Tommy Robinson (20 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

In fairness chief you've posted up a fact that shows that grooming gangs are almost equally Asian or White British. That means that an Asian person in the UK is roughly 13 times more likely to be in a grooming gang doesn't it?

But the problem is you're basing that on a stat in a report that even the authors of the report state is not reliable and have explicitly stated should not be used to draw the conclusion you have.

As I said in an earlier post that study had unknown, ie: unrecorded, at 38% and investigation by the authors of the report suggested that Asians were far more likely to have their ethnicity recorded.

 

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[covcity4life]

Not being argumentative it just frustrates me that’s all .
I was in the army , i went to Iraq Afghanistan Kuwait and I spent time in Israel Training on UAVs .
I’ve seen the propaganda machine at work , I’ve seen how nice people treat each other in these countries .
I can’t buy into the old “religion of peace “ nonsense .
Given half a chance their religion comes first they would drop any morals they have to do whatever for their god , many people of other religions are the same but like I said Islam is a different beast

trained in Israel
thinks jews unfairly called enemy by middle east muslims


connected?

 

[The Lurker]

Mother-of-five who encouraged terror attacks is spared jail

Encourage terror attacks on our country & get spared Jail, report on scum bags raping the children of our country & get sent to jail. am I missing something?

 

[chiefdave]

Encourage terror attacks on our country & get spared Jail

There's serious problems with sentencing in our judicial system. Its practically random.

How on earth can a judge have someone plead guilty to an offence like this and let them walk out of court.

 

[covcity4life]

yup

terrible lenient sentences sent out and it annoys EVERYONE, but those easily led turn to the right to help vent anger

sad cycle

 

[Tommo72]

Tommy Robinson says it how it is and he has highlighted lots of issues the mainstream media choose not to. I have followed him closely for two years now and the guy has a lot more about him than the cheap comments about his past - you only have to look at the huge increase in his followers and the calibre of some of those following him....moderate individuals now agreeing with him and those that would have refused to give him the time of day in the past also supporting him.

Clearly they have wanted him out of the way for some time, the harassment and unfair treatment he has experienced at the hands of the police has been disgraceful.

This prison sentence will only grow his popularity, no doubts.

 

[Sick Boy]

There's serious problems with sentencing in our judicial system. Its practically random.

How on earth can a judge have someone plead guilty to an offence like this and let them walk out of court.

Then say it's better she gets back to her children ASAP?! If anything they need to get away from her.

 

[martcov]

Tommy Robinson says it how it is and he has highlighted lots of issues the mainstream media choose not to. I have followed him closely for two years now and the guy has a lot more about him than the cheap comments about his past - you only have to look at the huge increase in his followers and the calibre of some of those following him....moderate individuals now agreeing with him and those that would have refused to give him the time of day in the past also supporting him.

Clearly they have wanted him out of the way for some time, the harassment and unfair treatment he has experienced at the hands of the police has been disgraceful.

This prison sentence will only grow his popularity, no doubts.

Who are they?

He repeated an offence which threatened the outcome of a trial. He knew what would happen and had been told by a judge in a previous case why that would happen.

What is unfair about that?

And, yes, I have looked at the caliber of some of the people that follow him. Pretty frightening.

 

[Tommo72]

Who are they?

He repeated an offence which threatened the outcome of a trial. He knew what would happen and had been told by a judge in a previous case why that would happen.

What is unfair about that?

And, yes, I have looked at the caliber of some of the people that follow him. Pretty frightening.

Typical outdated view mate, clearly the whole thing was a farce. How was the outcome of the trial at risk please explain to me? He had already given permission by the police to film....

I guess you also think he’s a racist as well...

 

[martcov]

Typical outdated view mate, clearly the whole thing was a farce. How was the outcome of the trial at risk please explain to me? He had already given permission by the police to film....

I guess you also think he’s a racist as well...

To film or to talk?

Lawyers and a judge have already repeatedly explained how he could have affected the trial. Google it.

Maybe he is a racist. The people he is after are of a different skin colour.

 

[martcov]

Typical outdated view mate, clearly the whole thing was a farce. How was the outcome of the trial at risk please explain to me? He had already given permission by the police to film....

I guess you also think he’s a racist as well...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tommy-robinson-arrest/

 

[Nick]

To film or to talk?

Lawyers and a judge have already repeatedly explained how he could have affected the trial. Google it.

Maybe he is a racist. The people he is after are of a different skin colour.

Isn't it a different religion rather than skin colour?

 

[clint van damme]

Typical outdated view mate, clearly the whole thing was a farce. How was the outcome of the trial at risk please explain to me? He had already given permission by the police to film....

I guess you also think he’s a racist as well...

he pleaded guilty on both occasion didn't he?
He's an idiot though personally I think sentence is very harsh.
It's nonsense to say robinson is talking about issues others are frightened to there's a whole host of people discussing the subjects of immigration and/or islamic fundamentalism far more eruditely than him and waters.

Just off the top of my head I can think of Douglas Murray, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, (was for years before he died) and Peter Hitchens.

 

[Sick Boy]

he pleaded guilty on both occasion didn't he?
He's an idiot though personally I think sentence is very harsh.
It's nonsense to say robinson is talking about issues others are frightened to there's a whole host of people discussing the subjects of immigration and/or islamic fundamentalism far more eruditely than him and waters.

Just off the top of my head I can think of Douglas Murray, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, (was for years before he died) and Peter Hitchens.

Wasn't he already on a suspended sentence?

 

[Tommo72]

Wasn't he already on a suspended sentence?

He was.

Lots of interpretations on the whole incident obviously.

Two years ago I thought he was a thug etc but I’ve followed him and changed my views on him, like many many others. He’s actually an intelligent, passionate guy who’s done lots of positive work for charities and various individuals. Yes he does have a chequered history but he left the EDL for a reason and I admire him for his forthright approach and to an extent bravery.

 

[skybluetony176]

Isn't it a different religion rather than skin colour?

That’s OK then. I’m sure once hero Tommy has saved the world by showing Muslims the door he’ll retire from saving the world never to be heard of again.

Or maybe he’ll move on to another demographic of non whites to blame for stuff because he’s an attention seeking narcissist who has to be noticed because the reality is he’s insignificant but can always rely on people with prejudices to pay attention to him.

 

[Tommo72]

That’s OK then. I’m sure once hero Tommy has saved the world by showing Muslims the door he’ll retire from saving the world never to be heard of again.

Or maybe he’ll move on to another demographic of non whites to blame for stuff because he’s an attention seeking narcissist who has to be noticed because the reality is he’s insignificant but can always rely on people with prejudices to pay attention to him.

Insignificant? Has to be the post of the day this...

 

[clint van damme]

Wasn't he already on a suspended sentence?

yeah. Pleaded guilty first time, suspended sentence, reoffended - jail.

 

[Grendel]

He was.

Lots of interpretations on the whole incident obviously.

Two years ago I thought he was a thug etc but I’ve followed him and changed my views on him, like many many others. He’s actually an intelligent, passionate guy who’s done lots of positive work for charities and various individuals. Yes he does have a chequered history but he left the EDL for a reason and I admire him for his forthright approach and to an extent bravery.

Robinson exploits the media and creates false stories - including ones regarding charities to portray himself in a positive way.

 

[Tommo72]

Robinson exploits the media and creates false stories - including ones regarding charities to portray himself in a positive way.

I think to an extent yes but he isn’t the racist etc that everyone thinks he is, it’s just an easy thing to say and he’s challenged many and they’ve changed their minds.

 

[skybluetony176]

Tommy Robinson intelligent. That’s a classic. Just because he’s more intelligent than the dumbo heads who think he’s intelligent doesn’t make him intelligent. Just means he’s got the intelligence to outsmart people of less intelligence.

 

[Tommo72]

Tommy Robinson intelligent. That’s a classic. Just because he’s more intelligent than the dumbo heads who think he’s intelligent doesn’t make him intelligent. Just means he’s got the intelligence to outsmart people of less intelligence.

Like I said I’ve followed him closely and I’m a fairly intelligent guy so we’ll agree to disagree on that.

 

[Ashdown]

It was always going to be easier for the authorities to tackle noisy individuals like TR than try and grasp the enormous magnitude of the the almighty fuck up of letting huge amounts of radical Muslims form completely separate communities to the rest of British society.

 

[Sick Boy]

yeah. Pleaded guilty first time, suspended sentence, reoffended - jail.

He can't really complain about the harsh sentence then.

 

[skybluetony176]

Insignificant? Has to be the post of the day this...

He is insignificant. Unless you think behaving in a way that could see pedophiles walk away Scott free is a positive thing.

 

[Tommo72]

He is insignificant. Unless you think behaving in a way that could see pedophiles walk away Scott free is a positive thing.

Yeh because insignificant individuals get hundreds of thousands of followers and tens of thousands marching in their name....and he’s brought to the attention many cases of pedophilia and gangs do not sure what you are grasping at there.

 

[Grendel]

It was always going to be easier for the authorities to tackle noisy individuals like TR than try and grasp the enormous magnitude of the the almighty fuck up of letting huge amounts of radical Muslims form completely separate communities to the rest of British society.

Well it’s hardly tracking someone down when they are under a suspended sentence for filming a trial and they go to another trial and film it

 

[Tommo72]

Well it’s hardly tracking someone down when they are under a suspended sentence for filming a trial and they go to another trial and film it

He’s tracked everywhere he goes

 

[clint van damme]

I think to an extent yes but he isn’t the racist etc that everyone thinks he is, it’s just an easy thing to say and he’s challenged many and they’ve changed their minds.

the problem is he attracts racist and extreme right wingers.
Look at the videos of marchers attacking police yesterday, aren't these the people who are supposed to be concerned with upholding British law?

Look at this fella from yesterday

if anyone knows him, can you tell him that he needs to have a word with his tattooist, Hitlers thumb is on the wrong side of his hand.

 

[skybluetony176]

Like I said I’ve followed him closely and I’m a fairly intelligent guy so we’ll agree to disagree on that.

You clearly ain’t as intelligent as you think you are. He’s pulling a very simple con trick of pretending something isn’t happening that has until for a very specific point of law it can’t happen for a period of time, all the while he’s perfectly aware of this given his prior conviction for it and people of a lower intelligence than him fall for it. I can remember as a child thinking that the magician really had cut a woman in half. At a certain point in life I gained the intelligence to work out it was an illusion. That’s what Tommy Robinson is, an illusionist.

 

[martcov]

It was always going to be easier for the authorities to tackle noisy individuals like TR than try and grasp the enormous magnitude of the the almighty fuck up of letting huge amounts of radical Muslims form completely separate communities to the rest of British society.

„Robinson was jailed for contempt of court after he used social media to broadcast details of a trial which is subject to blanket reporting restrictions.“

End of story. The rest is a concoction of a brave man fighting „them“ ( whoever they are ). Self publicist fools people again.

I am for pursuing the trial to it’s conclusion and making sure that the guilty get well punished.

I don’t need a txxt like TR to, apparently, represent me.

 

[Tommo72]

You clearly ain’t as intelligent as you think you are. He’s pulling a very simple con trick of pretending something isn’t happening that has until for a very specific point of law it can’t happen for a period of time, all the while he’s perfectly aware of this given his prior conviction for it and people of a lower intelligence than him fall for it. I can remember as a child thinking that the magician really had cut a woman in half. At a certain point in life I gained the intelligence to work out it was an illusion. That’s what Tommy Robinson is, an illusionist.

Biggest load of drivel I’ve ever read, cba to debate when you write shite like that.

 

[clint van damme]

It was always going to be easier for the authorities to tackle noisy individuals like TR than try and grasp the enormous magnitude of the the almighty fuck up of letting huge amounts of radical Muslims form completely separate communities to the rest of British society.

have you seen the videos from yesterday? They ran the police, now that's not in the same league as bombing innocent school kids in Manchester but it's pretty fucking serious.

 

[Tommo72]

the problem is he attracts racist and extreme right wingers.
Look at the videos of marchers attacking police yesterday, aren't these the people who are supposed to be concerned with upholding British law?

Look at this fella from yesterday

if anyone knows him, can you tell him that he needs to have a word with his tattooist, Hitlers thumb is on the wrong side of his hand.

Yeh I agree there is that side to his followers and that’s one of the reasons he moved away from the EDL.

 

[martcov]

Isn't it a different religion rather than skin colour?

The skin colour of the vast majority of it’s adherents is not white.