Tommy Robinson (12 Viewers)

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

What in this sentence or a previous one? Is it the same as him being moved to a prison full of muslim extremists?

I'm just making the point that the prison system is an extremely dangerous place for him, nothing more.

 

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[skybluetony176]

If you read up on what's happened to him before, he has actually had efforts to transfer him to other wings or prisons at no notice in the past which was a deliberate attempt to put his life in danger. He has a bounty on his head.

One example was when one prison officer (ex-services) tipped him off and told him to refuse to cooperate when the other guards came as they were about to move him to the 'ISIS wing'. He then kicked off when the guards came and landed in solitary confinement. I think his legal team then got escalated and blocked him from being moved.

You do know that when you’re in prison you get very little say in what happens to you, where, how and when. That’s prison. If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime so to speak. Robinson hasn’t been treated any different from any other prisoner in that respect. Really the only way Robinson has been treated as an exception is at the ease he was allowed in isolation when he arrived at Onley. If anything this is favourable treatment. The suggestion that there is an ISIS wing in a Cat C prison is so laughable it shouldn’t even be taken seriously.

 

[Nick]

I'm just making the point that the prison system is an extremely dangerous place for him, nothing more.

It probably is when there are thousands of imaginary extremists queuing him to get at him in the showers.

Not saying Prison isn't dangerous for him, it's dangerous for a lot of people with a name and a reputation.

He was on his own away from the riff / raff so nobody could have touched him anyway? Let's not make out he had to start taking hostages or something extreme to get himself put there.

Im not on about anything to do with the process that put him there, if you also read my views on immigration im hardly a softy who wants to hug the refugees either so Im not saying things as an agenda against him personally. (apart from the 12 year old lesbian stuff, which he did.)

 

[Astute]

I'm not saying what happens in this case happens all the time, (I wouldn't know whether it does or not), but screw ups happen all the time.

Yes they do. But this is a procedural one that shouldn't have reached court so quickly. It would have been known about by the prosecuting solicitor. The judge should have known what he was doing.

But other than procedures not being followed the rest could well be correct. But I can see a reduced sentence to make up for everything that has gone wrong.

 

[Astute]

Can't spot anything in the judgement to say the sentence is limited to that given at Leeds.

The Leeds trial for contempt essentially hasn't taken place as everything from the original trial falls away.

So we're left with his breach of the original suspended sentence which means the 3 months sentence kicked in on 25th May. For the offence at Leeds, for which he has already admitted guilt, he faces up to 2 years.

The last part. They would most probably run concurrently. The first sentence has more than been served. And the judge never mentioned anything else about the first sentence. And here is the last part of the comment I added to one of your posts from yesterday.

First, the alleged contempt was serious and the sentence might be longer than that already served

 

[Grendel]

I'm just making the point that the prison system is an extremely dangerous place for him, nothing more.

Perhaps he should behave himself and avoid the place then.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

You do know that when you’re in prison you get very little say in what happens to you, where, how and when. That’s prison. If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime so to speak. Robinson hasn’t been treated any different from any other prisoner in that respect. Really the only way Robinson has been treated as an exception is at the ease he was allowed in isolation when he arrived at Onley. If anything this is favourable treatment. The suggestion that there is an ISIS wing in a Cat C prison is so laughable it shouldn’t even be taken seriously.

I never said there was one in that particular prison, but somewhere else where he was previously imprisoned.

If you don't think that there is anything different about him being moved around, and refuse to acknowledge their have been attempted organised actions on his life in the past then there is no point in continuing this conversation further.

 

[Nick]

I never said there was one in that particular prison, but somewhere else where he was previously imprisoned.

If you don't think that there is anything different about him being moved around, and refuse to acknowledge their have been attempted organised actions on his life in the past then there is no point in continuing this conversation further.

Again, it's nothing special is it for prisons? They are full of gangsters and other people who have annoyed others who have people wanting to get at them either for money, fame or just hatred.

If you knew prison was a dangerous place for you and you were on a suspended sentence, wouldn't you make sure everything you did was above board and there's no chance you are going back?

 

[chiefdave]

Perhaps he should behave himself and avoid the place then.

You have to assume it was deliberate. Nobody is stupid enough for It to not be deliberate.

He was found guilty once and told by the judge

you should be under no illusions that if you commit any further offence of any kind, and that would include, I would have thought a further contempt of court by similar actions, then that sentence of three months would be activated, and that would be on top of anything else that you were given by any other court.
In short, Mr. Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as "Muslim paedophiles, Muslim rapists" and so on and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside.

and then turns up at another court doing exactly the same thing while being filmed stating that if he was spotted by the police he would be straight in jail for contempt!

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Again, it's nothing special is it for prisons? They are full of gangsters and other people who have annoyed others who have people wanting to get at them either for money, fame or just hatred.

If you knew prison was a dangerous place for you and you were on a suspended sentence, wouldn't you make sure everything you did was above board and there's no chance you are going back?

No you wouldn't, which is why I have little sympathy with him playing with fire in that sense.

Prison is dangerous for a lot of people, including him though. This why it is even more concerning that he was sent there incorrectly so quickly.

 

[skybluetony176]

I never said there was one in that particular prison, but somewhere else where he was previously imprisoned.

If you don't think that there is anything different about him being moved around, and refuse to acknowledge their have been attempted organised actions on his life in the past then there is no point in continuing this conversation further.

He’s only ever served in Cat C’s so where ever this supposed ISIS wing in a prison is he’s never been anywhere near one so it’s still a laughable suggestion.

There isn’t anything different about him being moved around. That’s prison, that’s what happens. As I’ve already pointed out the only out of the norm treatment he’s received is favourable.

 

[Nick]

No you wouldn't, which is why I have little sympathy with him playing with fire in that sense.

Prison is dangerous for a lot of people, including him though. This why it is even more concerning that he was sent there incorrectly so quickly.

He wasn't just chucked into a room full of angry muslims though was he?

It's no different to when a known gang member rocks up to a prison with people from other gangs.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

He’s only ever served in Cat C’s so where ever this supposed ISIS wing in a prison is he’s never been anywhere near one so it’s still a laughable suggestion.

There isn’t anything different about him being moved around. That’s prison, that’s what happens. As I’ve already pointed out the only out of the norm treatment he’s received is favourable.

Well you've already made your mind up based off your own agenda so I don't really see why you are still commenting on this thread.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

He wasn't just chucked into a room full of angry muslims though was he?

It's no different to when a known gang member rocks up to a prison with people from other gangs.

I didn't say that he was, that wasn't the point that I was making.

I also didn't say it wasn't something that happened with other people. The judge did know that he would be in danger though, and rushed him straight through to prison. He knew full well what he was doing in my opinion. Even more so now that he has been released in this fashion.

 

[skybluetony176]

Well you've already made your mind up based off your own agenda so I don't really see why you are still commenting on this thread.

So which maximum security prison has Robinson been in exactly? That’s the only way he could been moved to an ISIS wing. Nothing to do with making my mind up. It’s just the truth. I’m entitled to post on this thread as much as anyone. It’s called freedom of speech.

 

[Nick]

I didn't say that he was, that wasn't the point that I was making.

I also didn't say it wasn't something that happened with other people. The judge did know that he would be in danger though, and rushed him straight through to prison. He knew full well what he was doing in my opinion. Even more so now that he has been released in this fashion.

That's my point, are you trying to make out the judge was expecting him to be thrown to the muslims when he reached jail?

Pretty sure if a Government wants somebody killed or hurt there are better ways to do it.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

So which maximum security prison has Robinson been in exactly? That’s the only way he could been moved to an ISIS wing. Nothing to do with making my mind up. It’s just the truth. I’m entitled to post on this thread as much as anyone. It’s called freedom of speech.

You are another one that has literally done no research whatsoever but continue to spout nonsense. It is extremely embarrassing.

I suggest you look up Woodhill Prison to start you off... Actually don't bother. This debate already concluded in your mind so what's the point?

 

[skybluetony176]

You are another one that has literally done no research whatsoever but continue to spout nonsense. It is extremely embarrassing.

I suggest you look up Woodhill Prison to start you off... Actually don't bother. This debate already concluded in your mind so what's the point?

Woodhill is not Onley you idiot

 

[Tommo72]

The BBC will be rubbing their hands with glee now they have someone to alternate with UKIP on their politics programmes.

Robinson will do far more to obstruct justice than deliver it - the self righteous, attention seeking prick that he is.

Attention seeking? Care to elaborate?

 

[clint van damme]

Tell me, how someone who is a legal professional who exerts the following behaviours is not part of the problem:

- Let's a criminals perceived reputation influence them.
- Writes hit pieces anonymously online.
- Fails to be neutral.
- Brands working class people as scum.

Yes, the legal system is massively fucked. The guy is seriously throwing stones from a glass house though.

there are people shedding light on all sorts of our institutions through the anonymity of social media, be it the police, the NHS. I'd rather have them than not have them but it doesn't mean they're always right.
You also need to remember that Robinson is a convicted criminal, I wonder if it was any other convicted criminal would those trying to defend him be so quick to do so?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

That's my point, are you trying to make out the judge was expecting him to be thrown to the muslims when he reached jail?

Pretty sure if a Government wants somebody killed or hurt there are better ways to do it.

It wouldn't at all surprise me if that was the case, other people in positions of power have done similar actions to get him in danger so it isn't impossible.

You would be surprised in that sense though, the prison system is in a complete mess. Throwing someone in there to be killed would be a pretty effective way to get it done given the amount of assaults, murders, and suicides that happen in our prisons with little outcry or proper action afterwards. Lack of staff and organisation would get the blame on top of a fellow inmate that had nothing to lose and it would be largely swept under the carpet from their point of view.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Woodhill is not Onley you idiot

You said he's only been in category C prisons... That was your argument.

You are literally all over the place. What an embarrassing day for you Tony.

 

[clint van damme]

It wouldn't at all surprise me if that was the case, other people in positions of power have done similar actions to get him in danger so it isn't impossible.

You would be surprised in that sense though, the prison system is in a complete mess. Throwing someone in there to be killed would be a pretty effective way to get it done given the amount of assaults, murders, and suicides that happen in our prisons with little outcry or proper action afterwards. Lack of staff and organisation would get the blame on top of a fellow inmate that had nothing to lose and it would be largely swept under the carpet from their point of view.

there is no conspiracy to kill Robinson you absolute moon unit, get a fucking grip!

 

[Nick]

It wouldn't at all surprise me if that was the case, other people in positions of power have done similar actions to get him in danger so it isn't impossible.

You would be surprised in that sense though, the prison system is in a complete mess. Throwing someone in there to be killed would be a pretty effective way to get it done given the amount of assaults, murders, and suicides that happen in our prisons with little outcry or proper action afterwards. Lack of staff and organisation would get the blame on top of a fellow inmate that had nothing to lose and it would be largely swept under the carpet from their point of view.

So why was he looked after and kept separate when he got there? Why did he get to go out of his cell at different times to normal to keep him safe? Sounds like a shit assassination attempt.

Meanwhile the media were saying the prison he was going to was full of muslims and making up percentages that weren't true.

If the government wanted him dead do you think they would throw him to the muslims to let them do it with it being so obvious? He could just have a car accident or something less dramatic and that wouldn't really be so blatant.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

there are people shedding light on all sorts of our institutions through the anonymity of social media, be it the police, the NHS. I'd rather have them than not have them but it doesn't mean they're always right.
You also need to remember that Robinson is a convicted criminal, I wonder if it was any other convicted criminal would those trying to defend him be so quick to do so?

I think more to the point, would those who hate him so much be so hard on anyone else in his position? The answer is certainly not, there are gaping double standards. The Secret Barrister has been my example because someone tried to use him to get me to shut up in an argument.

The guy was wrong, well wrong though. Even myself who is not a trained legal professional knew that.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

So why was he looked after and kept separate when he got there? Why did he get to go out of his cell at different times to normal to keep him safe? Sounds like a shit assassination attempt.

Meanwhile the media were saying the prison he was going to was full of muslims and making up percentages that weren't true.

If the government wanted him dead do you think they would throw him to the muslims to let them do it with it being so obvious? He could just have a car accident or something less dramatic and that wouldn't really be so blatant.

They could do a 'car accident', or they could take a criminal who has previous and put him in prison and let him get beaten to death. I highly doubt the government in its entirety want him killed, but there are some people within the ranks and in high positions who do.

I've never said anything about percentages or that particular prison, I just said his life has been put into unnecessary danger in the past, which is true.

I'm not really sure what you are arguing for as you don't seem to have an issue with what might or might not have happened before. I have actually barely commented on this particular prison or what happened to him in there this time. I have just made the point that it has been dangerous for him in the past.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

there is no conspiracy to kill Robinson you absolute moon unit, get a fucking grip!

So you think there is no one in the government, CPS, police that wouldn't like him off the streets for good? It's obvious that there are some hands at play and it's naive to try and argue at some stages in his life there have been set ups to try and fuck him up.

I've never said Theresa May has ordered his execution FFS.

 

[clint van damme]

I think more to the point, would those who hate him so much be so hard on anyone else in his position? The answer is certainly not, there are gaping double standards. The Secret Barrister has been my example because someone tried to use him to get me to shut up in an argument.

The guy was wrong, well wrong though. Even myself who is not a trained legal professional knew that.

that's why he admitted it. Even though for some reason you've decided that "you were wrong weren't you - yes" is now not an admission of being wrong in English!!

 

[Nick]

They could do a 'car accident', or they could take a criminal who has previous and put him in prison and let him get beaten to death. I highly doubt the government in its entirety want him killed, but there are some people within the ranks and in high positions who do.

I've never said anything about percentages or that particular prison, I just said his life has been put into unnecessary danger in the past, which is true.

I'm not really sure what you are arguing for as you don't seem to have an issue with what might or might not have happened before. I have actually barely commented on this particular prison or what happened to him in there this time. I have just made the point that it has been dangerous for him in the past.

His life is put into danger because he keeps being sent to prison. It's not like it's just the one where it was rushed through was his first time though and it's all a big mistake. If they wanted him killed they wouldn't have kept him separate, they would have put him in with somebody who they knew would do a job on him.

90%+ of the country would probably want people like Ian Huntley to die as well but he's still breathing.

Dangerous for him in the past isn't the same as this time (which is what I was on about with his torture etc).

My life would be more dangerous than it is if I kept getting sent down.

 

[clint van damme]

They could do a 'car accident', or they could take a criminal who has previous and put him in prison and let him get beaten to death. I highly doubt the government in its entirety want him killed, but there are some people within the ranks and in high positions who do.

I've never said anything about percentages or that particular prison, I just said his life has been put into unnecessary danger in the past, which is true.

I'm not really sure what you are arguing for as you don't seem to have an issue with what might or might not have happened before. I have actually barely commented on this particular prison or what happened to him in there this time. I have just made the point that it has been dangerous for him in the past.

You are batshit mental!!

 

[clint van damme]

So you think there is no one in the government, CPS, police that wouldn't like him off the streets for good? It's obvious that there are some hands at play and it's naive to try and argue at some stages in his life there have been set ups to try and fuck him up.

I've never said Theresa May has ordered his execution FFS.

hahaha!! Stop now!!

 

[Nick]

So you think there is no one in the government, CPS, police that wouldn't like him off the streets for good? It's obvious that there are some hands at play and it's naive to try and argue at some stages in his life there have been set ups to try and fuck him up.

I've never said Theresa May has ordered his execution FFS.

In this instance the execution of sending him to prison is like me saying I want a dog put down and sending it to a boarding kennel where it gets looked after. Did they not send the memo?

Why would they send him to prison for it to be done when it would just prove everything he says as correct and make him a martyr?

 

[skybluetony176]

You said he's only been in category C prisons... That was your argument.

You are literally all over the place. What an embarrassing day for you Tony.

Two seconds on google and you find out that he was on the remand wing awaiting sentencing. He was never on a Cat A wing. Mortgage fraud that time wasn’t it? Clearly he likes the taste of prison food.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

You are batshit mental!!

hahaha!! Stop now!!

The release of TR has really triggered some people. Nice to see you tried to at least cover that up for half a day.

 

[Nick]

The release of TR has really triggered some people. Nice to see you tried to at least cover that up for half a day.

I don't think it's the release of him, it's more your and others posts that are getting replied to.