The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (208 Viewers)

[Astute]

The problem was caused by Brexit. Not remainers, or EU apologists as you call them.

You defended Cameron when I blamed him earlier.

 

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[Astute]

Did you actually read them?

Oh yes.

Are you going to defend them and reply to each one especially the millions given to the BBC by the EU.

 

[martcov]

Oh yes.

Are you going to defend them and reply to each one especially the millions given to the BBC by the EU.

No, but I checked one. Civitas: Civitas Institute - SourceWatch

 

[martcov]

You defended Cameron when I blamed him earlier.

No I didn’t. I don’t know what you were on about connecting him to lies from the leave campaign. He is not one of the liars referred to by Tusk. That is not defending Cameron, that is correcting you.

 

[martcov]

The BBC is funded by the public who have no choice on paying.

So Andrew Neil and Radio 4 are as big as the BBC?

Part of it.

 

[martcov]

Oh yes.

Are you going to defend them and reply to each one especially the millions given to the BBC by the EU.

Oh... and another one: Revealed: how the UK’s powerful right-wing think tanks and Conservative MPs work together

 

[Nick]

Put the French face on both sides and you have it right. But it will stay a shitfest for as long as we have EU apologists having their say.

It's those remainreferendumbasses

 

[Astute]

Jesus wept. Do you know what Tusk‘s position is? H is elected to represent the views of the Council. 27 States which you claim he doesn’t represent. He is their spokesperson.

So they wanted him to make the comments he did as he speaks for them?

And that means his dodgy past means nothing?

 

[Astute]

Oh... and another one: Revealed: how the UK’s powerful right-wing think tanks and Conservative MPs work together

Great link. Donate to us having a go at those who want Brexit.....

So how about the EU giving the BBC 4.8m € and the BBC accepting it?

 

[Astute]

No, but I checked one. Civitas: Civitas Institute - SourceWatch

SourceWatch is funded by George Soros. What a surprise.

And what about the rest of them?

 

[Astute]

No I didn’t. I don’t know what you were on about connecting him to lies from the leave campaign. He is not one of the liars referred to by Tusk. That is not defending Cameron, that is correcting you.

Are you saying that Cameron was truthful?

 

[clint van damme]

So the BBC being warned by the official watchdog on its bias means nothing and isn't true?

And look who agrees with you. What a surprise....

HAHA! I thought Sickboy said it is bias so gave him a like! I read that wrong, I believe the BBC is bias and have said so before in this thread.
In my opinion, despite what some people say, it's anti Corbyn, but I don't think it's pro tory. I definitely think it prefers a centrist Blairite type of politician, (which I've also said before).

You can keep the like Sickboy!

 

[Grendel]

Have you listened to her on YouTube? Trump apologist. Melanie Philips is not a good source.

Says who?

 

[Grendel]

And as for bias the channel 4 news programme is laughable - it’s like Russian State News

 

[skybluetony176]

I don’t get that at all, it’s ok but what facts are there that show the bbc is biased to stay in the Eu? And I think there are more pro brexit publications in the press than remain. But none are balanced really

They’ve had far more leave panelist’s on question time than remain and straight after question time is a program presented by Andrew Neil who’s very much a leaver as is half his guest presenters and guests full stop. If they are biased it’s towards leave on that basis. As Clint kept asking where’s the positive stories, they barely exist. Are the BBC supposed to fabricate some so they report an equal amount of pro and against brexit stories? Maybe we should gag them so they can only produce a anti leave article when a pro leave article is available? It’s a classic case of shooting the messenger.

 

[Otis]

You ask the question then give the answer.

Most countries if not all in the EU want a deal with us. But they have no say. It is down to people like Tusk who has a dubious background. Others at the top of the EU also have a dubious background. Countries of the EU keep banging on about changes need to be made in the EU. But it is up to those with dubious backgrounds to relinquish power.

Yes Mart. Dubious backgrounds. Shall we debate it yet again?

So not professionally worded equals outrage?

Okay.

 

[Sick Boy]

So the BBC being warned by the official watchdog on its bias means nothing and isn't true?

And look who agrees with you. What a surprise....

You’re backing yourself up with Guido, says it all.

 

[Sick Boy]

The Telegraph and The Times? Why no mention of them?

Would you like a bigger list? Just took the first 3. And not on the same reason either.

For someone who claims to be impartial, you don’t post a balanced selection of sources

 

[Sick Boy]

HAHA! I thought Sickboy said it is bias so gave him a like! I read that wrong, I believe the BBC is bias and have said so before in this thread.
In my opinion, despite what some people say, it's anti Corbyn, but I don't think it's pro tory. I definitely think it prefers a centrist Blairite type of politician, (which I've also said before).

You can keep the like Sickboy!

Haha cheers! The notion is that it’s pro-remain, which it isn’t. The more extreme elements of both sides seem to think it’s biased, so I’m not surprised you think it is.

 

[Grendel]

For someone who claims to be impartial, you don’t post a balanced selection of sources

The Times and the Telegraph are balanced sources on this subject

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Bank forecasts worst UK growth since 2009

Nothing to do with brexit, fake news and/or bias from the independent Bank of England.
Nothing to see here

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The Times and the Telegraph are balanced sources on this subject

For real????

 

[martcov]

Says who?

Me.

 

[martcov]

The Times and the Telegraph are balanced sources on this subject

Telegraph is totally Brexit.

 

[martcov]

And as for bias the channel 4 news programme is laughable - it’s like Russian State News

Because they question leavers BS?

 

[martcov]

To take jobs out of the EU?

Crap. Faragist. To keep a good economic relationship to neighbouring countries we trade with.

 

[skybluetony176]

Bank forecasts worst UK growth since 2009

Nothing to do with brexit, fake news and/or bias from the independent Bank of England.
Nothing to see here

Clearly the biased BBC coerced the BOE to say that and surpress the real story which is everything is rosie and it’s all thanks to brexit.

 

[skybluetony176]

Telegraph is totally Brexit.

Both papers have publicly stated that they’re pro brexit.

 

[Grendel]

Because they question leavers BS?

No because the political editor admits to being anti Tory and a member of the Labour Party - the bias is hilarious

 

[skybluetony176]

No because the political editor admits to being anti Tory and a member of the Labour Party - the bias is hilarious

He was a thorn in the side of Blair’s government wasn’t he? He’s been highly critical of Corbyn also and especially over brexit. Is he a member of the Labour Party? I’ll have to take your word for that but his page on Channel 4 news doesn’t suggest he’s pro labour Gary Gibbon, Political Editor – Channel 4 News in fact he seems very proud of being anything but.

 

[Grendel]

Both papers have publicly stated that they’re pro brexit.

Hello Tony how are you? Still a little light on factual accuracy I see

The Times goes for remain, days after Sun backed Brexit

 

[martcov]

No because the political editor admits to being anti Tory and a member of the Labour Party - the bias is hilarious

I like watching the leavers forced to answer awkward questions. Did you see Farage being interviewed on Irish TV recently? Called out for his BS.

 

[martcov]

Hello Tony how are you? Still a little light on factual accuracy I see

The Times goes for remain, days after Sun backed Brexit

That explains why the let Melanie Philips in.... or not.

 

[skybluetony176]

Hello Tony how are you? Still a little light on factual accuracy I see

The Times goes for remain, days after Sun backed Brexit

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

Talking about being light on factual accuracy have you had chance to read the document I PM’d you?

 

[martcov]

Clearly the biased BBC coerced the BOE to say that and surpress the real story which is everything is rosie and it’s all thanks to brexit.

Project fear in overdrive...;-) he wasn’t elected to the post and he is a foreigner... doesn’t understand British culture... haha