eastwoodsdustman
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Amazingly low marks all round as we lost. Had we played like that and won then there’d but 7s,8s and 9s. We struggled defensively but played pretty well going forward and really should have scored a couple more.
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Otis
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True, but the way I do it is to knock marks off for mistakes that lead to goals and where players are totally dominated.
For that reason all of the back four have to be marked down and even if we had won I just can't see how McNumpty could have received anything like a decent mark.
eastwoodsdustman
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People were moaning about McNulty staying on and JCH coming off for Biamou. JCH produced nothing in the second half. McNulty was still making runs behind the defence and caused them problems. I honestly thought it was a great game, result apart, and centre halves apart, most played pretty well.
Otis
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Grimmer??? Have you seen the highlights?
ccfcway
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Certainly not his finest hour last night. Worst performance from him I have seen
eastwoodsdustman
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I posted in another thread about this. He should have dealt with the second but was badly let down for the third and fourth as he had no support or cover. Watch the highlights again and there is no help from the winger for either. He was against 2 men for one and looked out of position for the fourth when in reality the winger should have been there to cover the ball back in by Rhead.
Otis
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Clearly at fault for two goals and hopelessly out of position for another.
Londonccfcfan
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Burge 4......worst keeper i ever seen.
Grimmer 5
Willis 6
Rod 4.....i was wrong he needs a break now.
Haynes 3 ....defensively woefull again
Shipley 6....
Doyle 6
Kelly 6
Bayliss 7
JCH 6.....one of his better games
McNulty 5....had a stinker
We just could not deal with the aeriel threat of Rhead al night. Again defensive mistakes.
They won plain and simple as they made less mistakes than us. Football isnt complicated.
Are they a better footballing side are they more talented ...no.. just a very proffesional hard working performance. Men vs boys.
Burge biggest culprit 4th goal killed us. Huge mistake by him. Completely useless glued to his spot and bottled it. He had so much time to even get the ball and punch it away whilst it was lobbed up it was up there not once did he command his box or area. Get rid!
Grimmer 5
Willis 6
Rod 4.....i was wrong he needs a break now.
Haynes 3 ....defensively woefull again
Shipley 6....
Doyle 6
Kelly 6
Bayliss 7
JCH 6.....one of his better games
McNulty 5....had a stinker
We just could not deal with the aeriel threat of Rhead al night. Again defensive mistakes.
They won plain and simple as they made less mistakes than us. Football isnt complicated.
Are they a better footballing side are they more talented ...no.. just a very proffesional hard working performance. Men vs boys.
Burge biggest culprit 4th goal killed us. Huge mistake by him. Completely useless glued to his spot and bottled it. He had so much time to even get the ball and punch it away whilst it was lobbed up it was up there not once did he command his box or area. Get rid!
Mucca Mad Boys
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Grimmer has a catalogue of defensive errors this season, and for all the stick Haynes gets, I actually think Grimmer makes more mistakes out of the two. I think Grimmer and McDonald were weak links last night. If anyone rewatches the goals, and I’ve watched them all several times, you cannot reasonably conclude any differently. Whilst Willis and Haynes let the ball travel to the back post for their third, Grimmer was all over the place and McDonald lost yet another aerial challenge.
I’m willing to kind of let McDonald off for their first goal, it was an intelligent piece of play topped off with a fantastic finish. After watching the replay, I don’t think any GK saves it. Aside from the 4th, every goal is prevented if McDonald wins the header. Unfortunately, people seem intent on blaming Burge or Haynes. Until I saw the replay, it looked as if Burge may have been at fault for the 4th, but he wasn’t — two of their players were lurking at the back post so he didn’t stand a chance.
Amcoventry
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Have you actually seen the goal? To many bevvies I think. Punch it away your in LaLa land.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Go and rewatch the goals, how you think Grimmer gets a 5 and McDonald a 4 with Haynes a 3 is laughable.
Every one of their 1st half goals is prevented if McDonald doesn’t get bullied in the air. And Grimmer got skinned for their second and was lost at sea for the 3rd and at a stretch, their 4th (though that was a counter attack).
Haynes getting shrugged off the ball and missing a few headers against Rhead led to zero goals or chances of note. To be fair, he actually put in two good challenges in the wide areas so he was definitely one of better defenders last night.
Before you reply, just watch the goals over mate.
standupforcity
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What does he see in Haynes!!! He constantly plays the ball short and then blames the player for not coming to him. He can't head the ball, never even tries. I cringe every time I see the ball is passed to him. Last night we needed Stokes on in his place..our defence was all over the place. So, another shocking performance in front of a large crowd...it can almost be guaranteed!!! The pressure is now really on and I begin to doubt we can even make the play offs...and even if we do, our confidence will be shot after that debacle!! On topic Doyle was the only one worth a mention...although I did feel Biamou deserved a penalty....
standupforcity
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The only thing I can find to say in our defence is that we do try and play football on the ground. Last night we were up against a team who lumps it forward to a couple of Auks up front. We lost badly but I prefer our approach...
steve82
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Burge 3
Grimmer 2
Willis 2
McDonald 2
Haynes 2
Bayliss 4
Doyle 5
Kelly 4
Shipley 3
McNulty 4
JCH 4
Sub's
Biamou 4
Ponticelli 2
MR 3
A few of us were concerned with the defensive selection and the game mapped out how we feared. Mcdonald, Haynes and Willis bullied for the whole duration Matt Rhead was on the pitch. Mcdonald and Willis looked lost together, ball watching and both drawn into silly areas of the pitch. distribution poor and that of scared to death players. Grimmer in all sorts of trouble.
The selection of Ollie Palmer with Matt Rhead and Green seemed to throw our preparations. Danny Cowley had this one better prepared to MR unfortunately.
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Grimmer 2
Willis 2
McDonald 2
Haynes 2
Bayliss 4
Doyle 5
Kelly 4
Shipley 3
McNulty 4
JCH 4
Sub's
Biamou 4
Ponticelli 2
MR 3
A few of us were concerned with the defensive selection and the game mapped out how we feared. Mcdonald, Haynes and Willis bullied for the whole duration Matt Rhead was on the pitch. Mcdonald and Willis looked lost together, ball watching and both drawn into silly areas of the pitch. distribution poor and that of scared to death players. Grimmer in all sorts of trouble.
The selection of Ollie Palmer with Matt Rhead and Green seemed to throw our preparations. Danny Cowley had this one better prepared to MR unfortunately.
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Nick
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I prefer whichever approach wins us the most games to be fair, playing to our players strengths.
Not sure what this along the ground football is, especially everytime McDonald tries his 50 yard diagonal pass to their defenders.
covcity4life
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my point was dont drop rod because of 1 mistake vs stevenage, fairplay you were right about rhead causing rod problems though,i myself would be interested to see how davies would have done
but burge a 3 over willis and rod? he killed us with that 4th goal man, how can you not claim a ball in 6 yard box??????? a slow lopped ball too
Londonccfcfan
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They are my ratings. I have my views and i coukdnt give a flying fuck about yours. X
ccfc_Tom
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Gave the ball away constantly with bad passes. Out of position constantly. Out battled, lost headers. Did you think he wasnt abysmal? I thought burge, mcdonald and grimmer were too i just didnt want to keep using the same word...
Great_Expectations
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Terrible terrible night. I’m on the way back to London now and have had time to reflect over night otherwise I genuinely think I’d have given the whole team a 0, bar Doyle.
Burge - 5 - could have claimed the fourth and a dodgy moment early on when he let the ball get away from him after he’d tried to dive to get it. He’s absolutely got a mistake in him, but he wasn’t to blame for last night.
Grimmer - 4 - typical Grimmer performance; great attacking outlet, inconsistent final ball and poor defensively. Equally not helped by whatever formation we tried to play.
Willis - 5 - didn’t do too much wrong directly, but as an experienced player, he should have got hold of Rhead. His pace saves him from being a bang average defender.
McDonald - 2 - I said before the game he shouldn’t play as he gets constantly bullied. Guess what happened? Absolute liability; get out of the team.
Haynes - 5 - offered an outlet and was made to look poor due to Shipley’s lack of movement in front of him. Defensively he can be questionable, but he is was not the weakest link last night. Equally I’d have played Stokes in this game, as it was obvious Haynes would be targeted.
Kelly - 3 - non-existent and pointless. His performance on Friday was obviously the outlier. Although in fairness, I have no idea where MR was asking him to play.
Doyle - 7 - only player who cared. He tried to deal with Rhead alone and was in the ref’s ear where he could be. He tried to do it all alone, which isn’t ideal for someone who isn’t actually that good at football. At one point we had a throw in late in the game, and he was the only one attempting to provide an option, despite the fact he was the oldest on the pitch (I presume).
Bayliss - 6 - good goal and a player I’d always have in the team as he is literally our only spark of creativity. He was quiet for long periods last night, but I at least have some hope when he had the ball, as opppsed to literally everyone else.
Shipley - 5 - well taken goal, but otherwise he was poor offensively. I feel for him as he’s not a left midfielder, but he never takes chances. Twice last night if he’d have gambled in then box he might have got on the end of a cross. Try him at left back.
McNulty - 5 - didn’t do much, but had poor service and was played out of position. Absolutely wasted on the wing.
JCH - 5 - I know everyone loves him, but I’m still not exactly sure what he offers, other than an attitude and a dive. He clearly has talent, and I believe he’ll come good, but he really doesn’t do enough for a player who should be head and shoulders above. His touch let’s him down too much as well.
Subs
Ponti - 4 - I’m sure he’ll come good, but can we all agree he’s not the messiah now?
Biamou - 5 - did all he could with the header and should have had a pen, but nothing else of note.
Robins - 2 - appalling team selection and tactics. The players looked clueless, we had zero width, yet still were overran in midfield. There tactic was clear, so surely we should have either changed how we dealt with Rhead or closed down the deep long balls sooner.
Poor substitutions and a lack of adaptability was again evident.
I like him, but I am becoming increasingly frustrated.
Burge - 5 - could have claimed the fourth and a dodgy moment early on when he let the ball get away from him after he’d tried to dive to get it. He’s absolutely got a mistake in him, but he wasn’t to blame for last night.
Grimmer - 4 - typical Grimmer performance; great attacking outlet, inconsistent final ball and poor defensively. Equally not helped by whatever formation we tried to play.
Willis - 5 - didn’t do too much wrong directly, but as an experienced player, he should have got hold of Rhead. His pace saves him from being a bang average defender.
McDonald - 2 - I said before the game he shouldn’t play as he gets constantly bullied. Guess what happened? Absolute liability; get out of the team.
Haynes - 5 - offered an outlet and was made to look poor due to Shipley’s lack of movement in front of him. Defensively he can be questionable, but he is was not the weakest link last night. Equally I’d have played Stokes in this game, as it was obvious Haynes would be targeted.
Kelly - 3 - non-existent and pointless. His performance on Friday was obviously the outlier. Although in fairness, I have no idea where MR was asking him to play.
Doyle - 7 - only player who cared. He tried to deal with Rhead alone and was in the ref’s ear where he could be. He tried to do it all alone, which isn’t ideal for someone who isn’t actually that good at football. At one point we had a throw in late in the game, and he was the only one attempting to provide an option, despite the fact he was the oldest on the pitch (I presume).
Bayliss - 6 - good goal and a player I’d always have in the team as he is literally our only spark of creativity. He was quiet for long periods last night, but I at least have some hope when he had the ball, as opppsed to literally everyone else.
Shipley - 5 - well taken goal, but otherwise he was poor offensively. I feel for him as he’s not a left midfielder, but he never takes chances. Twice last night if he’d have gambled in then box he might have got on the end of a cross. Try him at left back.
McNulty - 5 - didn’t do much, but had poor service and was played out of position. Absolutely wasted on the wing.
JCH - 5 - I know everyone loves him, but I’m still not exactly sure what he offers, other than an attitude and a dive. He clearly has talent, and I believe he’ll come good, but he really doesn’t do enough for a player who should be head and shoulders above. His touch let’s him down too much as well.
Subs
Ponti - 4 - I’m sure he’ll come good, but can we all agree he’s not the messiah now?
Biamou - 5 - did all he could with the header and should have had a pen, but nothing else of note.
Robins - 2 - appalling team selection and tactics. The players looked clueless, we had zero width, yet still were overran in midfield. There tactic was clear, so surely we should have either changed how we dealt with Rhead or closed down the deep long balls sooner.
Poor substitutions and a lack of adaptability was again evident.
I like him, but I am becoming increasingly frustrated.
Joy Division
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Burge 4
Grimmer 4
Haynes 3
McDonald 4
Willis 5
Doyle 7
Kelly 5
Shipley 5
Bayliss 6
McNulty 4
JCH 5
Biamou 4
Ponticelli 4
Robins 1
Robins was tactically out done yesterday and his rant at the players only covered that fact. If I was one of the players I'd be fucking livid with him....even though they were dogshit last night.
Couple of things that need addressing in the summer, we need to sort the goalkeeping situation out. Burge is just too prone to error, he can't instill any confidence at the back with those performances. We need two new full backs, Grimmer isn't good enough and Haynes never has been.
Grimmer 4
Haynes 3
McDonald 4
Willis 5
Doyle 7
Kelly 5
Shipley 5
Bayliss 6
McNulty 4
JCH 5
Biamou 4
Ponticelli 4
Robins 1
Robins was tactically out done yesterday and his rant at the players only covered that fact. If I was one of the players I'd be fucking livid with him....even though they were dogshit last night.
Couple of things that need addressing in the summer, we need to sort the goalkeeping situation out. Burge is just too prone to error, he can't instill any confidence at the back with those performances. We need two new full backs, Grimmer isn't good enough and Haynes never has been.
Mucca Mad Boys
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That description describes all the defenders quite well. But particularly applies to McDonald - he lost 3 headers that led to goals and Grimmer was out of position for goals 3 and 4 and got skinned by Palmer for goal number 2. Willis and Haynes also share the blame for goal 3 but Grimmer and McDonald could’ve prevented that goal — the replays demonstrate that. So, comparing Haynes to the others, he most certainly played better. In this context, it means he wasn’t as bad and wasn’t directly at fault for any of the goals. I’ve tried to reflect that in the 5 rating I gave him. Grimmer was also targeted by Palmer for the high balls and it’s a shrewd tactic, tall strikers like Rhead and Palmer should probably should beat smaller, leaner full backs.
Haynes made two v good tackles on the wing, against his man, but was bullied by Rhead, which didn’t lead to anything of substance, did it? Whereas McDonald, a 6”3 CB, got bullied by the man he was marking, which led to 3 goals. We conceded 3 goals from flick ons. So who deserves a worse rating?
ccfc_Tom
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I agree mcdonald was shocking. I would have subbed him at 2-2 at the latest for davies, was clear he wasnt going to step up and improve in the game. A couple of tackles by haynes on tired players didnt improve the rating i would have given him though. He put us under constant pressure with his passing. He indirectly contributed to us conceding. Id give robins the lowest rating for not reacting to what he was seeing. After the game he slated the defence yet made no changes during it.
fernandopartridge
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Burge 5
Grimmer 5 - could have done better with goals, I do have a bit of sympathy for him as he must be tired constantly covering for two players
Willis 5
McDonald 4 - attack the ball you great lump
Haynes 5
Doyle 7 - tried to keep us going, great industry
Kelly 6 - pushed that bit further forward, got involved
Bayliss 5.5 - good in flashes but invisible when we're out of possession
Shipley 5.5 - goal masked an otherwise anonymous performance
JCH 7 - is a better focal point to the attack, unlucky to get substituted
McNulty 6 - couple of times he tried to go alone when a pass was on, notably while the game was 1-1 and Bayliss was stood on the 18 yard line waiting for a pull back
Subs:
Biamou 6 - great save for his header, should he have scored though?
Ponticelli 4 - unforgivable miss
Grimmer 5 - could have done better with goals, I do have a bit of sympathy for him as he must be tired constantly covering for two players
Willis 5
McDonald 4 - attack the ball you great lump
Haynes 5
Doyle 7 - tried to keep us going, great industry
Kelly 6 - pushed that bit further forward, got involved
Bayliss 5.5 - good in flashes but invisible when we're out of possession
Shipley 5.5 - goal masked an otherwise anonymous performance
JCH 7 - is a better focal point to the attack, unlucky to get substituted
McNulty 6 - couple of times he tried to go alone when a pass was on, notably while the game was 1-1 and Bayliss was stood on the 18 yard line waiting for a pull back
Subs:
Biamou 6 - great save for his header, should he have scored though?
Ponticelli 4 - unforgivable miss
Mucca Mad Boys
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Without a doubt, McDonald has been a liability in the last 3 home games than Haynes has been probably all season. Grimmer too. I’m baffled that both these players form just going to pot this last few games. It’s comical in all the wrong ways.
Davies needs to come in for sure. I’d possibly consider Dion KE atop at RB, he surely can’t be that defensively? But, does he the engine to play that wing back role? I haven’t seen much of him so I wouldn’t know.
Warwickhunt
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Agree I thought Grimmer was at fault in 3 of the goals but taking into account your comments about no support I would play Willis at right back and Grimmer as right wing half which would counter the lack of support down the right side. Play Daniels in the centre and hope that he can cover the McDonald's failings as well. Haynes is not strong enough and needs to get some upper body strength and suggest he spends the closed season in the gym
Malaka
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Burge 2
Grimmer 4 Benefit of doubt (off Day)
Haynes -3 He should retire, he is shite!!! cant pass, cant throw a ball, I have had enough of trying to see any positives about him
McDonald 1 WTF has happened to him?
Willis 4 Not right since he returned from injury
Doyle 7 Worked his socks off, cant fault him
Kelly 5 OK in patches
Shipley 5 Nicely taken goal
Bayliss 6 I will not slag him off, did his best and has a lot to learn
McNulty 5 Played out of position, not his fault
JCH 6 I like this lad, great attitude and scary
Biamou 2 It wasn't a penalty stop moaning and get on with the game. The ref will not say oh! sorry old chap, I got that wrong, shall we go back and make amends? No! get on with the fucking game!
Ponticelli 3 Bottled it
Grimmer 4 Benefit of doubt (off Day)
Haynes -3 He should retire, he is shite!!! cant pass, cant throw a ball, I have had enough of trying to see any positives about him
McDonald 1 WTF has happened to him?
Willis 4 Not right since he returned from injury
Doyle 7 Worked his socks off, cant fault him
Kelly 5 OK in patches
Shipley 5 Nicely taken goal
Bayliss 6 I will not slag him off, did his best and has a lot to learn
McNulty 5 Played out of position, not his fault
JCH 6 I like this lad, great attitude and scary
Biamou 2 It wasn't a penalty stop moaning and get on with the game. The ref will not say oh! sorry old chap, I got that wrong, shall we go back and make amends? No! get on with the fucking game!
Ponticelli 3 Bottled it
fernandopartridge
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It was an entertaining game to be honest, it softened the defeat for me. Like I keep saying we weren't soundly beaten, Lincoln were just far more clinical, they'd have buried the chances we had.
rob9872
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Burge – 5 – couple of decent stops, couldn’t do much with first 3, felt he should have done better with the last
Grimmer – 4 – going forward was ok, defensively caught out of position too often
Willis – 6 – I thought the best in the defence last night and let down by those around him. Distribution better too.
McDonald – 3 – dreadful game. I’d like to think he’s got it out of his system, but since back from injury has been poor and not the player we had at the start of the season. Doesn’t look sharp or match fit, so hopefully better to come.
Haynes – 2 – wrong side too often, too lightweight and bullied all game. We all agreed in car before the game that Stokes should play this one (and I know he’s not been great either!)
Shipley – 5 – good finish and had someok moments, but gave the ball away too often and it’s now time to take him off corners. Delivery was without variation and nowhere near the standard needed again.
Doyle – 7 – would have been my man of the match. Without doing an awful lot, he led by example and covered every blade. You could see that he cared and wanted to drag the others to his standard. If the whole team worked as hard as him, that result wouldn’t have happened.
Kelly – 6 – some good moments but if he’s not playing central doesn’t offer much and I was calling for Bayliss in the middle before Friday, so not his fault a square peg in a round hole (as always with City!)
Bayliss – 6 – nice finish, decent touches but still lots to learn – particularly about when to release the ball.
JCH – 6 – stood up well to them and led the line ok but without ever really feeling he was a threat. Difficult game without good service.
McNulty – 5 – not one of his better games, but dragged out too wide and no service into him. One occasion he could have pulled the trigger and went looking for a penalty instead which was disappointing.
Biamou – 6 – unlucky not to get a penalty I thought but haven’t seen it back yet. Perhaps lucky not to be sent off too.
Ponti – 5 – no opportunity to make a real impact but one decent effort from distance over the bar and one easy chance he should have put away, also over the bar.
Robins – 4 – if he was tinkering from Friday then the formation and personnel I’d have left apart from perhaps Stokes at LB. Didn’t react to going behind, didn’t swap Kelly to the middle until 3-2 should have got to HT at 2-2 and looked poorly prepared without player seemingly knowing their basic jobs. Throw ins and set pieces a particular disappointment.
Ref – 0 – if that’s what the PL has to offer, they’re no better than the dross we normally get. Didn’t have control of it, missed obvious things, should have booked their players much sooner instead of waving yellow cards like confetti after 80 minutes. Think he missed an obvious pen to make it 3-3 before they immediately went down the other end and scored.
Lincoln players – 9 – we were better than they were, but they were much cleverer. Not just in time wasting, but systematically fouling without being cautioned (almost in turn). Getting into dangerous areas, and looking threatening and winning every physical battle. Looked like men against boys.
City fans – 5 – decent crowd to what we have been getting, although expected 15k+ last night, but been more vocal with half that number. Thought the support was too quiet for too long.
Lincoln fans – 5 – the best atmosphere from away fans we’ve seen this season and nice to see a team travel in decent numbers for a change. Noisy, gave great backing to their lads and would have scored them much higher but for being seemingly being twattish towards us after half time instead of just getting behind their own. I know it’s mostly banter and we do it too, but seemed pretty classless.
Grimmer – 4 – going forward was ok, defensively caught out of position too often
Willis – 6 – I thought the best in the defence last night and let down by those around him. Distribution better too.
McDonald – 3 – dreadful game. I’d like to think he’s got it out of his system, but since back from injury has been poor and not the player we had at the start of the season. Doesn’t look sharp or match fit, so hopefully better to come.
Haynes – 2 – wrong side too often, too lightweight and bullied all game. We all agreed in car before the game that Stokes should play this one (and I know he’s not been great either!)
Shipley – 5 – good finish and had someok moments, but gave the ball away too often and it’s now time to take him off corners. Delivery was without variation and nowhere near the standard needed again.
Doyle – 7 – would have been my man of the match. Without doing an awful lot, he led by example and covered every blade. You could see that he cared and wanted to drag the others to his standard. If the whole team worked as hard as him, that result wouldn’t have happened.
Kelly – 6 – some good moments but if he’s not playing central doesn’t offer much and I was calling for Bayliss in the middle before Friday, so not his fault a square peg in a round hole (as always with City!)
Bayliss – 6 – nice finish, decent touches but still lots to learn – particularly about when to release the ball.
JCH – 6 – stood up well to them and led the line ok but without ever really feeling he was a threat. Difficult game without good service.
McNulty – 5 – not one of his better games, but dragged out too wide and no service into him. One occasion he could have pulled the trigger and went looking for a penalty instead which was disappointing.
Biamou – 6 – unlucky not to get a penalty I thought but haven’t seen it back yet. Perhaps lucky not to be sent off too.
Ponti – 5 – no opportunity to make a real impact but one decent effort from distance over the bar and one easy chance he should have put away, also over the bar.
Robins – 4 – if he was tinkering from Friday then the formation and personnel I’d have left apart from perhaps Stokes at LB. Didn’t react to going behind, didn’t swap Kelly to the middle until 3-2 should have got to HT at 2-2 and looked poorly prepared without player seemingly knowing their basic jobs. Throw ins and set pieces a particular disappointment.
Ref – 0 – if that’s what the PL has to offer, they’re no better than the dross we normally get. Didn’t have control of it, missed obvious things, should have booked their players much sooner instead of waving yellow cards like confetti after 80 minutes. Think he missed an obvious pen to make it 3-3 before they immediately went down the other end and scored.
Lincoln players – 9 – we were better than they were, but they were much cleverer. Not just in time wasting, but systematically fouling without being cautioned (almost in turn). Getting into dangerous areas, and looking threatening and winning every physical battle. Looked like men against boys.
City fans – 5 – decent crowd to what we have been getting, although expected 15k+ last night, but been more vocal with half that number. Thought the support was too quiet for too long.
Lincoln fans – 5 – the best atmosphere from away fans we’ve seen this season and nice to see a team travel in decent numbers for a change. Noisy, gave great backing to their lads and would have scored them much higher but for being seemingly being twattish towards us after half time instead of just getting behind their own. I know it’s mostly banter and we do it too, but seemed pretty classless.
Grendel
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People target Haynes as he is a consistent liability
The notion he offers something going forward is a myth and anyway his prime role is to defend. He cannot stop crosses, wanders all over the pitch and seems incapable of having this coached out of him. Stokes may be limited in movement but he is very strong, very disciplined and also solid in the air. All this things are required for a defender and Haynes has none of them
Esoterica
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I didn't think we were that bad overall last night and could have had 4 or 5 ourselves. It was just undermined by horrible individual errors again. Played some decent footy when we got the ball down, showed good spirit first half to come back into it but a few of our players are not used to playing a full season and McNulty, McDonald, Grimmer, 3 players who have been key players at stages this season, have gone off the boil a bit recently with the latter 2 making key mistakes that have lead to goals - a bit of mental and physical fatigue I suspect. When your key players start to become inconsistent it exposes the frailties in the rest of the team then, Ponticelli feels the pressure and misses a couple of golden chances, Haynes flaws are exposed because he's needed to contribute rather than hide away, Shipley isn't the type of footballer who is ever going to change a game alone etc.
We don't need many signings for next season but the ones we do make need to have more leadership about them.
We don't need many signings for next season but the ones we do make need to have more leadership about them.
Grendel
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If by some miracle we get promoted we need a lot of new signings
Mucca Mad Boys
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You’re talking about the Stokes we had under Mowbray. He’s nowhere near that same player. If Haynes really is as bad as his detractors make out, that reflects on Stokes in a very bad way.
Also, Stokes playing last night would have made no difference whatsoever. If McDonald got bullied aerially, what makes you think Stokes would’ve faired better than he or Haynes? It’s wishful thinking.
In terms of culpability for the goals, you can pinpoint Grimmer for 2 goals, and McDonald for 3. The whole defensive unit collapsed for their 2nd but neither Haynes nor Willis were directly culpable for any of the goals. But they’re all responsible for the collective failure.
Nick
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Stokes in better in the air than Haynes.
McDonald isn't actually very good in the air at all either so not really a benchmark.