...increase in migrants across the Channel. (9 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

I tell you what, they don’t half know how to make £5 a day stretch. I have it on good authority that they all have the latest technology big screen TV and are all driving around in 18 plate cars. Someone should make one them chancellor with that track record.

 

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[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Didn't somebody say most of the people coming over on dinghies weren't from Syria?

They probably aren't. Which is why the rhetoric that they always are is frustrating.

If it was just Syrians escaping ISIS then I think people would be more forward about offering their support. Problem is, when Merkel says 'everyone's welcome', any chancer is going to go for it.

 

[Nick]

I tell you what, they don’t half know how to make £5 a day stretch. I have it on good authority that they all have the latest technology big screen TV and are all driving around in 18 plate cars. Someone should make one them chancellor with that track record.

Go to any car wash and most of them will have better clobber than me. They do tend to wear it in the wrong order like slip on shoes with white socks and tracksuit bottoms but they aren't messing about when it comes to fashion

 

[Marty]

Just wanted to show how easy it is to live on £5 a day.

Using Sainsburys pricing too, so could be got cheaper elsewhere.

Breakfast = 38p
Porridge - 1kg - £1.20 - 1 months for 1 person. = 4p a day.
Frozen fruit - £2 - 6 servings = 34p

Lunch: = 94p
Granny Smith apples - 6 for £1.50 = 25p
Bananas - 5 for 95p = 19p
Pre bagged salad - 170g for £1 (2days) = 50p

Tea: = £1.22
Chicken Breast - £1
Frozen Veg - 1kg - £1 / 14 days = 8p
Rice - £1.70 / 13 days = 14p

£2.54 for a full days healthy eating, where you will be full all day. Plenty of money for things like eggs, milk, flour, chocolate, etc. Not bad considering you now have a roof over your head, no bills and you've never paid into the system.

 

[clint van damme]

I think that's part of the issue though. How many are actually from Syria getting away from ISIS?

For the record I would also probably rather be there than have to watch city play anyway.

Of those that fled Syria, Not specifically to the UK but just fled in general, a lot.
Would you prefer it if they'd joined them because that's the choice a lot of people were faced with

 

[Westendlad]

Of those that fled Syria, Not specifically to the UK but just fled in general, a lot.
Would you prefer it if they'd joined them because that's the choice a lot of people were faced with

Personally i wish they put more of a fight when it was obviously Syria was in their plans. Read yesterday that isis now only control only one tiny area now so they can go home now.

 

[Ian1779]

I tell you what, they don’t half know how to make £5 a day stretch. I have it on good authority that they all have the latest technology big screen TV and are all driving around in 18 plate cars. Someone should make one them chancellor with that track record.

I’d love to see an MP survive on £5 a day expenses.

 

[Nick]

I’d love to see an MP survive on £5 a day expenses.

Wouldn't even get them a line of coke would it?

 

[clint van damme]

Personally i wish they put more of a fight when it was obviously Syria was in their plans. Read yesterday that isis now only control only one tiny area now so they can go home now.

I think a lot of them will when they start rebuilding the country which will take a while because it's rubble

After what a fuck up this has been, same with Libya, I hope we've got the sense to stay out of the next one wherever it may be.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Might be here Clint.

 

[Ian1779]

For every illegal migrant there will probably be a refugee or asylum seeker. In fact if we put together the money given to both of them for 5 years it will still be less than a clever accountant can write off in an afternoon for a tax evading millionaire or corporation.

The fact that there were what 50 or so migrants crossing the channel over the Xmas break and it’s declared a ‘crisis’ - where’s the crisis in Amazon only paying 4.5m corporation tax last year?

Still we’re more interested in the boat people.

 

[Westendlad]

I’d love to see an MP survive on £5 a day expenses.

95k + expenses them horrible cretins get.....Unbelievable

 

[Westendlad]

I think a lot of them will when they start rebuilding the country which will take a while because it's rubble

After what a fuck up this has been, same with Libya, I hope we've got the sense to stay out of the next one wherever it may be.

More chance of a threesome with Kylie & Shakira than more 5% wanting to return home.....

 

[skybluetony176]

Amazon only paying 4.5m corporation tax last year

That’s not fair. The owner of Amazon has a divorce bill to pay and it’s not like he’s the richest man in the world.

Oh wait...

 

[clint van damme]

That’s not fair. The owner of Amazon has a divorce bill to pay and it’s not like he’s the richest man in the world.

Oh wait...

His wife's left him - with a neighbour!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

More chance of a threesome with Kylie & Shakira than more 5% wanting to return home.....

Syria a really interesting case in that it was the jewel and many travelling were just like you and I 10-15 years ago. It can turn quickly and we are not better than them just cause we were born in this country

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

26 Before-and-After Pics Reveal What War Has Done to Syria

Wonder how we’d cope

 

[Nick]

I'd happily swap dodgy MPs and benefit scroungers to go abroad to bring hard working, honest people in. Imagine the country then!

 

[Marty]

26 Before-and-After Pics Reveal What War Has Done to Syria

Wonder how we’d cope

This continent has all ready gone through that level of destruction. Cities were wiped from the map during WW2.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

This continent has all ready gone through that level of destruction. Cities were wiped from the map during WW2.

Syria wasn’t, a huge middle class with an educated population

 

[LastGarrison]

One of our partners at work is based in Beirut and on his Social Media the other day he announced that they were opening a new office in Damascus.

I have to say that this surprised me as I was, naively, under the impression that it was a war zone. He then put up pictures and videos and it literally could have been any thriving big city in the world.

I am in no way playing down what has, and is still happening, in Syria but more of my genuine surprise at how resilient the people are and how life really does ‘just go on’.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

One of our partners at work is based in Beirut and on his Social Media the other day he announced that they were opening a new office in Damascus.

I have to say that this surprised me as I was, naively, under the impression that it was a war zone. He then put up pictures and videos and it literally could have been any thriving big city in the world.

I am in no way playing down what has, and is still happening, in Syria but more of my genuine surprise at how resilient the people are and how life really does ‘just go on’.

Yep that’s right - the human spirit. No surprise to me knowing the Syrians I’ve cone across in Coventry

 

[Deleted member 5849]

One of our partners at work is based in Beirut and on his Social Media the other day he announced that they were opening a new office in Damascus.

I have to say that this surprised me as I was, naively, under the impression that it was a war zone. He then put up pictures and videos and it literally could have been any thriving big city in the world.

I am in no way playing down what has, and is still happening, in Syria but more of my genuine surprise at how resilient the people are and how life really does ‘just go on’.

It does. I used to know someone from Lebanon, was of the middle class... more educated than most. Came here to work and paid more taxes than most of this board I reckon.

She said the nicest thing about thus country was being able to go to sleep without the background sound of gunfire.

And that was somebody not really affected - was just their everyday. Wasn't even somebody in the war zone as was, they had it easy.

 

[fernandopartridge]

One of our partners at work is based in Beirut and on his Social Media the other day he announced that they were opening a new office in Damascus.

I have to say that this surprised me as I was, naively, under the impression that it was a war zone. He then put up pictures and videos and it literally could have been any thriving big city in the world.

I am in no way playing down what has, and is still happening, in Syria but more of my genuine surprise at how resilient the people are and how life really does ‘just go on’.

You've had a damascene conversion!

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Of those that fled Syria, Not specifically to the UK but just fled in general, a lot.
Would you prefer it if they'd joined them because that's the choice a lot of people were faced with

Of course, you're right.

Let's just open the borders.

 

[clint van damme]

Of course, you're right.

Let's just open the borders.

no, let's stop getting involved in wars in sovereign states.
And it's not about opening borders, but look at the before and after pictures Pete posted, when you're faced with a choice of staying in that situation, fleeing to another country or fleeing towards the Islamists what would you do?
Remember, despite what people on here say, the majority of Syrians have fled over the border to Turkey and no further.
You did call refer to Syria as a third world country before so I'm not sure you have a rudimentary grasp of the situation to be honest.

 

[Astute]

no, let's stop getting involved in wars in sovereign states.
And it's not about opening borders, but look at the before and after pictures Pete posted, when you're faced with a choice of staying in that situation, fleeing to another country or fleeing towards the Islamists what would you do?
Remember, despite what people on here say, the majority of Syrians have fled over the border to Turkey and no further.
You did call refer to Syria as a third world country before so I'm not sure you have a rudimentary grasp of the situation to be honest.

I fully agree with us not getting involved where we are not welcome.

But this thread was about those who are leaving a safe country to cross the channel. Why don't they want to stay in the rest of the EU and not risk their lives getting to the UK?

 

[clint van damme]

I fully agree with us not getting involved where we are not welcome.

But this thread was about those who are leaving a safe country to cross the channel. Why don't they want to stay in the rest of the EU and not risk their lives getting to the UK?

I can't answer that but it is a relatively small amount not the human tide some here make out, (referring purely to Syria here).
And as we've contributed to the problem I personally think we shouldn't moan about taking in those fleeing the mess.

If the Syrians had contributed to the flattening of Coventry I'd be making a run for it with my family and I'd expect those fuckers and their allies to look after us.

 

[Astute]

I can't answer that but it is a relatively small amount not the human tide some here make out, (referring purely to Syria here).
And as we've contributed to the problem I personally think we shouldn't moan about taking in those fleeing the mess.

If the Syrians had contributed to the flattening of Coventry I'd be making a run for it with my family and I'd expect those fuckers and their allies to look after us.

Our allies are those in the EU. They seem to be running away from them to get here. I would love to know what is so bad about the EU countries they are risking their lives to get away from. Because they are supposed to have the same human rights charter as us.

 

[IrishSkyBlue]

Divert them to Ireland......Lovely Irish folk would welcome them with open arms.

eh no we dont we have a homeless crisis and health crisis last thing we need more migrants, our useless government cant even supply affordable homes but tax irish through the roof, wish we closed our borders and sorted our mess out at home first.

 

[clint van damme]

Our allies are those in the EU. They seem to be running away from them to get here. I would love to know what is so bad about the EU countries they are risking their lives to get away from. Because they are supposed to have the same human rights charter as us.

The vast majority are in Turkey and Lebanon.
Only a relatively small amount come to Europe.
I'm glad you can look at those pictures and be so facetious about it.

 

[skybluetony176]

Our allies are those in the EU. They seem to be running away from them to get here. I would love to know what is so bad about the EU countries they are risking their lives to get away from. Because they are supposed to have the same human rights charter as us.

How many exactly do you think are leaving the EU to get to us? How do you think that number compares to the numbers settling in the EU? Or even Germany or Sweden for that matter?

 

[clint van damme]

One of our partners at work is based in Beirut and on his Social Media the other day he announced that they were opening a new office in Damascus.

I have to say that this surprised me as I was, naively, under the impression that it was a war zone. He then put up pictures and videos and it literally could have been any thriving big city in the world.

I am in no way playing down what has, and is still happening, in Syria but more of my genuine surprise at how resilient the people are and how life really does ‘just go on’.

what line of work you in? I think the rebuild is tentatively starting and will get in to full swing in the next few years once they've decided who will pay for it, will be some big bucks to be made.

 

[Astute]

The vast majority are in Turkey and Lebanon.
Only a relatively small amount come to Europe.
I'm glad you can look at those pictures and be so facetious about it.

It isn't about looking at pictures. It is trying to get my head around risking their lives to leave what is a safe country.

 

[clint van damme]

It isn't about looking at pictures. It is trying to get my head around risking their lives to leave what is a safe country.

I'm more concerned with why we keep getting involved in disastrous wars in the middle East.
Stop that and a large part of the immigration issue would be solved.