Match Thread Coventry City at Notts County Match Thread - Saturday 7th Apr (12 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

changes are needed either way. We need a new GK, left back and right winger as a minimum.

That said, its considerably less than years gone by when a whole new team is needed !

Agree with all that

 

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[Sick Boy]

Mmmmmmm Cos they’ve destroyed my club

The club was on the way down before they arrived.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Middle of the road really-not great but not disastrous. I seen you on about the Bayliss one earlier. Definitely a mandatory caution in that scenario as Bayliss denied what was going to be a promising attack.

But let their player off with a warning for doing the same having been booked 2 minutes before. Ref was appalling today as we’re the linesmen. So many bad fouls pulls and pushes ignored by them. Their first was a definite foul on Burge. The defenders diving in their own half to get free kicks. Just shocking from the officials.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

How do you blame Burge for either of those

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The club was on the way down before they arrived.

Insane

 

[fernandopartridge]

Constructive.

I'm sorry, but if I failed my objectives at work there would be consequences. If Robins does it should be the same.

I just don't think he's the right man long term. I know everyone loves him and you can't criticise him without people making dickish comments like yours. I like him as a person, and I want him to do well but, after turning things around, he's gone back to making the same mistakes again and its cost us today.

We all know the budget will be reduced next year so we should get used to this division if we don't go up. I suspect we'll lose many of our better players such as Willis, Jones & Bayliss (granted we've been without Jones for some time). Replacements will be on a budget, hopefully the scouting is now in place but based on January I'm not convinced.

He still has time to turn us around and get us up through the playoffs. I suspect he will be better in league one than he has this year. He seems to be under the impression we should match the long ball tactics of other teams in this league despite not having the players.

If we make the playoffs maybe we should give him the benefit of the doubt and let him have the summer but would need to make a good start.

Appreciate I overreact but I don't think anyone can argue we haven't underachieved up until this point.

Which of the team's above have a better squad of players? Luton probably have, but that's it. They have been better managed and played to their teams strengths. We haven't played to our own strengths.

If we lost in the play offs it would be much better than anything we've had for years and actual progress. You and others are judging Robins on the basis that we have historically been in a higher division as if that somehow means we should be promoted from this one by default. It doesn't.
We are a league 2 club with a league 2 squad. If we get to the play offs and lose we keep the manager and try to improve by another increment next year. Sacking him and starting again would be repeating the same idiotic short term decision making that sees us in league 2.

 

[Sick Boy]

Insane

It's not insane at all, we were flirting with relegation to league 1 way before SISU arrived and were hardly in a healthy position financially. Even Gary Mac commented the club was rotten to its core and the downward spiral would continue until it was addressed.

 

[Otis]

It's not insane at all, we were flirting with relegation to league 1 way before SISU arrived and were hardly in a healthy position financially. Even Gary Mac commented the club was rotten to its core and the downward spiral would continue until it was addressed.

Tis true. We were in a mess before Sisu unfortunately.

 

[Sick Boy]

If we lost in the play offs it would be much better than anything we've had for years and actual progress. You and others are judging Robins on the basis that we have historically been in a higher division as if that somehow means we should be promoted from this one by default. It doesn't.
We are a league 2 club with a league 2 squad. If we get to the play offs and lose we keep the manager and try to improve by another increment next year. Sacking him and starting again would be repeating the same idiotic short term decision making that sees us in league 2.

I'm inclined to agree with you but I'd give him until December and see where we are, I'd be expecting automatic promotion places by then if we are still in this league, which I think we will be.

 

[Sick Boy]

Tis true. We were in a mess before Sisu unfortunately.

I remember that season where we played Walsall at home first home game of the season and I knew we were on a downward spiral.

Looking back, if we'd gone down League 1 instead of Leicester in SISU's first full season then I think we'd be in a better place now.

 

[play_in_skyblue_stripes]

Why the fuck does the shit about SISU come up every time we lose a game.

Ffs enjoy the game enjoy the rest of the season. We are still in play offs.

SISU are fundamental to all the problems.
SISU issue never goes away win, lose or draw.
I heard a cry or two of "SISU OUT". Then some guy in front responded "Boring".
I don't see it as boring at all.It's the most important matter regarding Coventry City.

 

[Adge]

What’s the law on that? It looks like obstruction but with how crowded the box is and how much players have hold of eachother at set pieces you can kind of understand why the referee didn’t give it

As I seen it there was no foul-just a player standing his ground. Was the keeper impeded by this? Not for me and that's most likely the view off the official too.

 

[play_in_skyblue_stripes]

But let their player off with a warning for doing the same having been booked 2 minutes before. Ref was appalling today as we’re the linesmen. So many bad fouls pulls and pushes ignored by them. Their first was a definite foul on Burge. The defenders diving in their own half to get free kicks. Just shocking from the officials.

I agree ref was below standard. Not impressed also by antics of NC short haired central midfielder and tall defender with beard. Ref did nothing to stop their
unsportsmanlike actions.
Saying that not the reason why we lost. Poor first half performance and shocking to concede straight after equaliser.
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[BackRoomRummermill]

If we lost in the play offs it would be much better than anything we've had for years and actual progress. You and others are judging Robins on the basis that we have historically been in a higher division as if that somehow means we should be promoted from this one by default. It doesn't.
We are a league 2 club with a league 2 squad. If we get to the play offs and lose we keep the manager and try to improve by another increment next year. Sacking him and starting again would be repeating the same idiotic short term decision making that sees us in league 2.

I understand that but fear we will not retain the little talent we have , a downward spiral to who knows where .

Next season performance ibeing better is never a given, I would say it’s blind faith or best guess

 

[oldskyblue58]

Can't help thinking that robins is being judged primarily on fans expectations not the actual ability of the squad compared to other teams. After 41 games it is pretty clear that the current ability of the squad is not consistent or matching expectation... It is not significantly better in performance than many teams presently above and just below them. Indeed given the injuries to key players, the large influx simply to build a team in the first place, the reliance on youth has it really under performed to its actual qualities and ability? It under performs to fans expectations..... ccfc has rarely not done that in many many seasons.

"We are a big team" or "We are the biggest team in the division " does not give rights to promotion or disguise the weaknesses that exist throughout the whole squad. We are there or there abouts but so are a number of other teams. We have some players with potential that may or may not come through for us, but in the main we have inconsistent league 2 players that lack confidence. We have a manager that makes some mistakes is that a surprise ? The solution is get rid of him, get rid of lots if players , tear it all up and start again..... like that has worked so often before. Is it coincidence that Accrington, Luton, Wycombe are not one year projects?

Is the ccfc squad the best or one of the best on the pitch deserving of automatic promotion from this division? Performance so far would suggest only in brief flashes that have rarely lasted more than 45 minutes. It takes more than that.

Personally I think it is time to build not dismantle, to learn and bond. Yes some will leave but this argument that it is all to do with annual budget is an over simplification..... just look at the teams that succeed or succeeded on less.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

If We get into play offs will be likely to 6th or 7th. Rather than 4th or 5th.

I think players will be confident knowing that they been given a last chance saloon saving grace to salvage the season.

There's no doubt in my mind this group play better in the BIG games. Been evident most of season.

 

[Sick Boy]

If We get into play offs will be likely to 6th or 7th. Rather than 4th or 5th.

I think players will be confident knowing that they been given a last chance saloon saving grace to salvage the season.

There's no doubt in my mind this group play better in the BIG games. Been evident most of season.

Like today you mean?

 

[Adge]

If We get into play offs will be likely to 6th or 7th. Rather than 4th or 5th.

I think players will be confident knowing that they been given a last chance saloon saving grace to salvage the season.

There's no doubt in my mind this group play better in the BIG games. Been evident most of season.

Do they? What happened against Accrington and today?

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Do they? What happened against Accrington and today?

He said most of the season

 

[Adge]

Yes he did, when it really matters (as today) it seems we can't go the extra mile and produce. Just hope we can produce in the next 5.

 

[Cavan O'Doherty]

How did Reid not come on in that second half? Shipley was having a mare and put a dreadful ball in nine times out of ten. But no, let’s put on Barrett who changes games according to Robins. He’s in the same bracket as Michael Folivi and Andre Wright!

 

[Johhny Blue]

Yes he did, when it really matters (as today) it seems we can't go the extra mile and produce. Just hope we can produce in the next 5.

Yes he did, when it really matters (as today) it seems we can't go the extra mile and produce. Just hope we can produce in the next 5.

8

 

[Adge]

8

Hopefully!

 

[Amcoventry]

How do you blame Burge for either of those

Just what i thought after watching the highlights. Going by comments on here and in this thread during the game I thought he was at fault both goals. Don't see it!

 

[Houchens Head]

Just think. If we finish in 7th, then we'll be in the play-offs. Even if we go up, we can still hang on to that glorious record of not finishing in the top six in any league since 19 bleedin' 70! Who else can take that nearly 50 year old record from us? :emoji_smile:

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

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Won the pen at Wycombe. More a moment than a game though.

Just think. If we finish in 7th, then we'll be in the play-offs. Even if we go up, we can still hang on to that glorious record of not finishing in the top six in any league since 19 bleedin' 70! Who else can take that nearly 50 year old record from us? :emoji_smile:

for 32 of those we were in the top flight but I suppose being in the top 6 of 2nd 3rd or 4th divisions is infinitely better.

 

[clint van damme]

I'm just in after a great day on the lash and fucking hanging. Can't believe we're still in a play off place or that I WAS just wretching without actually puking up - BELIEVE!!

Edit - fuck me we were shite

 

[rupert_bear]

He makes mistakes he doesn't inspire confidence certainly among many of the fans. However the league 2 managers seem to rate him. As they have all seen him that isn't based solely on the back four in front of him

Personally I would have favoured an older more experienced keeper especially with a brand new team and the number of young players but I suspect the budget for what we really need just wasn't there.

But it hasn't been the only problem. Generally the full backs have been hit and miss, we need more than one creative option wide and centrally. We needed a leader for seasons we found one but now now need to plan a replacement.

If we miss promotion it will not be because of one player , burge or otherwise. They have all had good moments but they have all been crap at other times and cost us . Our biggest problem this season has been consistency be it in individuals, matches or for the season itself

We are an upper half league 2 team in a division that is dire most of the time. I think the level of being decent isn't actually that high.

Sooner we get out of this division the better and we can still do that

I won’t disagree about the frailties of Burge but the manager brought in a much needed new keeper pre-season but he isn’t good enough is he, played a few games at the start made a couple of costly errors, dropped for Burge never or hardly ever to return. A poor and costly signing to go with the two inept signings he made in January

 

[skyblue025]

But the other 12 he signed have done well enough! He isn't going to get every one right, no manager does.
don't see the blame on Burge for either goal. First one was clearly a foul as the player backed into him and almost had him over the line. If he had pushed him out of the way and given a pen away there would of been murder on here.

 

[chiefdave]

One thing puzzles me. Posters keep saying we should be top three with the squad we have. Then next breath that the recruitment has been poor. As we had to pretty much recruit a new team which is it?

Was going to post similar. Post after post about how terrible our players our yet Robins should have them walking to the title as its the best squad in the division!

Also seems to be an idea that players on other teams don't make mistakes. If they were that consistent they wouldn't be in L2, its just that we see our lot every week and see every mistake. Burge is a prime example, voted the best keeper in the division yet most of our supporters don't want him in the side.

 

[larry_david]

Just back off my stag. Did we win??

 

[Gazolba]

Highlights

Notts County 2-1 Coventry

"Video not authorised in your location"

 

[Gazolba]

<snip>Burge is a prime example, voted the best keeper in the division yet most of our supporters don't want him in the side.

If he's the best goalkeeper in the division, how come other clubs aren't clamouring to sign him?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Grimmer’s man with the free header for first goal. He’s the best we have in that position but I haven’t been convinced all season and as others have said if he was here last season he’d be getting far more criticism. I’d be looking for new right back, goalkeeper and left back in the summer

Last 10 games or so he has been really poor. I keep saying it but people don't generally listen.

I think that's because we've had more players in the team playing like clowns.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Tried to watch the highlights twice but they evaporated almost instantly to be honest.

Watching the Newport game it felt like we couldn't be bothered, and I think the same now. We aren't up for it enough.

I don't feel like the squad is taking it seriously. Maybe I'm just pissed though. It' 5.40 in the morning and I'm still out on the lash.