8th Biggest Budget (10 Viewers)

[Liquid Gold]

I just want someone to link me to where this has been said. I'm not interested in arguing about how we're performing in relation to the budget but don't remember this ever being reported anywhere and is now seen as a fact because it's been repeated so often.

If I'm wrong then fair enough but can someone prove it?

 

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[Suffolk sky blues]

Who cares ccfc rotten to the core.

 

[skybluetony176]

I think it’s more of an assumption than a fact.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

Who cares ccfc rotten to the core.

Bore off you prick.

 

[oucho]

Estimated facts.

 

[wingy]

As far as I know It was from a fans forum at the Albany.

 

[SkyBlueRuffian]

The one which Fisher was present

 

[IrishSkyBlue]

It be interesting to see top 3 (luton, accrington, wycombe) budgets to ours and look at what their managers have done compared to ours aswell, revenue streams, player wages, tactics ect jsut see the difference.

 

[Esoterica]

I just want someone to link me to where this has been said. I'm not interested in arguing about how we're performing in relation to the budget but don't remember this ever being reported anywhere and is now seen as a fact because it's been repeated so often.

If I'm wrong then fair enough but can someone prove it?

CCFC chairman faces Q&A at Sky Blue Trust meeting – watch in full

The only place I've heard it mentioned is here. 58 mins 30 into the Trust video where he says they're backing MR with a top 3rd budget (i.e top 8)

 

[Liquid Gold]

CCFC chairman faces Q&A at Sky Blue Trust meeting – watch in full

The only place I've heard it mentioned is here. 58 mins 30 into the Trust video where he says they're backing MR with a top 3rd budget (i.e top 8)

Top 3rd could mean highest budget though couldn't it. The assumption has just been made that we're the lowest possibility.

 

[Esoterica]

Top 3rd could mean highest budget though couldn't it. The assumption has just been made that we're the lowest possibility.

Yes, it could. That's the only reference to budget I have seen from an official source though. I didn't understand how he could even make that statement in March to be honest - we didn't know which teams were going to be in L2 then. I just presumed it was a deliberately vague soundbyte based on his early fag packet calculations made to appease the fans there by making it sound like we would be somehow competitive.

 

[Hobo]

Are you talking whole budget or a section of it like wages?
Then there is squad size, youth schemes, also retention and how long the core of a squad has been together?

I would say the more players you bring in each summer lowers the chance of finding quality players. For instance looking for four rather than 12 or 15 each summer. Retention is an important part of moving the club forward.

 

[stupot07]

Top 3rd could mean highest budget though couldn't it. The assumption has just been made that we're the lowest possibility.

And there's good reasons to be more general and not say 'we have the biggest budget in the league'. That puts expectation very high, and publically puts expectations and pressure on the management and players. Anything less than top isn't good enough.

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[wingy]

That comment was followed by remarking wages would be Rock bottom, trying to fathom his context there?
Is he suggesting scope for fees, squad expansion behind the scenes investment?

 

[Captain Dart]

Yes, it could. That's the only reference to budget I have seen from an official source though. I didn't understand how he could even make that statement in March to be honest - we didn't know which teams were going to be in L2 then. I just presumed it was a deliberately vague soundbyte based on his early fag packet calculations made to appease the fans there by making it sound like we would be somehow competitive.

Isn't it also very similar to statements he made when we were in league one.

Frankly I don't believe a word that comes out of Fishers mouth unless it can be corroborated by a reliable and independent source.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Well the only thing I heard which makes me think we have a top 6 budget is when ive heard:

Mansfield / Stevenage/Chesterfield and Carlisle Boss say that some of the transfer dealing they were blown out the water by Coventry for.
And these were quotes at the time from various managers pre match.

 

[wingy]

Well the only thing I heard which makes me think we have a top 6 budget is when ive heard:

Mansfield / Stevenage/Chesterfield and Carlisle Boss say that some of the transfer dealing they were blown out the water by Coventry for.
And these were quotes at the time from various managers pre match.

Is that a bit like Robins claiming Swindon have a squad worth £9M ?

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Is that a bit like Robins claiming Swindon have a squad worth £9M ?

lol true.

But I don't think The captain of Portsmouth who won the league for them last year would have been short of offers if hadn't moved so swiftly to cov.
Would be on peanuts, id imagine (yes hes moved closer to home) but he would be one of the best paid in the League id imagine.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Well the only thing I heard which makes me think we have a top 6 budget is when ive heard:

Mansfield / Stevenage/Chesterfield and Carlisle Boss say that some of the transfer dealing they were blown out the water by Coventry for.
And these were quotes at the time from various managers pre match.

Also depends where your priorities are for players, and how much you're prepared to spend to get them in. We were also blown out the water for certain other players, too.

Also FWIW, isn't that the oldest bargaining trick in the book? 'Well Coventry have offered me £90,000 a week, and free blowjobs... what are you going to offer?'

 

[Adge]

Yes, it could. That's the only reference to budget I have seen from an official source though. I didn't understand how he could even make that statement in March to be honest - we didn't know which teams were going to be in L2 then. I just presumed it was a deliberately vague soundbyte based on his early fag packet calculations made to appease the fans there by making it sound like we would be somehow competitive.

Correct-How did he make a calculation not even knowing how many season tickets would be sold?
Then they budgeted on gates being higher than they were, when everyone knew there would be a drop off. If we are in L2 next year I guess the budget will be based on 10,000 attendance at home and 8,000 season tickets sold. :emoji_joy:

 

[shmmeee]

Top 3rd could mean highest budget though couldn't it. The assumption has just been made that we're the lowest possibility.

Why would you low ball the budget to fans?

If it was top quarter or top fifth you’d say so

 

[skybluetony176]

CCFC chairman faces Q&A at Sky Blue Trust meeting – watch in full

The only place I've heard it mentioned is here. 58 mins 30 into the Trust video where he says they're backing MR with a top 3rd budget (i.e top 8)

Top third? Isn’t this the guy who said announcement in three weeks? Pass the salt please.

 

[skybluetony176]

Why would you low ball the budget to fans?

If it was top quarter or top fifth you’d say so

Plus we had this argument last year where people were convinced that we had a top quarter or top half budget depending on who you talked to at any point before Xmas based on noise from the club. Didn’t it come to light in the end that it was bottom half to bottom quarter? Between the budget and Slades appointment wasting what was left of it we reaped what we sown last season. Dare say this season will prove to be the same.

 

[skybluetony176]

And there's good reasons to be more general and not say 'we have the biggest budget in the league'. That puts expectation very high, and publically puts expectations and pressure on the management and players. Anything less than top isn't good enough.

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Well that clearly backfired going by the most common theme of new threads over the last week or two.

 

[ccfcway]

The assumption has just been made that we're the lowest possibility.

always a safe assumption with CCFC

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Also depends where your priorities are for players, and how much you're prepared to spend to get them in. We were also blown out the water for certain other players, too.

Also FWIW, isn't that the oldest bargaining trick in the book? 'Well Coventry have offered me £90,000 a week, and free blowjobs... what are you going to offer?'

Well, the only player to public knowledge who we’ve been ‘blown out of the water’ for, was Marc Richards. We could’ve been hesitant to offer him an 18mth contract.

Other players like Williams, Davies, some Barnet lad, maybe Newton at Stevenage, didn’t want to come to us for whatever reason.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Recent managers have made it very clear by their coded comments whilst at the club, and by their less guarded statements after having left, that the club is being run on a shoestring. There's been too many cases over recent years where we've failed to get targets or have relied on loans and youngsters not to suggest that our budget is middling at best.

That said, whilst other clubs in this league have more income channels eg f&b, you do wonder how it is, every year, two or three clubs have money to spend out of proportion to their fan base.

What I fail to understand is sisu's nopm full stop mentality, such as the season before when we had a real chance of promotion. If only they would tell what the end game was, to put us out of our misery.

 

[skyblue025]

Well, the only player to public knowledge who we’ve been ‘blown out of the water’ for, was Marc Richards. We could’ve been hesitant to offer him an 18mth contract.

Other players like Williams, Davies, some Barnet lad, maybe Newton at Stevenage, didn’t want to come to us for whatever reason.

For all we know they all could of been offered more by their respective clubs. Or they might all of thought Robins was a twat. We will never know.

 

[robbiekeane]

Recent managers have made it very clear by their coded comments whilst at the club, and by their less guarded statements after having left, that the club is being run on a shoestring. There's been too many cases over recent years where we've failed to get targets or have relied on loans and youngsters not to suggest that our budget is middling at best.

That said, whilst other clubs in this league have more income channels eg f&b, you do wonder how it is, every year, two or three clubs have money to spend out of proportion to their fan base.

What I fail to understand is sisu's nopm full stop mentality, such as the season before when we had a real chance of promotion. If only they would tell what the end game was, to put us out of our misery.

My god you talk some shite

 

[ccfcway]

Well, the only player to public knowledge who we’ve been ‘blown out of the water’ for, was Marc .

the guy who has scored more in 1 month than Biamou, Beavon, JP and K thomas combined for the entire season, yet we paid £125k for a loan of JCH ?

 

[Deleted member 4439]

My god you talk some shite

At last, insulted by the resident troll. I feel validated.

 

[robbiekeane]

yet we paid £125k for a loan of JCH ?

Where did that number come from?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Where did that number come from?

Bawtryneal needs to come on and explain it...or search his old posts. It's not quite as black and white as that.

 

[wingy]

Bawtryneal needs to come on and explain it...or search his old posts. It's not quite as black and white as that.

Clive suggested it on CWR.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

the guy who has scored more in 1 month than Biamou, Beavon, JP and K thomas combined for the entire season, yet we paid £125k for a loan of JCH ?

Yes, he chose Swindon over us? We clearly identified him as a target for his proficiency at goal scoring in L2. Swindon’s budget is probably equal with ours.

JCH was a 3rd choice signing because Craig Davies didn’t want to come. But, JCH is 23 so this an investment (large loan fee because it’s with a view to a permanent) - he’s played most of his football in the leagues above too. Meanwhile, the aforementioned are both on the wrong side of 30, with Richards being closer to 40 than 30.