Surely you can see that can't you. It's a football forum.
I obviously didn't mean he never, EVER passes.
As a rule of thumb he is 'always' seemingly trying to score all by himself.
ccfcway
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- agreed
- don't agree
- dont agree
- wiki agrees
- not this season
- don't agree
Otis
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So you saying that Beavon's goals need to come off his stats list?
ccfcway
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So you saying that Beavon's goals need to come off his stats list?
110 game and 14 goals in the past 4 years. For a striker, an average of 4 a season has to be almost "never ever"
Eddie Johnson's record with us was better
Otis
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Strangely enough his long raking passes are a lot more accurate than his short ones for some reason.
covcity4life
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This is a new high for me. Got otis moaning about posters being pedantic
Otis
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You get high very easily don't you.
Otis
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That's SOME of his long passes of course, not ALL of them.
stupot07
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Yes, you are wrong, but it matters not one jot. This is professional football, not Christ the King U9's, or the dog and trumpet Sunday league reserves, which is the level of mentality/psyche your suggesting nazon has.
Others have responded in more detail so I will leave it there.
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