Spy Poisoning (18 Viewers)
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Could be .
It's weird you know but I've heard two interviews on TV where there's been a slip and they've referred to 'dead' or 'deaths'. one was Malcolm Rifkind and the other Kevin Mcguire on Sky last night.
Astute
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Was I bollox.
You did a quick read on the meaning and got it totally wrong. You then kept getting it wrong.
What you was stating showed you knew more than the Jewish people on the matter.
But no surprise here. You will chat any crap to make Corbyn look perfect and have a go at anyone who doesn't share your one sided views on Brexit.....although you don't mention that Corbyn wants out and has done for a lot of years.
clint van damme
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Can we keep this thread to topic .
Seem to be overspill from two other lengthy threads crossing over here .
Politely.
just the two?!!
Captain Dart
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What do you mean polite, just fuck right off.Can we keep this thread to topic .
Seem to be overspill from two other lengthy threads crossing over here .
Politely.
skybluetony176
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Quick read my arse. I’ve read numerous books over the years about Israel and Palestine, seen countless documentaries and have been to Israel and Palestine in person. I’ve been pointing out for months that Corbyn is not anti Semitic but if you wanted to claim that he’s anti Zionist you’d have a point. I know the difference between anti Semitic and anti Zionist for a reason and have done for decades. You probably thought Zion was a township in Jamaica because it’s a line of a Bob Marley song until I brought the subject up.
Corbyn is a socialist (not communist as some on here think) so why you think people don’t realise he is pro leave is beyond me. It isn’t news and even if I don’t agree with him on this subject it doesn’t detract from the arguments that he makes that I believe he is correct in.
Grendel
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Corbyn isn’t anti Zionist he’s anti the Jewish community having a homeland - which is due to their race.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Just call him a Nazi and be done with it G
Grendel
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Well according to Tony Corbyn hates Zionist’s (the term Zio is considered anti semetic and enimated from right wing extremists but let’s set that one aside) so I guess he can’t be as according to you and Ken Livingstone Hitler was a Zionist - yet I thought ken and Jeremy were such good friends.
henry the wasp
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They need to sack that scriptwriter.
Almost like a Metaphor.
'Everything is Solvable '.
skybluetony176
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Really! That’s quite the sweeping statement. Presumably you have a link to him stating this as his position.
skybluetony176
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Really? I always thought Zio was Italian for uncle but if you say so. I always Zion is a modern translation of the Latin word Sion which is a translation of the Hebrew word for Jerusalem. But hey, I’m sure you know better.
Grendel
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Astute
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I bet his shit smells of roses to you. You have an excuse ready for everything.
Yet you haven't said why every politician that wants us out of the EU is a twat but never comment on Corbyn wanting us out.
Grendel
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Remember Tony couldn’t even work out how to read the link I’m curious which books he has read as his base assumption is incorrect.
Astute
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We know that. But he knows more about the Jewish people than they know themselves.
Grendel
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Well he knows a large percentage don’t support having Israel but oddly can’t find a reference. Perhaps he read Mein Kampf and got confused. Make sense given his political leanings.
What does your mate Peter Hitchens think of the possibility of the Russian State being involved? Is he more BoJo on this, or more Corbyn?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Never said he was a Zionist but referred to a Nazi plan to relocate European Jews to another part of the planet to create a separate state (under SS control). Objectively speaking there was some overlap with the aims of both plans.
Grendel
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But Mr Livingstone says he’s a Zionist. Was he?
Grendel
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You ask many questions but never answer any - also as usual you miss his point
Brighton Sky Blue
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Grendel
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Not a racist term then? So I guess Wog wasn’t or Paki. Far enough if that’s your opinion.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Not what he said was it G, actual quote was 'Hitler supported Zionism before he went mad'
Did he support the creation of a Jewish state in the Holy Land-no evidence to say he did. Did he support wanting to move all the Jews to a specific place-initially, before the war turned against him.
Grendel
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But he supported Ziomism
Brighton Sky Blue
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An opinion piece with a throw away line about 'it probably started on the American far right' I'm sure you'll agree isn't much evidence. Come back with something more concrete and of course I'll accept it.
Grendel
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skybluetony176
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I know what anti Zionism is and I know what anti Semitic is. Some people like to blur the lines for political gain, like you. Others blur it because they’re stupid and don’t realise the difference. Same as members of the Indian community used to get labelled an abbreviation of a neighbouring country as a derogatory term. If people are using Zio as a derogatory term against all Jewish people then you’re in good company as you’ve misunderstood the meaning of Zionism and Zionist the same as them.
Judaism is a religion, Zionism is an ideology. Judaism as a religion is over 3500 years old. Zionism as an ideology is also only about 140 years old. As long as there has been Zionism there has been an anti Zionist movements in the Jewish faith even from within Israel itself, the OJC is almost 100years old and based in Jerusalem and predates the state of Israel. Haredi Jews are anti Zionist and is an older movement than the OJC. Hasidic Jews are anti Zionist. One of the three oaths is that Jews will not forcibly claim Israel. Many Jews believe Zionism is a direct threat to God. Many view Zionism as an ideology based on racism. Should I go on?
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skybluetony176
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Was tempted to make the same point myself. Can’t say I’ve heard the term before myself but it is apparently out there and like all derogatory terms isn’t based on fact, it’s based on bigotry and bastardisation of a word in its true meaning.
Brighton Sky Blue
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No issue with that G, bit of a more reliable source. Though what this has to do with an unfortunate Russian chap I'm less certain.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Those in the far right will be anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic. Though being the former doesn't de facto make you the latter, which is the lazy conclusion being jumped to against anyone with a negative comment to make about Israel.
skybluetony176
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The Nazi deal with Zionist Jews was about the Nazis protecting the German economy. Nothing to do with being Zionist or supporting Zionism. That was just a byproduct.