Wasps current finances & hope (9 Viewers)

[Nick]

Oh talking shite again. Bet JLR are banging on the finance directors door to get that deal done. Oh hold on they haven’t got a finance director. Oh banging on the CEOs door. Oh hold on they haven’t got a CEO. So Nicky “Tim fisher in all but name” it is.

It’s hilarious. The training ground bollocks is straight out of the sisu stadium excuses book. “We’ve been looking”, “we are close”, “it’s difficult”, “we’ve identified two sites”

Ha ha ha ha

What are the late accounts excuses out of?

It's like Michael Doyle for example ripping the piss out of CCFC while he still plays for us and Jordan Ponticelli and Marc McNulty rumoured to want to leave because they aren't happy with politics at the club and them not being paid. To counter that, Robins is wheeled out to say "they are under contract" and then start saying about a new stadium.

 

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[italiahorse]

Oh talking shite again. Bet JLR are banging on the finance directors door to get that deal done. Oh hold on they haven’t got a finance director. Oh banging on the CEOs door. Oh hold on they haven’t got a CEO. So Nicky “Tim fisher in all but name” it is.

It’s hilarious. The training ground bollocks is straight out of the sisu stadium excuses book. “We’ve been looking”, “we are close”, “it’s difficult”, “we’ve identified two sites”

Ha ha ha ha

Higgs is a poor site if you have ever been there. Out of town is better. Watch this space.

 

[Nick]

Those in the know ?

Nah, those who think they are in the know because they are benefiting from them being here so push their shite.

Like I said, it's no different to when you were telling people to back SISU because they were saving us and to listen to you.

 

[italiahorse]

What are the late accounts excuses out of?

It's like Michael Doyle for example ripping the piss out of CCFC while he still plays for us and Jordan Ponticelli and Marc McNulty rumoured to want to leave because they aren't happy with politics at the club and them not being paid. To counter that, Robins is wheeled out to say "they are under contract" and then start saying about a new stadium.

You’ll do your self a mischief worrying about this stuff.

 

[chiefdave]

If you're Wasps and there's nothing to the rumour of talks with Brentford and / or sale and lease back of the Ricoh you'd have a statement out in seconds. You don't even need a PR firm for that, just someone with the password to social media. All you need to say is there is no truth whatsoever to the rumours.

Remember this is a club that until the day they announced the move to the Ricoh were insisting to their supporters they were moving back to London.

 

[chiefdave]

What ever happened to this :
• The commitment that any deal relating to the Ricoh Arena would not be approved unless the following three tests were satisfied: (1) A good deal for the City (2) The security and future of Coventry City Football Club (3) The security and future of Coventry Rugby Club • The need to ensure the continued regeneration in the North East of the City. • The long term commitment to the City given by Wasps, who are focussed onthe success of their Club and were committed to delivering an ambitious programme for the community and to bringing more sport to Coventry. • The expectation that the Ricoh Arena could now go from strength to strength, raising Coventry’s profile both nationally and internationally. • The intention of Wasps to develop the Ricoh Arena as a conference centre plus a training facility in the future would benefit the City

I've made a couple of attempts to get some answers on this but the council just stonewall it with 'commercially confidential'.

 

[Grendel]

Higgs is a poor site if you have ever been there. Out of town is better. Watch this space.

Wasps players never even turn up to that site they are supposed to train at. They have no money and are trying to lease done cheap land in leamington with basic facilities. The £7 million investment was an outright lie as they have zero cash. If this was sisu you’d be all over it like a rash you clown.

 

[chiefdave]

It’s a technical issue. Stop worrying

Is Byng emailing in the forms for them?

 

[Nick]

Higgs is a poor site if you have ever been there. Out of town is better. Watch this space.

Course it is.

They sacked it off because they decided it is a poor site did they? They picked that out of 17 sites.

This was the end of quite a long search process. We actually looked at 17 different sites, not only in Coventry itself but across Warwickshire and in some of the areas close to Coventry.

The Higgs Centre comes to the top of the pile for a few reasons. One is the proximity to the stadium, another is being in central Coventry.

 

[italiahorse]

Nah, those who think they are in the know because they are benefiting from them being here so push their shite.

Like I said, it's no different to when you were telling people to back SISU because they were saving us and to listen to you.

I’d sooner change my opinion once things move on than continue to ride the same 3 legged pony into the unknown.

 

[Nick]

You’ll do your self a mischief worrying about this stuff.

Not half as worried if Wasps go tits up as people like you and the Telegraph.

 

[Nick]

I’d sooner change my opinion once things move on than continue to ride the same 3 legged pony into the unknown.

Yes, going from 3 legged pony to 3 legged pony really gives you credit.

Especially as you were the most pro sisu person with your posts I have ever seen, even more so than RFC.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Higgs is a poor site if you have ever been there. Out of town is better. Watch this space.

They have form for it to be fair.

 

[oldfiver]

Anybody else heard anything?

Practically everyone working at the Ricoh?

 

[oldfiver]

Higgs is a poor site if you have ever been there. Out of town is better. Watch this space.

So what happened to this promise:
The intention of Wasps to develop the Ricoh Arena as a conference centre plus a training facility in the future would benefit the City

 

[Moff]

They don’t read this forum we analyse theirs daily remember

Who is the 'We' you refer to analysing their forum daily? It appears to be you, and Grendel winding them up.
Not interested in their forum, only in them moving back to London.
Keep batting.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Oh talking shite again. Bet JLR are banging on the finance directors door to get that deal done. Oh hold on they haven’t got a finance director. Oh banging on the CEOs door. Oh hold on they haven’t got a CEO. So Nicky “Tim fisher in all but name” it is.

It’s hilarious. The training ground bollocks is straight out of the sisu stadium excuses book. “We’ve been looking”, “we are close”, “it’s difficult”, “we’ve identified two sites”

Ha ha ha ha

Indeed. If I didn't know better I would think Eastwood and Fisher are the same person

 

[Moff]

Higgs is a poor site if you have ever been there. Out of town is better. Watch this space.

Didn't you tell us to watch this space four years ago waiting for the announcement of the JLR stadium.
That went well.

Seriously you are making yourself look a bigger clown than normal

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Higgs is a poor site if you have ever been there. Out of town is better. Watch this space.

Why do you spout such rubbish?

 

[Liquid Gold]

Nobody is going to buy into the Ricoh with that mad bond scheme attached to it. The only way to run that stadium successfully is without debt attached.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Nobody is going to buy into the Ricoh with that mad bond scheme attached to it. The only way to run that stadium successfully is without debt attached.

Or without a structural survey considering the subsidence rumours

 

[italiahorse]

Why do you spout such rubbish?

I’ve always thought it was a poor site for academy. The security is inadequate and access by the public through the site is by a cross cross of footpaths. Nothing to do with the politics.

 

[italiahorse]

Didn't you tell us to watch this space four years ago waiting for the announcement of the JLR stadium.
That went well.

Seriously you are making yourself look a bigger clown than normal

When a new stadium sponsor is announced come back.
For the record at the time I actual said it was LR. Whether they are still interested remains to be seen.

 

[Ian1779]

Or without a structural survey considering the subsidence rumours

Imagine if we were made homeless because it was condemned.... where would we go, what would be reactions from fans?

 

[Nick]

I’ve always thought it was a poor site for academy. The security is inadequate and access by the public through the site is by a cross cross of footpaths. Nothing to do with the politics.

Yet it was top of 17 sites for them?

 

[Nick]

Imagine if we were made homeless because it was condemned.... where would we go, what would be reactions from fans?

Considering some people have said SISU are to blame for Wasps late accounts and them not building at the Higgs I could hazard a guess.

 

[Ian1779]

Yet it was top of 17 sites for them?

It was top of the 'get a site for nothing and let other people pay for it' list.

 

[Nick]

Their version of Keiran Crowley (ex press officer) seems to think the Wasps statement is strange and suggests there is a problem....

Also this.

Steve Brown: RFU chief concerned over Premiership club finances

One of the principal investors in Saracens, South African businessman Johann Rupert, recently withdrew his financial support for the club, while the BBC has learned of at least two Premiership sides who have been late paying agents' fees and image rights this season.

I guess it's SISU telling the BBC?

 

[chiefdave]

Yet it was top of 17 sites for them?

Which of course blows Italia's theory out of the water. They are either not the business geniuses he claims and managed to somehow, with nearly 20 sites to choose from, select one that wasn't fit for purpose or, as is more likely, nobody would pay for it and they don't pay for anything themselves.

 

[chiefdave]

Their version of Keiran Crowley (ex press officer) seems to think the Wasps statement is strange and suggests there is a problem....

Speaking to the resident rugby experts at our head office the opinion is there is something to this.

Apparently, despite working for the Mail, the chap that wrote the article is respected and not the sort of journalist who would make something up for clicks.

 

[italiahorse]

Yet it was top of 17 sites for them?

Hate to see the others then

 

[Nick]

Hate to see the others then

You are just as shit at trying to play it down as the telegraph are.

Yet again, you tie yourself up with contradictions and a random strange pretence of being in the know.

 

[Moff]

When a new stadium sponsor is announced come back.
For the record at the time I actual said it was LR. Whether they are still interested remains to be seen.

Moving the goalposts again, what a joke.

You said JLR were to be the stadium sponsors 4 years ago, and came out with your tired old line, 'watch this space' and have continually done so incorrectly for 4 years.

Now its but, but, but, but from poor Italia trying to prove you are in the know, when nothing to that affect has happened.

I don't doubt one day they may get a new sponsor but it wont be related to the bullshit you have spouted as fact for the last 4 years.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Higgs is a poor site if you have ever been there. Out of town is better. Watch this space.

You have finally got one right out of town is better and I hope it’s right out somewhere near to London where they belong.

 

[Moff]

Their version of Keiran Crowley (ex press officer) seems to think the Wasps statement is strange and suggests there is a problem....

Also this.

Steve Brown: RFU chief concerned over Premiership club finances



I guess it's SISU telling the BBC?

I have consistently said for the last couple of years that their finances are suspect, this has come from people I know who have a lot of knowledge of the game, and not some car park owning, jonny come lately fan who thinks he is on the inside when he couldn't be further away.

Its clear to see that the playing budget is stretched beyond its capabilities, whilst they have liabilities on the stadium, and with bond repayments. Crowds aren't what they should, and the signs are there re the training facilities and squad changes that imply all is not well.
Forgetting Italia's flannel, its clear to see that all is not well, and now a leading Rugby journalist Chris Foy, and Steve Brown (generally about all clubs) have suggested finances are stretched, and there are issues.