Player ratings (4 Viewers)

pastythegreat

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6 all around,
Except a 6.5 for Willis, 5s for Kelly and Doyle and a 4 for Barrett. Maybe a 6.5 for Haynes as he actually tried to get forward and make things happen after he came on.

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pusbccfc

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Burge - 5: Distribution was woeful again. Has no idea where the ball is going to go when he kicks it. Dodgy mistake with the defence in the first half.

Grimmer - N/A

Willis - 5: Fantastic block after that mistake in the first half, but definitely not his best. Disappointing considering his recent upturn in form.

Davies - 5.5: Gutted he is injured, our best CB.

Stokes - 4.5: Not great. That shot in the second half was pathetic. Its literally becoming a weekly occurrence for Stokes to hit a shot over the stand.

Bayliss - 6.5: Only one who looked to create anything. Had a brilliant run in the second half where he took on a number of FGR players.

Kelly - 2: An absolute dire performance. Completely lost the midfield.

Doyle - 3.5: Worst I have seen Doyle play. The amount of simple passes he failed to complete was poor.

Barratt - 2: Shocking. One decent effort in the first half. Rest of the game he was sluggish, poor in possession and kept hitting the first man with his corners. There is a good player there, his touch is very sharp, but he needs to get settled and know what is expected of him.

McNulty - 6: Worked hard, had a good effort saved in the first half and scored a penalty.

Biamou - 4: Not his best game, came up against a more physical defender. Definitely shouldn't have been taken off.

Subs:
Rod - 5: his distribution out of defence is as bad as Burge.

JCH - 5: Wonderful technique on a free kick and looked decent in the air. Can see him starting next week.

Haynes - 5: Didn't think he did too bad when he came on. Certainly more direct than Barratt and Stokes.
 

Londonccfcfan

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Burge 5.5
Grimmer n/a
Willis 7
Davies 5
Stokes 4.5
Barrat 5
Kelly 5
Doyle 5
Bayliss 7
McNulty 7
Biamou 5

McDonald 6
JCH 5.5
Haynes 6

Way too many below par performances.
 

Adge

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6 all around,
Except a 6.5 for Willis, 5s for Kelly and Doyle and a 4 for Barrett. Maybe a 6.5 for Haynes as he actually tried to get forward and make things happen after he came on.

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Haynes done 1 good run and then went hiding instead of demanding the ball and imposing his fresh legs on the opposition. Poor poor player.
 

SAJ

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Have to agree with the markings pusbccfc gave. With the exception of a couple Bayliss and McNulty we were pathetic. It was as bad as Accrington and Morecambe.
 

eastwoodsdustman

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I actually felt sorry for Kelly today. Doyle had his worst game that I can remember and never got near to the ball for 25 minutes in the first half. Kelly was trying to play for both of them with little success. Doyle only started to play and get on the ball in the last 10 minutes or so.
 

Adge

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Burge 5 Got the jitters again in the first 30 mins.
Grimmer 5 Ok till he went off but final ball again a let down.
Stokes 5 Carried on from where he left off on Tuesday and kept giving the ball away again.
Davies 6 Won the headers as usual.
Willis 5 Had to switch to right back but looked uncomfortable there.
Kelly 5 Was involved a lot but involved in a lot of giving the ball away usually around the centre circle.
Doyle 5 Is heavily strapped and only at 75% but too similar to Kelly.
Bayliss 6 Not great but at least tried to do the right thing by going forward.
Barrett 4 Just don’t see what he offers-anonymous most of the time especially 2nd half.
Biamou 5 Not his day and correctly taken off.
McNulty 6 Was the only one who looked likely, at least made the keeper make a save and good penalty but was trying to feed off scraps.
McDonald 5 Not the same player as earlier in the season-kept hoofing it forward without any purpose.
Clark Harris 5 Probably tried too hard to make a point.
Haynes 4 Thought he would grab the bull by the horns and make an impact and had 1 good run straight away, then decided to go hiding instead of demanding the ball with his fresh legs etc.

Robins 3 Picked the wrong team for me by trying to shoehorn Kelly in. Seemed like a bit of an old pals act.
 

Skyblueol

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I don’t see what Kelly offers to the team at all. We have no threat in the middle of the park when Doyle and Kelly are playing together. I don’t see why Shipley was dropped he is twice the player Barratt is. Haynes is much better then Stokes. Yesterday’s game could be the game that decides our season I’m hoping it wasn’t but losing 3 defenders to injury and losing to a side near the bottom of the league where we effectively looked like the side struggling for relegation. I want to see a positive team selection on Saturday from Robins. No Kelly please.
 

Otis

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I don’t see what Kelly offers to the team at all. We have no threat in the middle of the park when Doyle and Kelly are playing together. I don’t see why Shipley was dropped he is twice the player Barratt is. Haynes is much better then Stokes. Yesterday’s game could be the game that decides our season I’m hoping it wasn’t but losing 3 defenders to injury and losing to a side near the bottom of the league where we effectively looked like the side struggling for relegation. I want to see a positive team selection on Saturday from Robins. No Kelly please.
Shipley has been struggling with tiredness though. Understandable as to why he was rested.
 

Esoterica

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I don’t see what Kelly offers to the team at all. We have no threat in the middle of the park when Doyle and Kelly are playing together. I don’t see why Shipley was dropped he is twice the player Barratt is. Haynes is much better then Stokes. Yesterday’s game could be the game that decides our season I’m hoping it wasn’t but losing 3 defenders to injury and losing to a side near the bottom of the league where we effectively looked like the side struggling for relegation. I want to see a positive team selection on Saturday from Robins. No Kelly please.
Haynes is much better than Stokes at what? It sure isn't defending or positioning on the pitch. Without Shipley in front of him you simply can't play Haynes at left back as he's a liability there with no cover- he can't/won't tackle or head the ball.
Kelly is a much better all-round footballer than Doyle is, he lacked match sharpness yesterday but Doyle was anonymous and I assume playing within himself due to injury, making Kelly look worse than he really was. If Doyle isn't 100% then Kelly should start in that role on Saturday with Bayliss back central and we'll see how much better our midfield is with 2 players who can pass in there.
Do agree regarding the positive team selection on Saturday though, Robins got it horribly wrong yesterday and I was annoyed that we had so many injuries for him to hide behind instead of owning the issues.
 

Otis

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Haynes is much better than Stokes at what? It sure isn't defending or positioning on the pitch. Without Shipley in front of him you simply can't play Haynes at left back as he's a liability there with no cover- he can't/won't tackle or head the ball.
Kelly is a much better all-round footballer than Doyle is, he lacked match sharpness yesterday but Doyle was anonymous and I assume playing within himself due to injury, making Kelly look worse than he really was. If Doyle isn't 100% then Kelly should start in that role on Saturday with Bayliss back central and we'll see how much better our midfield is with 2 players who can pass in there.
Do agree regarding the positive team selection on Saturday though, Robins got it horribly wrong yesterday and I was annoyed that we had so many injuries for him to hide behind instead of owning the issues.
Yeah, I don't get the Haynes is better than Stokes either. Stokes is far more solid a defender to my eyes.
 

torchomatic

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We have got right back sorted with Grimmer. It will have to wait until the summer unfortunately but we need a left back. Stokes and Haynes aren't up to the job.
 

Adge

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Stokes for me the better option when it comes to defending. Haynes is.......well, just Haynes.
 

torchomatic

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Disagree. Stokes is a perfectly competent left back. Solid defensively, not brilliant going forward but his solidity makes up for it. Camwell is his replacement in time.

Each to their own. For me he is too slow, prone to mistakes and his passing is shocking most of the time.
 

Warwickhunt

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I felt as if Stokes was carrying an injury when he started hence the reason why Haynes was on the bench but the injury to Daniels bollixed up MRS tactics
 

Warwickhunt

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Shipley has been struggling with tiredness though. Understandable as to why he was rested.
He is a young strong athlete and if anyone is suffering tiredness it should be Doyle. You only have to look at Bayliss when he walks off the pitch all the games he has played does not seem to have made him tired
 

no_loyalty

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Each to their own. For me he is too slow, prone to mistakes and his passing is shocking most of the time.

He seems a fairly solid defender, but agree his distribution is awful
 

Warwickhunt

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I personally think a lot of players are carrying knocks and bruises and three matches in 7 days will cause us problems because MR will not rest some key players . He should recall Camwell as he would certainly cover Stokes for a while. Quite agree with posters on here that Haynes is not a true full back
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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I personally think a lot of players are carrying knocks and bruises and three matches in 7 days will cause us problems because MR will not rest some key players . He should recall Camwell as he would certainly cover Stokes for a while. Quite agree with posters on here that Haynes is not a true full back

He’s not out on loan anymore
 

Otis

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I felt as if Stokes was carrying an injury when he started hence the reason why Haynes was on the bench but the injury to Daniels bollixed up MRS tactics
Daniels is injured as well?

Wow! That IS a curse. Players who are not even on our books are getting injured for us now.
 

Warwickhunt

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Daniels is injured as well?

Wow! That IS a curse. Players who are not even on our books are getting injured for us now.
Fi
forgive my error I meant Davies is out with a collar bone break. It all to do with my age Otis and watching city for 55 years+ it addled the brain unfortunately
 

wingy

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I personally think a lot of players are carrying knocks and bruises and three matches in 7 days will cause us problems because MR will not rest some key players . He should recall Camwell as he would certainly cover Stokes for a while. Quite agree with posters on here that Haynes is not a true full back
Agree ,have been suggesting he should be involved with the group, think we used Maycock there for a few games nearer the start of the season.
 

Legia Sky Blue

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Haynes is much better than Stokes at what? It sure isn't defending or positioning on the pitch. Without Shipley in front of him you simply can't play Haynes at left back as he's a liability there with no cover- he can't/won't tackle or head the ball.
Kelly is a much better all-round footballer than Doyle is, he lacked match sharpness yesterday but Doyle was anonymous and I assume playing within himself due to injury, making Kelly look worse than he really was. If Doyle isn't 100% then Kelly should start in that role on Saturday with Bayliss back central and we'll see how much better our midfield is with 2 players who can pass in there.
Do agree regarding the positive team selection on Saturday though, Robins got it horribly wrong yesterday and I was annoyed that we had so many injuries for him to hide behind instead of owning the issues.
Disagree on the Kelly v Doyle point. While I agree Doyle was pretty woeful yesterday, I think Doyle himself plays better when Kelly doesn't play. Having another holding midfield player alongside him just isn't necessary in League 2. It might be interesting to see how Kelly & Bayliss might do without Doyle, but I suspect that it would leave us a bit soft for this league (maybe we will find out if & when Doyle gets injured). Kelly isn't a leader like Doyle, or as inspirational to our younger players, and I think our team will suffer more from Doyle's absence than they would Kelly's.
 

Grendel

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We have got right back sorted with Grimmer. It will have to wait until the summer unfortunately but we need a left back. Stokes and Haynes aren't up to the job.

Stokes is a good asset defensively. Often we are under pressure in late stages of games he comes across and makes crucial interceptions and headers.

Defensively less gets past him than Grimmer
 

Esoterica

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Disagree on the Kelly v Doyle point. While I agree Doyle was pretty woeful yesterday, I think Doyle himself plays better when Kelly doesn't play. Having another holding midfield player alongside him just isn't necessary in League 2. It might be interesting to see how Kelly & Bayliss might do without Doyle, but I suspect that it would leave us a bit soft for this league (maybe we will find out if & when Doyle gets injured). Kelly isn't a leader like Doyle, or as inspirational to our younger players, and I think our team will suffer more from Doyle's absence than they would Kelly's.
Absolutely agree that we can't play 2 DMs, I've been saying that since Newport. Either of them would look better alongside Bayliss. I don't think it would leave us soft playing Kelly and Bayliss though, i think we'd end up playing better football. Doyle is no hard man: he works hard, picks up an awful lot of 2nd balls and is a master of the dark arts (winding individuals up, getting in the refs ear and encouraging the kids etc). On Saturday there was only really Bayliss and Barrett that were kids and with him carrying some kind of injury I think it was the right time to give Doyle a rest, whether that meant starting Kelly or bringing him on with 30 to go and nursing him back to match fitness. Like he had to with Davies, McDonald and Willis, Robins needs to learn very quickly when to play Doyle, when to play Kelly and when to play both. A serious autos challenge depends on it.
 

Legia Sky Blue

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Good points well put. I agree Kelly is a better footballer, but he doesn't strike me as a leader like Doyle, who even in his mid 30's still covers more ground & than most and makes life easier for the likes of Bayliss. That said this is such an attritional league that both will be needed to play their part between now and the end of the season, and with the injuries we are suffering there may even come a point where Robins needs to change our system by playing 3 at the back with wing backs, which might allow Bayliss to play in an advanced midfield role while still playing Kelly & Doyle. That might at least close the big gap between midfield and forwards that so obviously persists when Kelly & Doyle play together in midfield at the moment.
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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Delayed player ratings:
Burge 5.5 - had the jitters a bit, made a good save on to the post for their first goal and was unlucky to see the rebound go in, didn't have a chance for the second. On a separate note was nice to see him come over and give a young lad his gloves, despite the torrent of abuse from one particular bell end who had also called out Doyle who offered him into the changing room.
Grimmer 6 - Looked to be getting forward well until unfortunately subbed off
Davies 6 - had a fairly decent game, not outstanding but didn't do much wrong
Willis 6 - Probably would have been a 5.5 but gets the extra half for the great block to prevent an opening goal
Stokes 5 - Whilst he's perfectly solid enough, his ability with the ball and lack of any attacking ability really does become obvious when Willis is on the pitch. I'm not saying Haynes is the answer but we could really do with someone with a slightly more attacking intent at full back. Stokes best position for me is centre back.
Bayliss 6.5 - only creativity we had really, unafraid to run at people or beat a man. Mature beyond his years.
Doyle 4.5 - we lost the midfield battle, him and Kelly doesnt work, they were behind/level with McDonald when he was pushing forward trying to get an equaliser
Kelly 4.5 - same as Doyle really, neither offered us anything.
Barrett 4 - Looks like there's a talented footballer in there but doesn't get involved anywhere near enough. Looks to be carrying a few pounds and also looks pretty slow. I imagine his preferred position is a number 10
Biamou 4 - Offered nothing, he's been great in recent weeks but a poor performance. Touch was heavy, didnt get involved.
McNulty 6.5 - Along with Bayliss, our only real threat. Constant running in behind, was unlucky with a chance in the first half and took his pen well.
McDonald 5.5 - was trying to get us up the pitch but had very few outlets to pass to so ended up having to go long into the box
Clark-Harris 5.5 - Didn't influence the game enough, cracking effort from the set piece that went just wide.
Haynes 6 - I actually thought he was good when he came on. Certainly drove at their defence and created more than we had been, his (suspect) defensive capabilites weren't tested whilst he was on, but looked a threat going forward.
 

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