Skyblueweeman
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Someone's been playing too much Football Manager ;-)
Transfer Rumour Apparently close to signing 2 players (32 Viewers)
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steve82
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I wish I had the time, time off work means I do more.... I relax and have time at work
I think I put forward a sensible case for Davies to play ahead of Willis, if Mcdonald is fit and playing. It's not a hate/dislike motivated thing
You want to cover as much as you can in attributes that each individual you bring. What Davies offers we don't have.
covcity4life
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Thanks for asking my position on the two and being reasonable in your asking
Is Davies the better player of the two? Honest answer is no possibility not.
Neither are the complete player hence there playing in L2, both have different strengths and bad points to there games or attributes they lack which could hold them back.
However I believe Davies attributes suit L2 better currently than Willis, and would compliment Mcdonald and the back 4 better currently, yet I think Willis could be a valued squad player higher up the leagues with improvement along side a better defenders and one who commands the line. Willis has pace and a good physic which clubs would look at and take a gamble on him as he's fairly experienced now on the game too where as Davies don't seem as quick
Willis you'd back against anyone toe to toe, Davies you'd question. In the air, Davies all day... Willis this really isn't his game tho against some players copes.
At marking Willis let's himself down from time to time and seems to switch off, a few times his mans slipped away at vital moments this season alone, ibehere, Rhead, and now Eisa all done just that. Davies demonstrates a better man marking ability and able to deal with physical players who back in, elbows up... the old tricks.
As I say, Davies suits the level we're at and the direct nature of L2, Willis gets exposed in these aspects. Now we're heading into winter sides become more direct... time to play Davies who offers more defensively and offensively at this level at this time of year with the players we have at our disposal.
Good points and i agree on some
However i would say Willis has been a regular in best defence in FL(not sure if it still is) and has helped us get 7th place currently and just 4 pts of autos so why change him now? can we really be sure davies will be better over the coming months?
My final point would be we only want to be in this league for 1 year, then as robins has outlined before we want to get out of league 1 asap. Willis is the sort of player i would want to keep as it saves us having to recruit an athletic CB next season if we hopfully get promoted.
That said i like what i have seen of davies and happy to see him play, i just hope if he does willis is on the bench or alongside him rather than sold.
steve82
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Again the points you make for him to remain in the side or not sold are fair.
His part on the defence who were keeping clean sheets and great start the side made gave MR no issues, the back 4 pick it's self so Davies wouldn't be selected.
Injuries and suspensions have given him chance to show what he can offer and like I say the weathers changing, pitches will deteriorate and sides generally go long. It suits Davies better in my eyes and he offers more.
If he's the only real saleable asset we have to strengthen then it's a case of so be it, no lace for sentiment in business. Sure he's put some good performances in the first half of the season to warrant interest.
I think we can cope just as comfortably without him in the second half of the season.
As for next season for L1/L2 preparations I'd be showing strong interest in Ben Richards-Everton at Accrington. Local lad too entering the last 6 months of his contract.
superskyblue
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David Cotterill has left Birmingham.
steve82
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Really? If we land him we're back on track. Exciting times in 2018.
He will have plenty of offers tho
dongonzalos
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Apart from my obsession it does make sense for him to go on loan.
He was just starting to get a bit of playing time in the real game.
For him and hopefully for us it’s is important that continues.
It’s also a real shame for DKE after last season that he is now no longer developing.
dongonzalos
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Has MR said the two signings that are nearly done are loans?
coterell should be championship or a minimum league 1.
coterell should be championship or a minimum league 1.
covcity4life
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fair enough. i agree akinfenwa scares shit out of me so wouldnt mind seeing davies tonight. if ROD is fit play 3 at back and all 3 man mark akinfenwa lol
Nick
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Why do you want to see Davies tonight? You are following Jones round town and want a late night visit from Davies?
covcity4life
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Why do you want to see Davies tonight? You are following Jones round town and want a late night visit from Davies?
jones is great an all but sometimes you just need a big rugged man
Nick
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steve82
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We've Micky Doyle.... he will keep him in check on his manor
fernandopartridge
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I'd be really really surprised if we signed Cotterill, League One at lowest for a player of his calibre and wage!
Nick
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It is wishful thinking, in theory he is everything we are lacking at the minute.
Might have to start begging him like people do with Baker.
dongonzalos
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Personally I think that would be a very good thing. Particularly for Dion I was looking forward to seeing how he progressed this season. If you don’t get chance to progress at the division 4 stage that is a bit worrying.
I loved his passion, tenacity and pace.
It would be great if he could secure a loan to another league to 2 side
fernandopartridge
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Mixed assessments on the Blues forum of him, bit like here really when a player leaves, he's either brilliant or dreadful.
RoboCCFC90
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Interesting quote on Blues' website;
"Cotterill, 30, was due to be out of contract this summer and as he is not in Manager Steve Cotterill's long-term plans, this move allows him the opportunity to get fixed up elsewhere earlier"
So he was due to leave in January and is now being the opportunity to move on now, intriguing..
RoboCCFC90
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He was out of contract in the summer, that's correct.
My only concern now is that the player being available on a free might interest other Clubs, however I am hoping that doesn't stop him from joining Cov.
As the rumour goes it was very close, so I am sure the player would be aware of our interest, Birmingham I am sure are doing this to get the player off the wage bill as he has no future there and this solution suits them.
With the player now being out of contract he doesn't have to wait until January, he could sign today or tomorrow.
RoboCCFC90
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If he signed today he wouldn’t have to wait until January to play.
You’d think or hope (with the player having featured on the bench at Blues) that there would be some degree of match fitness, although we may not see the best of him immediately.
Nick
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I thought he would as it was outside the window? Has that rule been changed?
He was on the bench for them not so long ago so would surely count as featuring for them.
Esoterica
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Entirely speculation but I wonder if he'd been originally allowed to move on loan for the remainder of his contract ahead of a permanent move somewhere else in the summer and so he wanted to stay local, with us fitting the bill but that now with the cancellation of his contract he can move permanently somewhere now and look further afield with us missing out. I'd be absolutely floored if we were able to pull off that signing on a permanent basis.
RoboCCFC90
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On the bench at the weekend I believe.
If a player is unattached (as Cotterill now is) they can sign outside the window and feature at any time, of a player is contracted to a Club and agrees a deal with another Club outside the window then he must wait until he window reopens.
RoboCCFC90
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It makes you wonder if by Birmingham doing this the player will have other options that might suit him financially and professionally.
steve82
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The Kelly Evans twins development has stalled more so for Dion than Devon a loan spell is best for them all.
Question is tho where's best? Usually they go to conference sides or national league north which was always 2/3 leagues or more lower. Tho our decline matches Nuneaton's again.
From the outside looking in Nuneaton could still looks to be a good place to play and learn. There battling relegation so the performance weekly means something to the side and others in the team already. They'd need to battle that's for sure. I'm guessing they're part time so could train here still and link up with Nuneaton for there sessions, leamington too.
Or is a play off push with Tamworth under Andy Morrell be better rather than a dog fight or is national League north too low where very few clubs are full time. Is a full time conference club better suited where they may or may not play a lot but train differently and further away to help develop there confidence, personality more and grow as young men.
Lots of deciding factors to help develop what is our duty too do.
Nick
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I thought they couldn't play if it was outside the window and they had played for the original club? It happened with Dean Cox I think where it was just outside the window so had to wait for months to play so went non league.
Esoterica
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He's been shut out at Crawley. Only played 4 times this season and Kewell hinting at workrate and attitude issues.
Where is Dean Cox?
Otis
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We're nearly non league so it's fine.
Mucca Mad Boys
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When you consider that last season two of them automatically promoted teams top scorer didn’t manage 15 goals... And we have two players on 8 goals and it’s not even Xmas yet - I think I’m going to disagree.
We still have the best defence in the league - despite what I’d consider a bad spell for us - so changing that really is really, really stupid.
Mild-Mannered Janitor
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For me, Willis and Davies all day long, Rod has had higher stock rating from some because he is new and Willis is tainted by former seasons and mixed positions, I thought Rod was out of position for their goal last Saturday and struggled positionally throughout the first half.