Otis
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In name only.Err Thorn was full time manager was he not?
In name only.Err Thorn was full time manager was he not?
In name only.
According to his reasoning HE'D give Thorn 5 years I think you mean.Yes but according to his reasoning you’d give Thorn 5 years. Doesn’t bear thinking about
Yes but according to his reasoning you’d give Thorn 5 years. Doesn’t bear thinking about
He thinks he was our best manager since Jimmy Hill
According to his reasoning HE'D give Thorn 5 years I think you mean.
Exactly... Always bugs me when someone spouts an opinion about so and so, and how we should try him as a winger etc... If you've had the idea, do you not think the manager has also thought about it and tried it...Tottenham won 3-0 tonight and played a centre back on the wing and he was MOTM. Interesting to hear from the manger
Manger said “we see these players sometimes 12 hours a day, spend time with them, work with them and develop them, people have the right to comment, but we know them”
Exactly... Always bugs me when someone spouts an opinion about so and so, and how we should try him as a winger etc... If you've had the idea, do you not think the manager has also thought about it and tried it...
They probably didn't, they probably trained with him playing on the shoulder, but pressure makes you do odd things. Making him drop deeper and deeper "looking" for the ball ( avoiding another chance dropping to him in reality) have you noticed, Chaplin went to Robins to discuss playing on the last man, he had a couple of games, dropped deeper and deeper, not done his job and Robins dropped him.Would have loved to see them practising having Chaplin in midfield in training.
They probably didn't, they probably trained with him playing on the shoulder, but pressure makes you do odd things. Making him drop deeper and deeper "looking" for the ball ( avoiding another chance dropping to him in reality) have you noticed, Chaplin went to Robins to discuss playing on the last man, he had a couple of games, dropped deeper and deeper, not done his job and Robins dropped him.
I'm as happy as anybody we have won two on the bounce.
He hasn't persisted with Chaplin and I think he will see most of the season on the bench now.
I wanted changes, they have happened!
The Sky Blues boss refuses to resort to it
I assume it's the same as in #574 (not read all of that, but the gist sounds the same)
I'm OK with MR wanting to play a particular way and even starting all games in that manner if he wants.
What I take issue with is when those tactics are clearly not working in a game then something else needs to be tried - you need to test out the opposition to find a weakness. Just doing what you've been doing all game without success and then to make like for like subs with 5 minutes to go isn't going to cut it. It's why we rarely come from behind to win and need to have a lead to hold onto. What thats old adage about trying the same thing and expecting different results?
Even the likes of SAF would be willing to take a big guy and lump it into the box in the last 5 mins if necessary. Or stick a quick forward on to exploit tired legs or a team pushing up.
Personally I prefer playing to my players strengths, but also looking at the opposition and finding a potential weakness to exploit (ie big guy at the back play it on the deck to a small, quick footed foward, small defences play a targetman and get crosses in, if they play narrow or have dodgy fullbacks stretch it out and get the wingers involved etc.)
It is a bit worrying because if opposition managers find a way to get at us then other managers will soon learn to copy it and we're in a huge downward spiral and if that happens it appears that MR is not just incapable of finding a Plan B to stop the rot, he won't even look for a Plan B. In fact from the sound of it the worse we do the more he'll stick with it out of pure pigheadedness.
I like MR but this is not a smart way to look at things.
You are a dinosaurI like MR but I think this will be his eventual downfall at the club as it’s a risky mindset to have. I understand what message he’s trying to get across but at some point in a season you need to dig in and play ugly. It’s not pretty but it can be bloody effective against the right opposition.
Can I rejoin your cult? I still haven't unpacked my bags...You are a dinosaur
MR has finnaly listened to me
Accept me as your leader!!!!
P.s LOL at thr uneducated chav cunts eho used to try tske piss because i watch foreign football snf like tiki taka lol
EGG ON YOUR FACE ONCE AGAIN MR AGREES WITH ME
WelcomeCan I rejoin your cult? I still haven't unpacked my bags...
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Welcome
All trolling aside i just wish people would realise i clearly know the most about the sport on this forum and you are lucky i post here rather than pursue a career in sports journalism
Pretty sure i never said that at ALLIndeed as you correctly said Stephen pressley was a great manager and it was lucky we signed him on a 4 year deal
You are a dinosaur
MR has finnaly listened to me
Accept me as your leader!!!!
P.s LOL at thr uneducated chav cunts eho used to try tske piss because i watch foreign football snf like tiki taka lol
EGG ON YOUR FACE ONCE AGAIN MR AGREES WITH ME
I didnt call anyone a c**t did i?No. It's not saying to lump it all the time. It's saying that when the pretty football is proving ineffective in a particular match you need another option to try and break down the opposition. Doesn't have to be lump it - it's just one of the potential options available.
If you just keep doing the tiki-taka stuff in a game it's not working in you'll more than likely lose that game - simple as. Our inability at coming back from behind shows this is a weakness of MR. That's OK - nobody's perfect. What isn't OK is that he refuses to spot this as a weakness in his coaching/mamagerial abilities and is holding both himself and the clubs he's managed back somewhat.
Take medicine. Loads and loads of people are helped/cured by penicillin - it's an amazing drug. But some people are deathly allergic to it. So if a doctor gives pencillin to an allergic patient you believe the best course of action would be to continue prescribing penicillin because it works on most other people would it? And if the things it currently cures mutated and became resistant to penicillin we should still continue with it?
And I wouldn't go calling other people uneducated chav cunts when you've got spelling and grammar like that (although I strongly suspect when you wrote that you'd been celebrating us winning with a tipple or two)
You light up this forum I must sayOh i did lol. Sowwy
Call me mad but I see far more promise in Bakayoko than I do Chaplin.
I'd prefer Baka and hiwula to be fair.I think they could well end up forming a decent partnership