Trust response to Tim Fisher (2 Viewers)

[Nick]

Can answer the council one they said it was nothing to do with them

They said that and that's that. Nothing. That's what they mean when they go on about public opinion that they can just say what they want.

 

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[chiefdave]

Can always raise with your local councillor

Would urge everyone to do this. You will most likely get fobbed off as I was with them hiding behind a claim of confidentiality but more people doing it at least makes them aware it is an issue that registers with the electorate.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Won't hold your breath. From what I can make out the trust secretary is an ex council CEO and there's another chap who shows as attending board meetings (despite not being listed on their website as a board member) who works for the council.

If working for a council makes you biased and unfit for a Trust role, then there'd be 17% of this board who wouldn't be suitable.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I couldn't care less at present if Rose West was our chairman

Joining Hoffman's consortium tomorrow.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Would urge everyone to do this. You will most likely get fobbed off as I was with them hiding behind a claim of confidentiality but more people doing it at least makes them aware it is an issue that registers with the electorate.

Just done it. Decided not to ask them to take sides, but just urge them to ask why the same deal as last season appears not to be an option, when circumstances are the same.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Just done it. Decided not to ask them to take sides, but just urge them to ask why the same deal as last season appears not to be an option, when circumstances are the same.

Excellent nw I’m gonna do the same right now. It’s good in my area as I have 2 labour and 1 conservative and the Conservative guy always replies and is really helpful at raising stuff

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Excellent nw I’m gonna do the same right now

I also pointed out with city of culture on the horizon, losing a club which has such a heritage and tradition, and ties to the city would be catastrophic.

Pointless asking them to take sides, but as mentioned... if nobody raises there's an issue, how can the councillors respond anyway?

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Just done it. Decided not to ask them to take sides, but just urge them to ask why the same deal as last season appears not to be an option, when circumstances are the same.

The answer will be because it was actually in last year's deal that if they were still in court they wouldn't renew.

I will give it another bash on those lines though Northern.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Nw is right we are idiots if we don’t try.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I will give it another bash on those lines though Northern.

Does no harm, does it. We can either be silent, and the council quite rightly ignores us as they think nobody cares... or we can at least show we do care, and then if the council remain intransigent, they're more culkpable.

Frankly, if public opinion were sufficiently behind a deal at all costs, a deal would be done... wouldn't it. I think it is... but none of us either have the time, or the knowledge of how to harness it so in those circumstances, the best we can do is fire off some cheesed off from Cheylsemore or worried from Wyken emails.

 

[Covstu]

So we get rid of Fisher? Then what happens ? Nowt. Fishy isn’t the key to our negotiations to extend the lease and never was. He is a tool of SISU but a patsy, a pawn, a sacrificial lamb when the shit hits the fan for SISU. Would the Trust feel vindicated if he left? Then who do they get in? Someone exactly the same!

Just seems to be like the council issues, a personal battle rather than a focused discussion on getting th best for the club.

 

[shmmeee]

Position has to be as neutral as possible and put CCFC first where possible.

- Why can’t we have the same deal we’ve got for another period?
- Will the Council encourage this with all parties?
- What’s Plan B?
- Will the Council support a search within its boundaries if Plan B is a stadium? Will they facilitate the Butts if that’s it?

Doesn’t pass judgement, doesn’t take sides. Just demands a resolution to CCFC on the same terms or all parties to work together to ensure we are playing locally if not.

 

[Nick]

Position has to be as neutral as possible and put CCFC first where possible.

- Why can’t we have the same deal we’ve got for another period?
- Will the Council encourage this with all parties?
- What’s Plan B?
- Will the Council support a search within its boundaries if Plan B is a stadium? Will they facilitate the Butts if that’s it?

Doesn’t pass judgement, doesn’t take sides. Just demands a resolution to CCFC on the same terms or all parties to work together to ensure we are playing locally if not.

Both that and what NW are decent, to the point and should be decent starting points.

Change it to a full statement about "What's Plan B Timmy Fishface???" and you are probably bang on with what will be put out.

 

[I was eleven in 87]

Stop spouting bollocks - fisher has no influence over the club

So who does then if the Chairman hasn’t?

 

[Liquid Gold]

It’s a disgrace that us lot on a forum are doing more than the trust.

I’m not a Coventry resident so can’t contact councillors. Been emailing London Wasps’ sponsors. Any recommendations on other stuff to do?

 

[RegTheDonk]

Stop spouting bollocks - fisher has no influence over the club

So if it's not Fisher, who exactly has influence?

I also pointed out with city of culture on the horizon, losing a club which has such a heritage and tradition, and ties to the city would be catastrophic.....

Watching the Blaze game last night, on the ice it proudly advertises Cov is the European City of Sport 2019, is this tied into the Culture tag, or a seperate award? Wonder what the cities who missed out will be thinking.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Both that and what NW are decent, to the point and should be decent starting points.

Change it to a full statement about "What's Plan B Timmy Fishface???" and you are probably bang on with what will be put out.

Thing is, Plan B is a very real concern. If they don't have a Plan B (however unpalatable said plan may be - no pun intended) then it'd be a staggering level of incompetence, even for our lot.

To a degree, there's three strands.

Club - What exactly are your plans?

Wasps - What exactly stops you agreeing the same deal this time around?

Council - What will you do to try and facilitate a resolution, and can you accept club remaining in city and prospering is the priority?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So if it's not Fisher, who exactly has influence?

Watching the Blaze game last night, on the ice it proudly advertises Cov is the European City of Sport 2019, is this tied into the Culture tag, or a seperate award? Wonder what the cities who missed out will be thinking.

Yeah I forgot City of Sport. tbf that might have been better

 

[Liquid Gold]

Thing is, Plan B is a very real concern. If they don't have a Plan B (however unpalatable said plan may be - no pun intended) then it'd be a staggering level of incompetence, even for our lot.

To a degree, there's three strands.

Club - What exactly are your plans?

Wasps - What exactly stops you agreeing the same deal this time around?

Council - What will you do to try and facilitate a resolution, and can you accept club remaining in city is the priority?

I think the plan B will probably be moving out the city again. I’m sure they’ve spoken to the EFL and would get permission if it came to it.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I think the plan B will probably be moving out the city again. I’m sure they’ve spoken to the EFL and would get permission if it came to it.

I should think you're probably right, but we don't know, do we. Now you could argue they learned from last time not to say that too early(!) but Plan B could equally be wind club up and sue. I don't expect the answers to be nice, but it's as well to know!

 

[usskyblue]

I think the plan B will probably be moving out the city again. I’m sure they’ve spoken to the EFL and would get permission if it came to it.

This is plan B m8

 

[Liquid Gold]

This is plan B m8

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[Otis]

Position has to be as neutral as possible and put CCFC first where possible.

- Why can’t we have the same deal we’ve got for another period?
- Will the Council encourage this with all parties?
- What’s Plan B?
- Will the Council support a search within its boundaries if Plan B is a stadium? Will they facilitate the Butts if that’s it?

Doesn’t pass judgement, doesn’t take sides. Just demands a resolution to CCFC on the same terms or all parties to work together to ensure we are playing locally if not.

Yep, if we are to be kicked out we need the council to ensure we get to play at the Butts (Cov rugby permitting and onboard).

Can't see there are any other options. Ricoh, or last resort, the Butts.

 

[Otis]

This is plan B m8

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Eh?

Surely if we cease to exist there will be no more matches.

 

[usskyblue]

Eh?

Surely if we cease to exist there will be no more matches.

 

[Otis]

Well if that was your intention m8, you needed to a pic of a matchbox without the matches in, cos one with the matches in kind of doesn't work, cos there's still matches .

 

[Magwitch]

I think the plan B will probably be moving out the city again. I’m sure they’ve spoken to the EFL and would get permission if it came to it.

Where ?

 

[Ashdown]

Who cares? He’s a periphery figure with zero influence. The fact the trust even mentions the Jimmy Hill Way as an ally shows how deranged they are. The fact they allow their secretary to remain in office shows how unsuitable they are.

I care, he amongst many others have been at the heart of our demise.....why should that lying oxygen thief be taking any sort of place at the helm of our club. Fuck him off , he's surplus !

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

Sky Blue Trust - A Response to Tim Fisher

An the EFL turns a blind eye and allows this ?

 

[Grendel]

An the EFL turns a blind eye and allows this ?

Allow what? It’s just more tripe from the trust

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I care, he amongst many others have been at the heart of our demise.....why should that lying oxygen thief be taking any sort of place at the helm of our club. Fuck him off , he's surplus !

I get and appreciate the fact that he's not been our finest Chairman (although having led us to our first top six finish in many years and two Wembley appearances... perhaps he is...?) I also have no issue with the general concept that he should sod off (nor, even, as a bargaining tool. I thought him being off would have been the pawn to see us win the Ricoh!) It's also fair to say that certain club statements gloss over certain things.

Ultimately, though it pains me to say it, Grendel is right however. We all know that the power behind the throne is the issue. We've changed figurehead enough to know all that happens is we have a spell where the new guy in charge is a breath of fresh air, speaks sense... and then ends up doing something barking mad.

All that calling for Tim Fisher to go does is digress. If anything, it would give our owners a little more slack with fans, and they don't really deserve that, do they?

The main issues are:

• Where are we going to play?
• How are we going to achieve that?

Calling for Fisher to go (unless sponsored by Wasps and / or Council, and I'm pretty sure it isn't!) probably isn't going to move us forward. It may be a perfectly fine statement in itself, but practically it needs to be followed up with other statements, or it ends up the sound of empty fury.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Don't let the facts get in the way of some ones personal agenda !

As LAST responded to me I take offence at the sly, moronic dig. Rather than ranting foolishly, I'd rather try and see a way forward. My personal agenda is to see the football club succeed (or at least exist!) without cutting off my nose to spite my face.

As LAST is being constructive, what stops you from being? Why reduce it to petty pathetic conspiracies?

 

[chiefdave]

If it's in the terms and conditions and it's agreed by all then the agreement should be honoured by all.

I would be amazed if there is a contract signed by the club last season that explicitly states we will not be staying at the Ricoh past this season without legal action being dropped. It sounds more like a Wasps soundbite.

 

[Sick Boy]

The Trust is an embarrassment and is about as fit for purpose as Fisher is for CCFC.

There is so such hypocrisy and double standards in their statement surrounding London Wasps and SISU.

The sooner SISU, the franchise and the trust are out of the picture the better.

 

[Sick Boy]

Where ?

Is there a league club in Cornwall? It could make excellent business sense in the long- run.