Spy Poisoning (1 Viewer)

martcov

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27 countries have taken action none of whom would do so lightly and all of whom would not seek to use the death on British soil of two people as a way of making political gain unlike the disgrace that masquerades as the opposition (we know Corbyn sides with every anti British country on earth) - what a strange little man you are.

Yes you anti British stooge it’s case closed.

Then why are we giving evidence at an inquiry? Do you know something no one else does?
 

Grendel

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Then why are we giving evidence at an inquiry? Do you know something no one else does?

We will give evidence but not as Russia has requested (and you want) to reveal sources for inspection from Russia
 

Grendel

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I don’t want. But we will probably have to give up some probes to be tested by Russia.

We don’t have to do anything though of course if Russia agree to allow extradition of the chief suspect in the Litvenko murder for questioning that would be a different matter. Why won’t they allow this do you think?
 

martcov

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We don’t have to do anything though of course if Russia agree to allow extradition of the chief suspect in the Litvenko murder for questioning that would be a different matter. Why won’t they allow this do you think?

Let's see shall we. We are in the position of having our story challenged. If we cannot prove anything, then we have lost a propaganda battle and Putin will continue pointing the finger at us. Maybe it will be in our interest to let them have a sample for checking. At least it shows a willingness to offer proof of sorts. But, I don't know what we have.
 

Grendel

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Let's see shall we. We are in the position of having our story challenged. If we cannot prove anything, then we have lost a propaganda battle and Putin will continue pointing the finger at us. Maybe it will be in our interest to let them have a sample for checking. At least it shows a willingness to offer proof of sorts. But, I don't know what we have.

And in exchange should they extradite the suspect in the Litvenko murder?
 

martcov

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And in exchange should they extradite the suspect in the Litvenko murder?

As far as I know the organisation that has convened is only interested in nerve agents used in Salisbury. It is supposed to be impartial, so I doubt whether it will be looking into past cases.
 

Grendel

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As far as I know the organisation that has convened is only interested in nerve agents used in Salisbury. It is supposed to be impartial, so I doubt whether it will be looking into past cases.

Should Russia anyway as an act of good faith?
 

skyblueinBaku

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But maybe Putin is so arrogant he believes he can just do whatever he wants and there's no-one who can stop him.
I think that is the case, Otis.
 

SkyblueBazza

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I don’t want. But we will probably have to give up some probes to be tested by Russia.
Don't think we 'have to'. We may volunteer evidence (if there is convincing evidence) to the ORGANISATION FOR THE
PROHIBITION OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS...who as recently as last September commended Russia for completing destruction of their stockpile of chemical weapons under their own verification process

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Otis

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Don't think we 'have to'. We may volunteer evidence (if there is convincing evidence) to the ORGANISATION FOR THE
PROHIBITION OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS...who as recently as last September commended Russia for completing destruction of their stockpile of chemical weapons under their own verification process

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Ah, but was that just the stockpile we know about?
 

Grendel

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Looks as though Boris has been telling porkies again. If he hasn't then Porton Down have.
If only someone had suggested collecting all the evidence before jumping to conclusions!!

Corbyn has effectively been using his privy council position to undermine Britain - Corbyn has to resign now. Oddly also even though The Hague verdict has been released an hour ago I can’t see it on any news media.
 

clint van damme

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Corbyn has effectively been using his privy council position to undermine Britain - Corbyn has to resign now. Oddly also even though The Hague verdict has been released an hour ago I can’t see it on any news media.


HAHA. Boris lies but it's all about Corbyn, ridiculous.
The Hague verdict is irrelevant, Boris said that Porton Down told him categorically the nerve agent was made in Russia, they said they didn't, someones lying. If it's Foreign secretary, (again) then that's scandalous.
 

martcov

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Corbyn has effectively been using his privy council position to undermine Britain - Corbyn has to resign now. Oddly also even though The Hague verdict has been released an hour ago I can’t see it on any news media.

What was The Hague verdict? Was Russia guilty? Or are you referring to the vote about whether Russia should be at the inquiry? I thought the results of the independent tests are coming next week. Could you post a link proving Russia guilty? BoJo is a known liar, so what he says doesn’t count.
 

skybluetony176

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HAHA. Boris lies but it's all about Corbyn, ridiculous.
The Hague verdict is irrelevant, Boris said that Porton Down told him categorically the nerve agent was made in Russia, they said they didn't, someones lying. If it's Foreign secretary, (again) then that's scandalous.
Apparently the incriminating tweet by Boris has been taken down. Which is odd if he’s done/said nothing wrong.
 

clint van damme

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Apparently the incriminating tweet by Boris has been taken down. Which is odd if he’s done/said nothing wrong.

Strange that. The tweet you refer to was actually tweeted by the FCO account which might have got Boris off the hook and left some civil service lackey to take the fall, unfortunately for him he repeated it's content in an interview.
 

Grendel

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Also martcov why do you refuse to answer my question?
 

Grendel

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No it wasn’t, they were outvoted. Iran, China etc wanted them involved.

Ha ha ha ha I bet they did. You pick your friends well
 

martcov

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Ha ha ha ha I bet they did. You pick your friends well

Yes, they did.. the vote was 15:6 with 17 abstentions. That is hardly unanimous.

The Russia backers were:

China, Azerbaijan, Sudan, Algeria and Iran backed the Russian motion, the diplomatic source said. Seventeen member states abstained
 

wingy

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Corbyn has effectively been using his privy council position to undermine Britain - Corbyn has to resign now. Oddly also even though The Hague verdict has been released an hour ago I can’t see it on any news media.
Haha!
 

martcov

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Ha ha ha ha I bet they did. You pick your friends well

My friends? You don’t even know any of them. They are almost all pro EU and you probably wouldn’t get on with most. I do know some very right wing people though ( not really friends, just acquaintances).

What have they got to do with Russians and the Salisbury inquiry anyway?
 

Otis

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Looks as though Boris has been telling porkies again. If he hasn't then Porton Down have.
If only someone had suggested collecting all the evidence before jumping to conclusions!!
Yep. Clear as day. Either Boris is lying or someone gave him duff information.
 

Grendel

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Yep. Clear as day. Either Boris is lying or someone gave him duff information.

Do you think politicians who delete off social media have something to hide?
 

SkyblueBazza

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HAHA. Boris lies but it's all about Corbyn, ridiculous.
The Hague verdict is irrelevant, Boris said that Porton Down told him categorically the nerve agent was made in Russia, they said they didn't, someones lying. If it's Foreign secretary, (again) then that's scandalous.
In normal times it would certainly mean a mass media stampede for his resignation. Not sure that would serve Britain's interests best...but but it would almost certainly be the case were Boris not be the mainstream right's darling

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SkyblueBazza

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What was The Hague verdict? Was Russia guilty? Or are you referring to the vote about whether Russia should be at the inquiry? I thought the results of the independent tests are coming next week. Could you post a link proving Russia guilty? BoJo is a known liar, so what he says doesn’t count.
Don't single BoJo out...he is a politician. They are ALL liars. The only question is the depth & seriousness of the lie (s)

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SkyblueBazza

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My friends? You don’t even know any of them. They are almost all pro EU and you probably wouldn’t get on with most. I do know some very right wing people though ( not really friends, just acquaintances).

Enough said!!!

Expressed socialist views no doubt...but actual right wing leanings.

Almost Blairite. And his claim to fame was...WMD!

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