Hang your heads in shame (5 Viewers)

[ccfcway]

As most shops employ part time and temporary staff and only on short term contracts, they make savings by employing less
In this case they are not fixed costs as the payroll can be flexed in line with demand

if that was the case, no problems, the high street survives.

you need a minimum level of staff and normally that minimum level of staff mean a store isn't profitable.

 

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[Nick]

The way i look at it both clubs keep A C L going 2 trying to keep it going are better than 1.As for going to a concert i might just do.

Enjoy the spice girls. Do your bit for acl.

 

[CCFC54321]

I don’t think the council will ever allow a second stadium in this city. I’d imagine behind closed doors there saying quietly “it’s not looking good for wasps is it and if they do go under we’re left with an empty station.”

 

[ccfcway]

I don’t think the council will ever allow a second stadium in this city. I’d imagine behind closed doors there saying quietly “it’s not looking good for wasps is it and if they do go under we’re left with an empty station.”

you mean stadium ?

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

you mean stadium ?

Both

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

Enjoy the spice girls. Do your bit for acl.

Think not.Bon Jovi maybe.

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

Have a look at post 40, the general tone of this and other threads. It is almost like Sisu are the victims. The only party who has truly suffered throughout this mess is the club and its fans. There was one poster on a thread the other day saying he hoped that Sisu continued with the legal action. Even though that action is undeniably harming our club, he wants them to continue. Unbelievable!
A lot seem to bang on about their right to pursue their case in the courts (even though it seems it is about distressing Wasps rather than seeking justice). How come they are now prepared to give up this search for justice if they get help from CCC with the new stadium and an acceptable rent deal from Wasps? I don’t get that at all. I agree with the view on here that CCC should do all they can to facilitate this new stadium. We either then are genuinely moving forward towards a new ground or Sisu are again exposed as the shysters that they really are. I also think Wasps are maybe playing into Sisu’s hands. Sisu will continue with the legal action whether we are at the Ricoh or not. If Wasps won’t negotiate the blame is attributed to them for the fact we are not playing in Coventry. In effect they may be doing Sisu’s dirty work for them. Lots will follow to a groundshare site, myself included, who didn’t go to Northampton.
I am sick of the lot of them. A franchise rugby club not allowing the city’s own football team to play in the stadium that was built for it. A council who have washed their hands of the citiy’s most famous sports club and whose leader could not be bothered to turn up at Westminster and who lies about the terms under which the stadium was sold to Wasps. And then we have Sisu.
They should all be ashamed of the games they have played. But they won’t be.

 

[Johnnythespider]

The way i look at it both clubs keep A C L going 2 trying to keep it going are better than 1.As for going to a concert i might just do.

So the sports teams are only there to keep acl going, what a strange state of affairs.

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

So the sports teams are only there to keep acl going, what a strange state of affairs.

Not just them other things as well sorry if it come over like that.I like nearly all on here want us to play at the Ricoh.and pissed off with the way things seem to be turning out.

 

[CanadianCCFC]

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Good point

 

[Gazolba]

Blame the council and their dodgy dealings, wouldn't be in this mess if they actually sold the Ricoh (A stadium built for football) to their own football club instead of selling on the cheap to wasps

How could they sell the Ricoh to CCFC? CCFC couldn't afford it.

 

[win9nut]

As most shops employ part time and temporary staff and only on short term contracts, they make savings by employing less
In this case they are not fixed costs as the payroll can be flexed in line with demand

As an example look at Argos, they have c25000 employees throughout the year, most of which are on permanent contracts. Over the Christmas period they flex that up to c32000 made up of flexible temporary staff. Temporary contracts end in January after they launch their new catalogue.

 

[clint van damme]

Have a look at post 40, the general tone of this and other threads. It is almost like Sisu are the victims. The only party who has truly suffered throughout this mess is the club and its fans. There was one poster on a thread the other day saying he hoped that Sisu continued with the legal action. Even though that action is undeniably harming our club, he wants them to continue. Unbelievable!
A lot seem to bang on about their right to pursue their case in the courts (even though it seems it is about distressing Wasps rather than seeking justice). How come they are now prepared to give up this search for justice if they get help from CCC with the new stadium and an acceptable rent deal from Wasps? I don’t get that at all. I agree with the view on here that CCC should do all they can to facilitate this new stadium. We either then are genuinely moving forward towards a new ground or Sisu are again exposed as the shysters that they really are. I also think Wasps are maybe playing into Sisu’s hands. Sisu will continue with the legal action whether we are at the Ricoh or not. If Wasps won’t negotiate the blame is attributed to them for the fact we are not playing in Coventry. In effect they may be doing Sisu’s dirty work for them. Lots will follow to a groundshare site, myself included, who didn’t go to Northampton.
I am sick of the lot of them. A franchise rugby club not allowing the city’s own football team to play in the stadium that was built for it. A council who have washed their hands of the citiy’s most famous sports club and whose leader could not be bothered to turn up at Westminster and who lies about the terms under which the stadium was sold to Wasps. And then we have Sisu.
They should all be ashamed of the games they have played. But they won’t be.

you're sort of agreeing with what I was saying, you're slating sisu but also giving examples of where others have acted against the football club, I think that's what the majority of people are driving at, you don't seem to think so which is an opinion you're entitled to hold but I don't agree with that aspect of your argument.

 

[Skybluefaz]

How could they sell the Ricoh to CCFC? CCFC couldn't afford it.

Wasps couldn't afford it but they sold it to them

 

[ccfcway]

As an example look at Argos, they have c25000 employees throughout the year, most of which are on permanent contracts. Over the Christmas period they flex that up to c32000 made up of flexible temporary staff. Temporary contracts end in January after they launch their new catalogue.

You wonder why in this day and age they still produce a catalogue

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

you're sort of agreeing with what I was saying, you're slating sisu but also giving examples of where others have acted against the football club, I think that's what the majority of people are driving at, you don't seem to think so which is an opinion you're entitled to hold but I don't agree with that aspect of your argument.

No,you’re wrong.I think all parties have contributed to this mess. However, I do think that Sisu are the worst of all the bunch involved. The tone of the posts on here, particularly the one highlighted, seem to be saying that they are not so bad after all. They have all lied and schemed to the detriment of the club but none more than Sisu who seem to be now portrayed as victims.

 

[chiefdave]

How could they sell the Ricoh to CCFC? CCFC couldn't afford it.

Nor could Wasps, they loaded it with £35m in debt. Interesting there's council meeting notes that say if the Ricoh was ever sold to the football club steps must be taken to ensure they couldn't use it as security for financing. Another rule that doesn't apply to Wasps.

 

[vow]

Try to look at this from A C L's point of view you are trying to run a Stadium to keep it profitable the more use you have of it the more profitable it would be.People on here talk as though Coventry City and only them should play there (i know it was built for us ) but if you rely on only one team of our size playing in a stadium you will find it hard.Something we will find very hard if Tims one ever gets built .

Take your point, but you could say that re. every other stadium in the UK too, as it's more profitable, but it doesn't happen in the majority of clubs.

Sorry, but I stand by what I wrote, ACL tried to fuck CCFC via their greed and hatred of SISU.

 

[Warwickhunt]

How could they sell the Ricoh to CCFC? CCFC couldn't afford it.

neither could the WASPs but did it stop them from lying to punters into buying bonds knowing that they will not have funds to repay it?

 

[Fergusons_Beard]

How could they sell the Ricoh to CCFC? CCFC couldn't afford it.

What the council could have done was transferred a half share of the stadium to a local charity, kept for when CCFC could afford to buy it back....


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[4waspsting]

Dont sound right... we shall see.... ccfc still have to pay staff

 

[torchomatic]

Have a look at post 40, the general tone of this and other threads. It is almost like Sisu are the victims. The only party who has truly suffered throughout this mess is the club and its fans. There was one poster on a thread the other day saying he hoped that Sisu continued with the legal action. Even though that action is undeniably harming our club, he wants them to continue. Unbelievable!
A lot seem to bang on about their right to pursue their case in the courts (even though it seems it is about distressing Wasps rather than seeking justice). How come they are now prepared to give up this search for justice if they get help from CCC with the new stadium and an acceptable rent deal from Wasps? I don’t get that at all. I agree with the view on here that CCC should do all they can to facilitate this new stadium. We either then are genuinely moving forward towards a new ground or Sisu are again exposed as the shysters that they really are. I also think Wasps are maybe playing into Sisu’s hands. Sisu will continue with the legal action whether we are at the Ricoh or not. If Wasps won’t negotiate the blame is attributed to them for the fact we are not playing in Coventry. In effect they may be doing Sisu’s dirty work for them. Lots will follow to a groundshare site, myself included, who didn’t go to Northampton.
I am sick of the lot of them. A franchise rugby club not allowing the city’s own football team to play in the stadium that was built for it. A council who have washed their hands of the citiy’s most famous sports club and whose leader could not be bothered to turn up at Westminster and who lies about the terms under which the stadium was sold to Wasps. And then we have Sisu.
They should all be ashamed of the games they have played. But they won’t be.

And perversely you have people who want the club to fold in order to get rid of SISU. Equally fucked up POV.

 

[torchomatic]

How could they sell the Ricoh to CCFC? CCFC couldn't afford it.

The first thing Wasps did was borrow against the Stadium. There were people on here several years ago writing to the Council begging them not to sell to SISU as they were worried the first thing they would do would be to borrow against the Stadium ...

 

[fernandopartridge]

The first thing Wasps did was borrow against the Stadium. There were people on here several years ago writing to the Council begging them not to sell to SISU as they were worried the first thing they would do would be to borrow against the Stadium ...

They didn't just borrow £14m to repay the loan, they added another £20m on top for good measure

 

[Captain Dart]

The first thing Wasps did was borrow against the Stadium. There were people on here several years ago writing to the Council begging them not to sell to SISU as they were worried the first thing they would do would be to borrow against the Stadium ...

There is a big difference though. The debt is on Wasps and not on the Sky Blues.

 

[Nick]

There is a big difference though. The debt is on Wasps and not on the Sky Blues.

Ay?

 

[Fergusons_Beard]

There is a big difference though. The debt is on Wasps and not on the Sky Blues.

And they own our stadium and we don’t....


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[oldfiver]

They didn't just borrow £14m to repay the loan, they added another £20m on top for good measure

Not just good measure - they repaid the owner his debt.