Ched Evans (2 Viewers)

tisza

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Not that good a player.
Club's had enough negative connections with the likes of Hughes & King.
Would I let my teenage girls go to a club event involving Evans? No.
Not all about legal issues but just decent behaviour, role models etc. Maybe a dated opinion but mine anyway.
 

Grendel

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You don't even need children tbh, and I think it's safe to say that over the years we've been on the same 'side' over this.

However...

There's no getting away from the fact his conviction was overturned. If we're to have faith in those convicted, we have to have faith when convictions are corrected - however unpleasant that may be.

Morally, ethically, there's no dubt he's a dubious character, but the danger there is where do you draw the line? Who has passed through our club who we never got to hear were morally dubious?

I do agree with the general principal that people have to be allowed to re-integrate. The sour taste with King was the total lack of remorse, the desperate effort to play the system, the unseemly haste we scrambled to sign him just because he was a striker who could score goals... on the cheap, and the disgraceful way the club and manager sought to ridicule and divide people who had concerns, along with trying to blacken the name of the victim.

To a degree, Evans follows some of that, with key differences that clubs didn't re-sign him until his conviction was quashed (they prepared to!) and, ultimately, his conviction has been quashed.

It can seem highly dubious, it can seem it's as much because he employed some morally dubious tactics to do it, and of course he could afford a good lawyer but, the black & white is he has no conviction for rape. Therefore, we've got to treat him like anybody else in a work setting... while warning our daughters off him in a social one! Now the work setting might draw concerns as to how he'd fit into our group but, in that respect, you'd hope we'd check that out for any player we signed, high profile troubles or not.

Fortunately(?) his form's been awful since his release, so it's a non issue really. Ultimately we're discussing something that won't happen!

The reality is though the "new evidence" was the unusual decision to allow the accusers sexual history to be revealed to the jury at the trial which never normally is allowed at all. The other aspect of course was the publicity and the systematic degrading of the alleged victim on a website. It is inconceivable that the jury had not viewed this in advance of the trial.

This was a travesty. Ian Huntley was allowed to be tried on the basis that previous crimes were not revealed at all to the jury but this complainant who has been hounded out of the community was offered nothing like that. It makes rape more attractive to men and it makes reporting the crime far less attractive to women.
 

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