Joy Division
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Ha, ha!!
Your first post was a bit dodge to be fair mate
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Your first post was a bit dodge to be fair mate
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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The only thing that is stupid is getting upset about good looking women at football matches getting 3 seconds of air time.
I actually feel sorry for anyone who is so weak they get offended by this. I also pity those who crave social brownie points by pretending they suddenly feel ashamed of it.
Otis
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If there's a general consenus that it's in any way offensive I am of course happy to delete it, but I am puzzled as to why anyone would find it offensive.
Just showed it my my daughter and all her friends that are round here at the moment and none of them can see anything wrong with it.
It was honestly made lightheartedly and never intended to cause any offence.
Hence the puzzlement.
Just showed it my my daughter and all her friends that are round here at the moment and none of them can see anything wrong with it.
It was honestly made lightheartedly and never intended to cause any offence.Hence the puzzlement.
Otis
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You are a bloke though. As I said earlier, doesn't bother me personally at all, but is it offensive to women?
I'm sure pretty much all blokes don't have that much of a problem with it, but it is something I have defintely noticed how they target who they pick out to film and show.
Joy Division
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I'm not upset at all, just a bit bemused why you are so vehemently angry that women should have an opinion on something. It doesn't anger me to see images of attractive women on TV at football matches but clearly in this world cup it has been a focus of the TV directors, and it's worth listening to the opinions of those who it might upset. How do you explain it to a young daughter who is just getting into watching football, do we tell them that to attend football matches you have to be attractive and dolled up...or just to be themselves?
It's not about me or about you, stop trying to be so outraged about it.
Joy Division
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If there's a general consenus that it's in any way offensive I am of course happy to delete it, but I am puzzled as to why anyone would find it offensive.
Just showed it my my daughter and all her friends that are round here at the moment and none of them can see anything wrong with it.
Hence the puzzlement.
Did you show it to any of her muslim friends?
Otis
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Yes.
tommydazzle
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People get muddled on this issue. We should respect the right to hold an opinion, believe in whatever but we don't have to respect that opinion or belief. There is no right to not be offended. As a secularist I find all religions offensive and an affront to the ideas of the enlightenment and potentially dangerous as based on dogma rather than reason. I don't expect anybody to be offended on my behalf though. After all, how would you protect me from all the religious symbolism I see all around me eveyday?
Religion like any other idea is fair game for ridicule, satire and comedy. It's a very dangerous road to go down if offence prevents free speech.
Religion like any other idea is fair game for ridicule, satire and comedy. It's a very dangerous road to go down if offence prevents free speech.
Otis
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Some very fair points, Tommy.
Varies all over the globe too. In the west we can say 'Jesus!' and 'For God's sake' in temper or jest, but it is completely different with Mohammed and Islam.
There's also a fine line between poking a bit of fun and being downright offensive. Depends how it was said, when it was said and who said it. Context is very important.
Honestly thought CC4L was on the wind up.
Still not sure.
tommydazzle
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Yes that's the trouble with religion, it can't take a joke and can sometimes get you killed.
lifeskyblue
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Otis
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Covstu
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It’s a fucking joke to be honest... people getting offended by everything these days. Similar to the podium girls in F1 and cycling, personally don’t bother me whether they are there or not.
Just think it’s getting too daft that a grouping of people are offended or outraged by something so we automatically ban it rather than give a choice. Similar situation with neutral gender people trying to ban skirts at schools now. Can’t you give people a choice rather than take it away!
Just think it’s getting too daft that a grouping of people are offended or outraged by something so we automatically ban it rather than give a choice. Similar situation with neutral gender people trying to ban skirts at schools now. Can’t you give people a choice rather than take it away!
eastwoodsdustman
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I asked my missus what she thought but she said she couldn’t see the telly from the kitchen.
Otis
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You thought of maybe adding some more chain links?
Grendel
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The thing is though when that bloke in poldark is blatantly treated as a sex object by middle aged women and the comments made would never be allowed if it was aimed at a female actress
eastwoodsdustman
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No I don’t want her tripping over when she walks from sink to the washing machine.
Westendlad
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Its not offensive Otis.If there's a general consenus that it's in any way offensive I am of course happy to delete it, but I am puzzled as to why anyone would find it offensive.
Just showed it my my daughter and all her friends that are round here at the moment and none of them can see anything wrong with it.
Hence the puzzlement.
Otis
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Very true.
Westendlad
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I asked my misses and she said she didn't know coz she's not allowed in the room when the footy is on..
Westendlad
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Seriously tho she said how pathetic and it doesn't bother her one bit.
Sick Boy
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If there's a general consenus that it's in any way offensive I am of course happy to delete it, but I am puzzled as to why anyone would find it offensive.
Just showed it my my daughter and all her friends that are round here at the moment and none of them can see anything wrong with it.
Hence the puzzlement.
There's nothing particularly wrong with it, IMO.
A lot of Middle Eastern - Saudi and Iranian in particular - are incredibly attractive as well.
Sick Boy
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Sick Boy
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Are the cameras the same cameras that are shown around the world? If so, it's not really a surprise, is it? During the last WC I watched it on Italian TV and every 5 minutes there would be a shot of a model in a mini-skirt slowly moving up from her feet to her face.
A lot of other countries in the world do have a problem with sexism, but the UK is ahead of a lot of other countries.
On a side note, I see @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 has gone on about 'virtue signalling' again haha!
A lot of other countries in the world do have a problem with sexism, but the UK is ahead of a lot of other countries.
On a side note, I see @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 has gone on about 'virtue signalling' again haha!
Westendlad
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Then why ask Otis if he showed it to her muslim friends ?
Otis
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I was lying. She doesn't have any Muslim friends, none of us do. We're out and out racists.
Westendlad
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Right that's it...I'm reporting you and carry on with this behaviour young man and i'll ruddy well block you.
Otis
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I like being blocked. Kind of makes me feel like an outlaw and gives me notoriety.
Westendlad
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You're crazzzzzyyy.........I shall think of you from now on as 'Otis the kid'....Fastest gun in the west..
Westendlad
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Used to love the westerns when growing up. Used to have a holster and rifle and sit on the arm of the sofa pretending it was a horse playing cowboys and indians......Ohhh shit that's me reported
Gazolba
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If FIFA are so concerned about sexism, maybe they should start looking at themselves:
- The Washington Post
- The Washington Post
pipkin73
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So much confusion here. My Mrs was an ex dancer (had her career destroyed by an accident) and also appeared as an extra on Hollyoaks a few times.
As far as she was concerned the more you were noticed the more chance you have of getting a job.
I've seen so many reports in the papers that so many of these women are prostitutes etc (but the high end class) and flaunt there bodies to make as much as they can whilst the world cup is on. These women are the ones ruining it for the normal women (not us men as we never dressed or put them there), as the normal looking woman still wants to go out and look beautiful and get picked up on camera as it will make her tournament and something for her to talk about for the rest of her life. Just like the Guy/Woman/child who catches the ball in baseball.
Nothing wrong with showing beautiful women on screen, during the game they will also show 500 ugly/average men. About time the political lot actually got real and asked the people they stand up for what they actually want.
I could say a lot more but i think i've given a general opinion
As far as she was concerned the more you were noticed the more chance you have of getting a job.
I've seen so many reports in the papers that so many of these women are prostitutes etc (but the high end class) and flaunt there bodies to make as much as they can whilst the world cup is on. These women are the ones ruining it for the normal women (not us men as we never dressed or put them there), as the normal looking woman still wants to go out and look beautiful and get picked up on camera as it will make her tournament and something for her to talk about for the rest of her life. Just like the Guy/Woman/child who catches the ball in baseball.
Nothing wrong with showing beautiful women on screen, during the game they will also show 500 ugly/average men. About time the political lot actually got real and asked the people they stand up for what they actually want.
I could say a lot more but i think i've given a general opinion
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