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Nick

Nick

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Opposition teams must be pissing themselves now. Just sit back for 45 minutes and then come at us from the off in the 2nd half.

How many games is it? I can think of:

Fleetwood
Burton
Shrewsbury
Rochdale
Blackpool x 2
Accrington (we drew in the end)

It is far too easy for the opposition to do that. They come out in the 2nd half like completely different teams.
 
Greggs

Greggs

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Aint even 45 minutes, we run out of ideas after 30
 
chiefdave

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I don't buy in to the idea that players don't know to concentrate after the break. Saying that it can't be tactical as the opposition manager will know how we're going to play before the game. Not like we come out every well with something different.

Problem is once we go behind other teams can just pull everyone behind the ball knowing we'll happily pass it around without being able to threaten.
 
Dickie

Dickie

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Nick said:
Opposition teams must be pissing themselves now. Just sit back for 45 minutes and then come at us from the off in the 2nd half.

How many games is it? I can think of:

Fleetwood
Burton
Shrewsbury
Rochdale
Blackpool x 2
Accrington (we drew in the end)

It is far too easy for the opposition to do that. They come out in the 2nd half like completely different teams.
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Maybe the tea lady gives the lads a jam donut at half time and the sugar rush wears off
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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Our second half performance was a perfect example of how we should play had we been comfortably in front. Passing the ball, keeping possession but without actually doing anything with it.

I'm getting fed up now.
 
stevefloyd

stevefloyd

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I think because the players found it so easy in the first half they collectively daid give them a couple of goals to make a game of it
 
Pete in Portugal

Pete in Portugal

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Nick said:
Everything is pre determined. Subs seem to be as well.

Not reactive to what's going on in the game.
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I agree that MR's approach is far too formulaic and predictable. His recent adherence to a 4-2-3-1 starting lineup is an example of this. Surely he must be aware that we just do not have a striker capable of playing upfront on his own - everyone else is!
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Pete in Portugal said:
I agree that MR's approach is far too formulaic and predictable. His recent adherence to a 4-2-3-1 starting lineup is an example of this. Surely he must be aware that we just do not have a striker capable of playing upfront on his own - everyone else is!
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It is becoming problematic.

He had the system last year and due to injuries changed it to two up front - that worked and we got promoted.
He tried to go back to 4-2-3-1 at the start of this season and it didn't work again. We were again largely forced to a more 2 up top formation due to injuries again and once again improved.
Now he's going back to 4-2-3-1 again and we're not getting results.

It's like he's determined to prove that tactic works and he's right despite the fact the evidence suggests we get much better results with two strikers.
 
sylus

sylus

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What the hell does MR say to the lads at HT to make them come out so negative and weak for the second half.
 
ceetee

ceetee

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People, and seemingly even managers, forget that L1 players, with a few exceptions, are L1 players for a reason.
Asking, and expecting, them to play like Premiership players is a total nonsense
 
sylus

sylus

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I don't think there is a single fan who thinks we should be playing like premiership players,but showing some passion,desire,won't go a miss.
 
lord_garrincha

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Walsall were that confident, they waited until injury time... classic example of the Saddlers being... wait for it... STREETWISE!
 
Otis

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sylus said:
What the hell does MR say to the lads at HT to make them come out so negative and weak for the second half.
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I don't think we come out weak and negative, I just think we come out ill prepared for an opposition just having been given a roasting at half time.

We have totally dominated and the opposition that have looked no threat, but then have come out in the second half with an intention to attack and it catches us every single time.

Keeps happening and we seem ill prepared to cope with it.
 
Adge

Adge

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sylus said:
I don't think there is a single fan who thinks we should be playing like premiership players,but showing some passion,desire,won't go a miss.
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Well the truth is we are playing like Premiership players are expected to-did you not see all the conversations over the bar yesterday?
 
steve82

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I posted this on another thread but relevant on this too....
Is the blame with MR or the players for the lack of commitment or energy in the early stages of the second half.

For me I think the situation is all in the players hands. You can build the belief and gee up the players at half time giving instructions and pointers to them but as soon as they amble back out and cross the line it’s all in the players hands to be switched on and do the jobs required, we always seem first out so maybe we should be the last however will that help I doubt it.

We’ve recently started a 15 second mini running drill to raise players tempo but don’t recall it yesterday.

I’m sure MR is just as frustrated with the issue too but it needs addressing.


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ccfchoi87

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steve82 said:
I posted this on another thread but relevant on this too....
Is the blame with MR or the players for the lack of commitment or energy in the early stages of the second half.

For me I think the situation is all in the players hands. You can build the belief and gee up the players at half time giving instructions and pointers to them but as soon as they amble back out and cross the line it’s all in the players hands to be switched on and do the jobs required, we always seem first out so maybe we should be the last however will that help I doubt it.

We’ve recently started a 15 second mini running drill to raise players tempo but don’t recall it yesterday.

I’m sure MR is just as frustrated with the issue too but it needs addressing.


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For what it's worth they did do the little sprinting drill as did Blackpool. Albeit a different one to what we did at Scunthorpe
 
steve82

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ccfchoi87 said:
For what it's worth they did do the little sprinting drill as did Blackpool. Albeit a different one to what we did at Scunthorpe
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Did they, I recall we came out first as usual but didn’t pay much attention to the next minute or two, suppose the same could be said of the side.

Strange pattern we’re developing


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luwalla

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sylus said:
What the hell does MR say to the lads at HT to make them come out so negative and weak for the second half.
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I’d suggest... lads we have had all the possession and are the better team , let’s have the same again but try and get a goal & whatever you do let’s not have all this possession come back to haunt us
We all know what happens next....
By no way saying MR needs to go, but we need to start being more confident in attack! We play nice passing football, we do get in position to have a shot on goal, but too much of the play is broken down by that slight lack of attacking confidence or we just don’t go for goal as someone thinks about it too much
 
Otis

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Thing is, when a team like Blackpool has played SO badly in the first half, you have to surely expect a backlash from the opposition manager and the team to come out more determined, fighting and really going for it don't you?

It always seems to come across to the City players in the second half as if 'Well, we weren't expecting that,' when it is exactly what we SHOULD be expecting.
 
clint van damme

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I've said it for a while, when you are all over a team for the first 45 and don't score it has a massive psychologically negative affect on your own team, particularly the defence, and a positive one on the opposition.
When you're doing it regularly then the negative affect on your own team increases. Though that theory doesn't explain the capitulation at Plymouth!
 
Otis

Otis

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clint van damme said:
I've said it for a while, when you are all over a team for the first 45 and don't score it has a massive psychologically negative affect on your own team, particularly the defence, and a positive one on the opposition.
When you're doing it regularly then the negative affect on your own team increases. Though that theory doesn't explain the capitulation at Plymouth!
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I said on Saturday at half time that Blackpool would have been absolutely delighted to have gone in 0-0 after being hammered for 45 mins.

They then scored from the very first shot in the second half.
 
Johhny Blue

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Otis said:
I said on Saturday at half time that Blackpool would have been absolutely delighted to have gone in 0-0 after being hammered for 45 mins.

They then scored from the very first shot in the second half.
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It was actually their first shot of the game. Their second went in as well.
Someone posted that their left back was taken off because we ran him ragged. I think it was more a case of “They’re never going to score so we might as well throw on a striker and take the whole thing”
 
Warwickhunt

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My only worry is now that come Gillingham the City players going into the dressing room at half time getting a pep talk from MR.
 
Forever_Blue

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It is becoming problematic.

He had the system last year and due to injuries changed it to two up front - that worked and we got promoted.
He tried to go back to 4-2-3-1 at the start of this season and it didn't work again. We were again largely forced to a more 2 up top formation due to injuries again and once again improved.
Now he's going back to 4-2-3-1 again and we're not getting results.

It's like he's determined to prove that tactic works and he's right despite the fact the evidence suggests we get much better results with two strikers.
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Stubborn or just plain thick?
 
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