The World Cup Thread (16 Viewers)
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lifeskyblue
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Three reasons they hadn’t behaved like this before (in this tournament)
1) This was their first (and thankfully only) knockout game
2) after the third min sending off (not for any underhand tactic remember) they couldn’t afford to possibly lose another.
3) After first game they won the other two. So no need to try and intimidate etc.
No ref in this World Cup has had to face the level of disruption as the guy last night. Yes he could and should have been a little tougher at the start (should have called falcao aside and read him the riot act as captain) but he would have been castigated by the authorities.
You cannot blame refs for the bad behaviour of teams....that is down to the players and coaches alone.
You cannot blame individual refs for the inadequacies of the governing body in not taking action on serial offenders.
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Otis
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I am reading report after report of the ref losing control of the players last night.
Why is that not happening in every match? It has happened on a few occasionsin the tournament, but clearly the ref lost control last night. You can't just put that down to FIFA.
The ref last night was weak and there is no way it should have been nearly 4 minutes to the penalty kick for such a clear and obvious decision and there is no way any freekick should be two minutes in the taking of it.
The ref lost control.
Why is that not happening in every match? It has happened on a few occasionsin the tournament, but clearly the ref lost control last night. You can't just put that down to FIFA.
The ref last night was weak and there is no way it should have been nearly 4 minutes to the penalty kick for such a clear and obvious decision and there is no way any freekick should be two minutes in the taking of it.
The ref lost control.
SIR ERNIE
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Otis
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You telling me that if the ref had given Falcao a dressing down (no card) he would have been castigated after the game? Just for pulling him to one side and telling him to cool things down?
Why have other refs done it then at the World Cup?
I have seen refs go and talk to both sets of players and warn them that next time a penalty will be given or that a red card will be produced.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Anyone wish we had won the group now? Would you change places with Belgium?
I'm pretty happy where we are I think
I'm pretty happy where we are I think
Otis
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Ah, but as I said before, for me is was just a question of not wanting to see England lose and always rooting for a win.Anyone wish we had won the group now? Would you change places with Belgium?
I'm pretty happy where we are I think
It's inherent in me.
And, we did very nearly blow it last night. First half of extra time it was all Colombia and I feared the worst.
Don't know what Southgate said to them at the half time extra time break, but it clearly worked. We found just a bit more steam, energy and zip and then should have won it ourselves.
Close call in the end.
So, who don't you want to play in the final should we get there?
SkyblueBazza
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So what??? We arent talking about CCFC or their fans - we are talking about the mans patriotism & passion for England!
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SkyblueBazza
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...third place then
Otis
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Yeah, but I just think they wanted to emphasise Coventry being displayed on every screen in the world.
Always makes me smile when I see a Cov flag anywhere, be it Glastonbury, the World Cup or the cricket.
Must be a slow newsday too, mind.
Otis
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Thought the pair were interchangeable and pretty much the same thing anyway....third place then
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I think originally, man flu was invented as a masculine backlash for women having periods.
Covstu
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same, always proud when I see a city flag or top anywhere outside the city!
Liquid Gold
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That wasn't Southgate that was me. I was nervous and quiet first half of extra time with the same familiar knot in my stomach but after the break i decided it wasn't going to happen again and I'd just shout and believe. You're welcome.
Otis
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Yeah, same here. If I ever see anyone in London wearing one I feel like going up to them and giving them a hug, even if in real life they might be a mass murdering, rapist, racist, homophobe.
Otis
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Do you want to see if I can arrange for you to do the lap of honour with the players after the final when we've won the whole thing?
Liquid Gold
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You don't have that power
Covstu
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Sort of agree but I have never seen such acting up from a team like last night. They deliberately disrupted play at every occasion and the ref (who was weak) struggled to cope with this until the last 30mins where the yellows were coming out.
The headbutt incident, I would have liked him to have viewed that rather than take the word of VAR but we will never know and I suppose irrelevant. The only time Columbia stopped these antics was in extra time when they were on top of the game.
This is where FIFA do need to make an example of teams and support the refs. As much as I hate rugby there is a level of respect to the ref that cannot be challenged which needs to be instilled in football and that comes down to FIFA to do this. We all know this wont happen and this type of behaviour will continue and as a result I worry about the domestic game with VAR as we are going to see crowds of players swamp the ref on an ongoing basis week after week.
Otis
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Yeah, don't get me wrong, FIFA are very culpable here, but as you say, that ref last night was weak. There have been much stronger refs in the competition.
Sky Blue Harry H
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Have a rule where ref gives players a 2 second (or such) warning (whistle) if they are standing as a group by free kick spot, and everyone who hasn't moved is booked - would soon stop it.
Covstu
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There is but Columbia were smart about how they went about the business last night and it was rare that one individual was involved, they took it in turns which took the pressure off the last incident. Tunisia had a similar approach to this.
It will take a red card to sort this out (I believe there has only been one so far?) but I think how the refs are being briefed hasn't helped. I think with VAR FIFA have asked for some leniency around how this is managed on the pitch and the refs are paying the price. Columbia showed to respect to the ref last night but I think that was generally the exception to the teams in the WC. Our boys handled it very well, I was expecting a Alli 'bite' back at some point but they held their nerve and didn't get dragged into it. A few yellow cards could have really hurt us, even on the 'easy' side of the draw!!
Grendel
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No he didn’t and the VAR referees believed he should receive a yellow card. What does that tell you about how referees are told to approach the game
Otis
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Yeah, was expecting Alli to react. He was barely in the game though.
I think Loftus-Cheek would have been a better option.
Colombia definitely were bending the rules like no other.
Needed a stronger ref. FIFA also need to sort themselves out though
Otis
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Nothing.
The VAR has been inconsistently used all World Cup long.
Different VAR team would have more than likely said 'red.'
I like the concept of VAR but it's implementation has been all over the place at times.
Needs sorting out.
I_Saw_Shaw_Score
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The bloke has won the nation over!
Otis
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What it doesn't show is what is happening in the bottom half of the pic, where Southgate has his knees in the player's groan and is also standing on his big toe.
robbiekeane
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so third place then
Otis
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Sky_Blue_Daz
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My boss just phoned me and asked if I could work early tomorrow and Friday instead of nights Friday and Saturday
lifeskyblue
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Result. Sounds a decent boss if he did that to give you the Saturday off.
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Sky_Blue_Daz
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Yeah they are
Liquid Gold
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No football today OR tomorrow. Joke.
Esoterica
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Alli is playing too deep for me and also doesn't look 100% fit. His strength is getting beyond the striker or dropping off to link midfield and the strikers. He's not able to do either effectively from his deeper starting position. I'd drop Sterling and play Alli higher with Loftus Cheek in midfield against Croatia. Would play either Sterling or Rashford against the Swedes though as I think their pace will scare them.