Tommy Robinson (11 Viewers)

shmmeee

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so he now has his Facebook page taken down only 3 days after exposing Hope not hate and the bbc. If that’s not proof the establishment don’t like the truth nothing is. this is a bad day for free speech

You think the BBC control Facebook?

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Astute

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do you know what fascism is?
Fascist as an insult? ... As a political epithet, fascist has been used in an anti-authoritarian sense to emphasize the common ideology of governmental suppression of individual freedom. In this sense, the word fascist is intended to mean oppressive, intolerant, chauvinist, genocidal, dictatorial, racist, or aggressive.
 

martcov

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The average salary in the UK is£27,600.3 The General Secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers was paid £133,948 more than this. Paul Kenny and Tim roach at GMB were paid £263,000 between them last year.

And the point is? Do they promote hate and get involved in thuggery? It is easy money for just shouting your mouth off between various forms of criminal activity. I can’t understand you Tommy fans.
 

martcov

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It is the person and not religion. Devout Muslims are very peaceful. They spend most of their time in prayer or thinking of their religion. But if you believed what you read you would think all Muslims are terrorists.

If all Muslims are terrorists I must be a bad person as Stalin was also Atheist.

If the truth needs to come out there is a better chance of someone believing in a God being a lawful person as they have something to fear. Someone without a religion or religious beliefs has nothing to fear in that way.

The Muslims you seem to be talking about are not Muslims. They do not follow their faith. IIRC the Zabur is the original teaching but the Quran is the most used these days. Causing harm has nothing to do with practicing Muslims. I used to have serious debates with others of all faiths when we were stoned to the bone. We could say what we wanted as nobody was ever in a fit state to do anything. I found it so revealing. It is surprising how close most religions are.

Agree with most of that. Disagree with religious people being more law abiding. Our jails are full of people who count themselves as religious. The idea of frightening people with hell and damnation in the past didn’t stop crime, wars or persecution. If you are a good person you will see religion differently to how a bad person does. It goes back to what sort of person you are.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Agree with most of that. Disagree with religious people being more law abiding. Our jails are full of people who count themselves as religious. The idea of frightening people with hell and damnation in the past didn’t stop crime, wars or persecution. If you are a good person you will see religion differently to how a bad person does. It goes back to what sort of person you are.

Yeah - Mafia are famously religious. Use it as an excuse to go to confession, say a few Hail Mary's and that's it. Conscience is clear, all is forgiven and Heaven awaits cos I paid a pathetic penance.

Religion can make people do very good things and be philanthropic that they wouldn't otherwise do, but those few that go the other way tend to go big.
 

Astute

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Agree with most of that. Disagree with religious people being more law abiding. Our jails are full of people who count themselves as religious. The idea of frightening people with hell and damnation in the past didn’t stop crime, wars or persecution. If you are a good person you will see religion differently to how a bad person does. It goes back to what sort of person you are.
But those you speak of do not follow their religion to the letter. Many use it as a way of getting others to see things their way. As in hate preachers. Are you telling me a hate preacher follows a peaceful religion?
 

tommydazzle

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But those you speak of do not follow their religion to the letter. Many use it as a way of getting others to see things their way. As in hate preachers. Are you telling me a hate preacher follows a peaceful religion?
Unbelievable! If they followed their religion to the letter it would be many times worse! Luckily these religious texts are often cherry-picked by more moderate believers.
 

tommydazzle

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Let's follow religion to the letter, just a few examples from the two books followed by billions of believers worldwide.

They both prescribe the killing of disbelievers (Quran 8:12-13, 47:4; Leviticus 24:16); order their adherents to fight and enslave those with differing beliefs, a la ISIS (Quran 9:29-30, Deuteronomy 20:10-18); endorse wife-beating (Quran 4:34) and the stoning to death of non-virginal brides (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); order women to quietly submit to the authority of men (1 Timothy 2:11-12); and mandate the public lashing of fornicators (Quran 24:2) and the killing of homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13).

Lovely stuff.
 

Astute

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Unbelievable! If they followed their religion to the letter it would be many times worse! Luckily these religious texts are often cherry-picked by more moderate believers.
This shows how clueless you are on religion.

I suppose there are not any bad people who do not have religion.
 

Captain Dart

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Let's follow religion to the letter, just a few examples from the two books followed by billions of believers worldwide.

They both prescribe the killing of disbelievers (Quran 8:12-13, 47:4; Leviticus 24:16); order their adherents to fight and enslave those with differing beliefs, a la ISIS (Quran 9:29-30, Deuteronomy 20:10-18); endorse wife-beating (Quran 4:34) and the stoning to death of non-virginal brides (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); order women to quietly submit to the authority of men (1 Timothy 2:11-12); and mandate the public lashing of fornicators (Quran 24:2) and the killing of homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13).

Lovely stuff.
All this dark age and bronze age stuff is filled with vile stuff. Old testament of bible is proper sick.
 

martcov

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But those you speak of do not follow their religion to the letter. Many use it as a way of getting others to see things their way. As in hate preachers. Are you telling me a hate preacher follows a peaceful religion?

No, he selects the most hateful and barbaric quotes from his old book which he proclaims as the word of god.
 

The Lurker

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so it’s alright for 5 blokes to go his house when he’s not there and they knew that. when it happens the other way round he’s out of order? Pot kettle black. Tr was filiming it the whole time and asked to speak to him. why don’t the bloke speak to him in person instead of spouting rubbish on the net being a keyboard warrior
 

martcov

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so it’s alright for 5 blokes to go his house when he’s not there and they knew that. when it happens the other way round he’s out of order? Pot kettle black. Tr was filiming it the whole time and asked to speak to him. why don’t the bloke speak to him in person instead of spouting rubbish on the net being a keyboard warrior

Hilarious.
 

Nick

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so it’s alright for 5 blokes to go his house when he’s not there and they knew that. when it happens the other way round he’s out of order? Pot kettle black. Tr was filiming it the whole time and asked to speak to him. why don’t the bloke speak to him in person instead of spouting rubbish on the net being a keyboard warrior

No, it isn't OK for a group of blokes to go to anybodies house I don't think.

However if it is something he enjoys doing himself it is more likely to happen to him in return.
 

Grappa

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so it’s alright for 5 blokes to go his house when he’s not there and they knew that. when it happens the other way round he’s out of order? Pot kettle black. Tr was filiming it the whole time and asked to speak to him. why don’t the bloke speak to him in person instead of spouting rubbish on the net being a keyboard warrior
5 people handed the letter (informing him that he was being prosecuted for slandering that 15 year old Syrian kid) over to a police officer 50m away from Stephen's house. The guy Stephen visited for 'a chat' had helped crowdfund the legal fees. 'Tommy' is a thug and is often off his face on sniff. Fuck him, call the old bill.
 

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