Nick
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What options are there?
The town where police don't come out (8 Viewers)
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What options are there?
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon
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I might found my own, the Fascist Liberal party. Moderate policies, immoderate enforcement.
Nick
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Surely it just needs a planned raid? Loads of police block them all off and clean it up.
Either that or they have to cleanup the mess when people take it into their own hands.
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon
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Yeah, if the police could be nudged into doing it then I'd imagine that would be pretty effective. We're certainly making them aware of things as they're spotted so hopefully there's a reaction soon.
tommydazzle
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In the immortal words of Gene Hunt, 'come out, you're surrounded by armed bastards'. We need that kind of (Life on Mars) policing these days I reckon.
Otis
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Marty
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Far too soft in this country, the police should have real training in things like BJJ, so they can actually dominate situations, maybe they should recruit from the military, so when they find themselves in those situations, they're more then capable of handling themselves.
I've had 2 break ins in the past 15 months or so, tbf, the police were very good and they sent someone straight away, if I ever caught someone in my house they would get an absolute beating. I would definitely help an officer in trouble.
I've had 2 break ins in the past 15 months or so, tbf, the police were very good and they sent someone straight away, if I ever caught someone in my house they would get an absolute beating. I would definitely help an officer in trouble.
Nick
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I don't get why there are so many unfit police as well. There are some knocking about who look as if they would be out of breath running a bath, what are they going to do?
It's no excuse to assault them (even more so women) though!
Marty
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5.4 is the score needed to pass the police bleep test, it's the equivalent of a light jog for about 1 minute. Absolutely shameful for anyone in that position to not at least get the national average (around 10). That's still less then 2.5km, most of which is nothing more then a jog (I can do about 16.5, before I can't run fast enough to keep up with the test).
Nick
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If you were going to be up against criminals you would want to be fit and strong surely?
Otis
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I advocate the police being allowed to use more force where appropriate, so Grendel is talking nonsense.
I wouldn't dare answer back to a police officer when I was younger.
Just watching 999, What's your Emergency and the way people talk to and verbally and physically abuse the police is outrageous.
Nick
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That's because they know they can get away with it. I doubt they would if they got a truncheon around their legs for doing it.
Otis
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And i think they should.
There's a guy there tonight, set fire to his flat, threatened people with a sword, then driven off dangerously at high speed, then crashed and then threatened the police officers with a huge sword.
They take him to the station and are calling him 'sir' and offering him a full English for breakfast.
Gazolba
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What they have in the USA are gated communities.
They are fully enclosed and entrance/exit is only by a front gate, which is guarded by a security person.
All visitors have to be announced and approved before they can enter.
Residents can go in and out since their number plates are registered.
Is there any trend toward this in the UK?
They are fully enclosed and entrance/exit is only by a front gate, which is guarded by a security person.
All visitors have to be announced and approved before they can enter.
Residents can go in and out since their number plates are registered.
Is there any trend toward this in the UK?
Gazolba
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Did they take the sword off him or did he use it to cut up his sausages?
dutchman
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There has been for a long time. St George's Hill in Surrey is the oldest and most famous example:
St George's Hill - Wikipedia
It's where all the pop singers and sports stars live.
My dad lives on another in Holland which only recently became gated.
Otis
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Well it was a pork sword, so a bit too blunt unfortunately.
Houchens Head
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Just going on from filming incidents with the police, I can never understand the mentality of filming yourself or surroundings when you're on a plane that's in serious trouble. "Oooh! The Captains just announced we're in for a crash landing and could all die! Gotta get my phone camera switched on and film everyone!" Are these people thick as pig shit?
Astute
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Hardly anything happens where I live. I don't know anyone who has suffered a burglary. I don't know anyone who has suffered car crime. It is safe to walk the streets at any time. The problem is that it doesn't prepare my kids for life away from here.
Went to Liverpool a few weeks ago. My 17 year old daughter couldn't believe what she saw. She hated the place. She had been planning to go to university in Leeds in a couple of years. But when I told her that it will have similar problems as it is also a city she is now seriously reconsidering her future. And we didn't even see any trouble in Liverpool.
Went to Liverpool a few weeks ago. My 17 year old daughter couldn't believe what she saw. She hated the place. She had been planning to go to university in Leeds in a couple of years. But when I told her that it will have similar problems as it is also a city she is now seriously reconsidering her future. And we didn't even see any trouble in Liverpool.
I do think that the Cities are on a different level. The only fucking crooks and dealers we have around here are either coming from B'ham, Leicester or Cov or surprise surprise from Traveller camps. I reiterate though stuff I've wrote before, it's drugs ! Drug usage and drug addiction requires cash, when the cash runs out the users look every which way at getting money to pay for their fix and that's when private property is attacked and mugging begins etc...
Very common in Spain too, the security is not always that tight at the boundaries but the residents are quick then to notice non residents or anyone acting suspiciously and the police act fast there and are very visible.
Nick
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They have them in the UK, if you are rich enough to live in one
But that's the difference Nick in Spain you can get a place on a gated urbanisation for £100k, here you have to be a bloody millionaire.
Nick
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Need to all just move to Spain
Yep the ones here you have to be rich, Im sure I saw something the other day about a gated community being built somewhere local but cant remember where. Would be great for all the kids to play out together and not worry about weirdos or people driving like twats.
shmmeee
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To be fair mate, most of the blokes are about 8 stone wet through as well.
shmmeee
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Labour. Always been more effective in stopping the root causes and funding police/NHS appropriately.
Tories haven’t been pro-Police for decades.
Whether you want Corbyn or not is a different question.
clint van damme
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I'd rather give up than live in a gated facility.
Can't think of anything worse.
Can't think of anything worse.
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They're the embodiment of a society that gives up on itself as a society.
clint van damme
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I might be wide of the mark here, but I'd hazard a guess that there's a larger percentage of people with something to hide in gated communities than is normal.
Having said that I worked with a South African who lived in one and it was pretty much a necessity over there but the UK isn't South Africa.
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It's such a physical divide between haves and have-nots. Solves a problem in the immedicacy, causes a bigger one long term.
Otis
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I always thought it sounded like a good idea in principal, but then that's me just saying that with zero thought at all and without even weighing up the implications, negative and positive.
I'm sure there's a block of flats opposite IKEA where it's electronic gates to get in.
Walked past there with my daughter a few weeks back. That doesn't look posh.
I'm sure there's a block of flats opposite IKEA where it's electronic gates to get in.
Walked past there with my daughter a few weeks back. That doesn't look posh.
Nick
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Isn't it just a gate though with a few houses behind? They still leave there and integrate surely?
Otis
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The one by IKEA is an electronic gate that leads to a courtyard and then the flats.
You only don't intergrate if you choose not to I would have thought, though I do understand that some must live in these places in order to not mix with the riffraff.
clint van damme
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I'm not against people taking security measures and if you've got a certain amount of wealth it's probably sensible but these gated communities don't appeal to me.
There'd definitely be an annoying neighbour who thinks that living behind that gate made you best mates.
There'd definitely be an annoying neighbour who thinks that living behind that gate made you best mates.