Tommy Robinson (10 Viewers)

skybluetony176

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Oh please...

I cba to get into the same debates, clearly attempts to silence him and actually him and his family have been threatened countless times. When has he encouraged violence? Show me...

A couple of years ago I had no opinion on him and I’m hardly a staunch follower but he’s not the complete monster some people make him out to be.

No doubt it’s Owen Jones for you ah?

Wasn’t he finally banned from Facebook after posting “calling on people to make war against Muslims “?
 

Tommo72

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He has a criminal record involving fraud and violence. Whatever your views, he is an offender and he is violent. He is also making a fortune out of the mugs who follow him. No hero. Just a thug on a good earner.

I agree about his past, it’s well documented.

I think he’s made huge steps to try and change his profile etc and this has obviously been key in helping drive his following etc.

He makes some sense and he’s been clever in highlighting a number of individuals and challenging on a number of fronts - hence the need for him to be silenced. Many will always be quick to focus on his past just like Sky News amongst many always feel the need to call him the ‘ex EDL leader’....

Clearly his appeal has grown across a much wider audience than many expected.
 

Tommo72

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fernandopartridge

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Oh please...

I cba to get into the same debates, clearly attempts to silence him and actually him and his family have been threatened countless times. When has he encouraged violence? Show me...

A couple of years ago I had no opinion on him and I’m hardly a staunch follower but he’s not the complete monster some people make him out to be.

No doubt it’s Owen Jones for you ah?

The bloke went to a muslim area and claimed everybody who lived there was an 'enemy combatant'.
 

clint van damme

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Ah yes Hope not Hate very decent people...…

Until I came across this youtube video exposing the truth about the group.



Hope not hate recently uncovered a plot by Tommys mates national action to assassinate a democratically elected MP, (Rosie Cooper).
It then turned out that the guy who was going to go through with it was a paedophile.
I congratulate them and hope they keep up the good work.
 

skybluetony176

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Ah yes Hope not Hate very decent people...…

Until I came across this youtube video exposing the truth about the group.



Wasn’t windows on the world the restaurant at the top of the World Trade Center? Smelling a right wing conspiracy promoter straight away. They seem to attack anyone on the left or just generally anyone who isn’t of the mind set of the likes of Trump and Yaxley-Lennon looking at their other publications. Ironically accusing them of behaving like Trump and Yaxley-Lennon supporters.
 

duffer

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Oh please...

I cba to get into the same debates, clearly attempts to silence him and actually him and his family have been threatened countless times. When has he encouraged violence? Show me...

A couple of years ago I had no opinion on him and I’m hardly a staunch follower but he’s not the complete monster some people make him out to be.

No doubt it’s Owen Jones for you ah?

Evidence please. I've pointed to a well researched argument that shows any number of instances where he's either been involved in violence or implied that it's coming to those he doesn't like. Where is your proof other than in your head?

So prove that the 'state' has tried to threaten or silence him (other than when he goes beyond the bounds of the law) or accept that you're basing your opinion on prejudice rather than facts. You may not be a staunch follower, but you're certainly an enabler if jyoure willing to come on here and defend him in the face of all of the available evidence.

Try thinking for yourself rather than just falling for the lazy dog-whistle rhetoric that Robinson spouts; maybe a bit of basic research wouldn't go amiss, eh.
 

Tommo72

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Evidence please. I've pointed to a well researched argument that shows any number of instances where he's either been involved in violence or implied that it's coming to those he doesn't like. Where is your proof other than in your head?

So prove that the 'state' has tried to threaten or silence him (other than when he goes beyond the bounds of the law) or accept that you're basing your opinion on prejudice rather than facts. You may not be a staunch follower, but you're certainly an enabler if jyoure willing to come on here and defend him in the face of all of the available evidence.

Try thinking for yourself rather than just falling for the lazy dog-whistle rhetoric that Robinson spouts; maybe a bit of basic research wouldn't go amiss, eh.

What an utter load of tosh....condescending and typical of the people that dislike him. I cba to have a debate I’ve had so many times before. We have different views clearly. I have followed him from a distance for over two years and he’s changed my view but I also disagree with elements of what he’s said, stands for etc

I’m perfectly capable of thinking for myself thanks, what a shit comment. When you revert to comments like that’s you’re not worth bothering with.
 
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martcov

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What an utter load of tosh....condescending and typical of the people that dislike him. I cba to have a debate I’ve had so many times before. We have different views clearly. I have followed him from a distance for over two years and he’s changed my view but I also disagree with elements of what he’s said, stands for etc

I’m perfectly capable of thinking for myself thanks, what a shit comment. When you revert to comments like that’s you’re not worth bothering with.

Yeah, people asking for factual evidence is shit. The whole discussion nowadays is about fake news and you can say what you want. Then come these people who ask you to back things up....
 

martcov

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I did smile when I saw this....I’m sure that can of coke and cheeseburger will make all the difference lol

Yes it does. There are laws to stop people enticing voters with giveaways. You allow cheeseburgers. Then the next candidate gives away 2 cheeseburgers and 2 cokes. And so it goes upwards. All sorts of bribes and enticements. Which is why it is a total ban. Nothing to do with Tommy being a victim.
 

Macca

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I agree about his past, it’s well documented.

I think he’s made huge steps to try and change his profile etc and this has obviously been key in helping drive his following etc.

He makes some sense and he’s been clever in highlighting a number of individuals and challenging on a number of fronts - hence the need for him to be silenced. Many will always be quick to focus on his past just like Sky News amongst many always feel the need to call him the ‘ex EDL leader’....

Clearly his appeal has grown across a much wider audience than many expected.

They should be called the "so called EDL" in the interest of fairness
 

skybluetony176

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It's a very poor attempt at trying to be outraged over something instead of having to debate the points he highlights over and over about Islam.

All it does is make his arguments stronger, even if he is a pillock.

He doesn’t really have an argument though. Calling people to war against Islam isn’t an argument, calling for the followers of the Quran to be terrorised and beheaded isn’t an argument, his act of pretending he’s exposing peadophile gangs in the Muslim community isn’t an argument, pretending there’s a mosque in a prison and he’s been deliberately placed in a cell with no bed (but a TV apparently) isn’t an argument. I’m yet to hear him make an argument on any subject. He doesn’t have any answers. All he does is whip up morons into a frenzy spouting hate at a minority.
 

clint van damme

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It's a very poor attempt at trying to be outraged over something instead of having to debate the points he highlights over and over about Islam.

All it does is make his arguments stronger, even if he is a pillock.

I've aid it before and i'll say it again, there are far more erudite and knowledgeable people highlighting issues within Muslim communities, (Sam Harris, Douglas Murray, Ayan Hirsi Ali, Majid Nawaz to name a few).
No need to debate with a person like robinson.
 

Grendel

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Yes it does. There are laws to stop people enticing voters with giveaways. You allow cheeseburgers. Then the next candidate gives away 2 cheeseburgers and 2 cokes. And so it goes upwards. All sorts of bribes and enticements. Which is why it is a total ban. Nothing to do with Tommy being a victim.

It’s adding fuel to the fire though and showing that there is significantly greater scrutiny around him which legitimises his victim and anti establishment rhetoric

I’m the end he should and must stand - he should not have had a Facebook ban either. The BNP collapsed once griffin had some legitimacy as he was exposed in all his “glory” and the same should happen here
 

martcov

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It’s adding fuel to the fire though and showing that there is significantly greater scrutiny around him which legitimises his victim and anti establishment rhetoric

I’m the end he should and must stand - he should not have had a Facebook ban either. The BNP collapsed once griffin had some legitimacy as he was exposed in all his “glory” and the same should happen here

Any other candidates giving away things would get the same problems. I have said that he should be allowed to stand. If anything it broadens the discussion. People like myself have to vote now ( I do anyway ), but too many take it for granted that we elect people who will continue roughly along the same lines. The BNP died because of Farage and UKIP. I read their website a couple of times and their main concern was not the centrists, but Farage. He was preaching the same message, at least in part. A Facebook ban is a joke when The Republican Party can still spout the same message. They wouldn’t dare ban them. The EU allows me a choice of 40 candidates. A great improvement on the usual selection in the UK GE.
 

Sick Boy

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Wasn’t windows on the world the restaurant at the top of the World Trade Center? Smelling a right wing conspiracy promoter straight away. They seem to attack anyone on the left or just generally anyone who isn’t of the mind set of the likes of Trump and Yaxley-Lennon looking at their other publications. Ironically accusing them of behaving like Trump and Yaxley-Lennon supporters.

He never posts about football and posts weird YouTube conspiracy videos, including videos by someone claiming that the iPhone was going to bring the antichrist to Australia. Funnily enough he always pops up when a thread about Trump or Robinson appears.
 
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Cov City Daytrader 87

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He never posts about football and posts weird YouTube conspiracy videos, including videos by someone claiming that the iPhone was going to bring the antichrist to Australia. Funnily enough he always pops up when a thread about Trump or Robinson appears.

If it's about me then you'll find I've posted in the football forum in the past. So you obviously don't know me very well.
 

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