Adam Le Fondre! Sisu are you watching! (3 Viewers)
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SydneySkyBlue
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Makes you sick doesn't it.
SydneySkyBlue
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I don't think SISU even stumped up the cash to begin with did they?
ALF must devastated. How do we try and persuade players to join us these days when even board members don't hang around beyond a month. :facepalm:
The soothsayer
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Deluded if you ever thought he would come here. he has ambition.
F%£kin wankers! Im so annoyed. Money talks and reading didnt make a move till late august. We cud have bagged him June July if sisu werent fuckwits! Cov fans hav been mugged off for years. Never real investment, always sold our best and had to make do. Had enuff!! Sisu out! Or i wont be renewing my season ticket! Tossers.
Astute
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Never real investment? You can't be that old then. It was investing money we didn't have that got us where we are now.
SydneySkyBlue
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True but I think a fully fit goalscorer would have made enough difference to keep us up.
If we still had MK there's no doubt in my mind we'd have had more goals and therefore more points on the board. Our biggest problem this season has been not scoring enough goals.
Astute
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We would have gone into admin and had new owners by now. Odds are we would at least be back in the championship by now
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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I can't be bothered to look now, but wouldn't we have taken the 10 point hit and been 4 points above the drop zone? With bigger crowds, less ill-feeling toward the club and players like Leon Best on the books. Hmmm..... how very fortunate we are....
rob9872
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We'd have been equally disappointed. Granted it may have been a different tone of diappointment as we fell short of the play offs or endured mid table mediocrity. Its what we do and unless you're winning the league or at least challenging then we will never really be happy.
melbourneskyblue
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Thats pretty much always been Covs problem tho'
Colonel Mustard
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CCFC were already in their second straight year of declining attendances when SISU took over (this may or may not be of interest).
The likes of Leon Best would surely have been sold if the club were in administration - a firesale of all assets and cut-price hand-offs of the high salary players. Administration, with so much of the season to go at that point, would surely have made relegation even more likely than Pompey's.
And finally, we have no clue if anybody would actually have taken on the scraps of the club. McGinnity, Robinson and co were publicly pushing hard for new buyers, but the only interested parties seemed to be a couple of hedge funds and a publicity-seeker.
Grendel
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I assume you are being ironic quoting Best? The prior regimes' inability to pay an instalment on his transfer fee led to a transfer embargo if I recall correctly which was only lifted when SISU took over.
SISU offered brief life support, the same outcome was always inevitable.
Grendel
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There will be a response to this that 23,000 turned up to see Coventry play Colchester. This puzzled me at the time as it was the 8th biggest attendance at the Ricoh. Actually it is a red herring as admission was £5 and season ticket holders were given free tickets. More telling was the fact that 14,000 was also witnessed as an attendance that season.
The notion we would have been better off then is embarrasing.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Had we gone into administration, our creditors would've been shafted-and since the Council would have been one of the club's creditors, it would have missed out on money to use for public services. Result? The taxpayers, i.e. the people of Coventry, would have suffered as a consequence. Look at Portsmouth refusing to pay schools (as one example) and ask yourself if you'd prefer us to have 'enjoyed' the same kind of publicity that brings.
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Okay, the season before the takeover, the average gate across all teams in the division over the season was 18,381; and our average 20,381
In 2007/8 - the season of the takeover, the divisional average 17,162, and ours 19,124
Now, this season to date, the divisional average sits at 17,673, and our average at 15,173
Over that term, gates across the division have dropped by 3.7%, whereas our gates have dropped in excess of 25%.
Comparing the seasons 2006/7 and 2007/8 the averages across the league dropped by 6.6%, and our gates by 6.2%; so to address Colonel's point; yes gates we're in decline as cited, but our decline almost exactly mirrored that of the balance of the league in that 'window'. However, over the term, I'm sure you'll agree there's an alarming dichotomy between our performance and that of the averaged balance of the division
In 2007/8 - the season of the takeover, the divisional average 17,162, and ours 19,124
Now, this season to date, the divisional average sits at 17,673, and our average at 15,173
Over that term, gates across the division have dropped by 3.7%, whereas our gates have dropped in excess of 25%.
Comparing the seasons 2006/7 and 2007/8 the averages across the league dropped by 6.6%, and our gates by 6.2%; so to address Colonel's point; yes gates we're in decline as cited, but our decline almost exactly mirrored that of the balance of the league in that 'window'. However, over the term, I'm sure you'll agree there's an alarming dichotomy between our performance and that of the averaged balance of the division
Grendel
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Let's ignore the fact we moved into a new stadium. What do you think the crowds would have been had we stayed at Highfield Road? Truth is the average was 14,000 before and that is what it is now.
rob9872
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But thats because the stayaways are fickle and we're back to the hard core. If we had offered them entertainment and better still a winning team they would have stayed (it was our best chance of keeping them regularly) and we would have collectively reaped the benefits. The fans are there as we see on the odd big game like Chelsea in the cup or Leeds last season, but we need to give them a reason to attend. Often its a choice and especially in troubled times. Most households have a budget and we need to give them an incentive to spend that budget on CCFC as opposed to the rest of us who go through the motions out of a sense of duty.
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Lots of teams in the division over the term have moved to new stadia. Stoke, Sunderland, Blackpool, Swansea, Derby, Leicester, Reading, Middlesbrough, Southampton, Hull, etc and have seen an increase in crowds and sustained it. The facts I've now presented you with show you that almost uniquely, we haven't during SISU's watch
Grendel
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Out of interest what is Blackpool's new ground called?
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Have you been there tonight with a spray can and renamed it the 'Thorn's A Chubby Twat Arena' then?
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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I'll bid you good evening now, dear chap, but before I do, can I kindly dispel your insinuation that a team only enjoys a temporary blip in swollen gates before reverting back to that which frequented the old ground?
Can I kindly refer my learned friend toward Derby County? Moved from the Baseball Ground, which had a capacity of 18,300 in 1997. In their last season, they were in the Premier League and averaged a season-long gate of 17,889, They've since moved to Pride Park of course, and when back in the Championship were averaging - by the 2002/3 season a gate of 25,469.
Do you know what is sits at now? This season it's 26,021.
They've had a brief swansong in the top flight, and I know their legacy of footballing success means that their crowds - as a ratio of city size - are superior to ours; but they've proven that, even with the mundane being served up (they finished below us last season, for example) that crowds can be retained
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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The Le Fondre transfer - from a CCFC perspective - wasn't an episode from which we emerged with much reflected glory. Le Fondre's words were one thing, but the Rotherham chairman's withering comments with regards our approach another.
The modus operandi he described sounded alarmingly like that Markon King and his agent made reference to....
rob9872
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Not the best example imo. I agree with a lot of the other things you've said on this, but Derby showed that before the move they were operating at full capacity and probably therefore often had more wanting to attend games. At HR we were only operating at approx 60% full on average.
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Okay, okay... ;-)
How about Hull? Came into the Championship in 2005/6 averaging 19,841 - with some momentum behind them with promotion, etc - and finished last season with 21,168. Capacity at the KC being 25,586 - so latent support not being a factor here. Any better?
Yorkshire SB
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I live in Reading now, shit club with the definition of 'fair-weather fans', but they've got money and in football is a numbers game unfortunately
skybluesteve76
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Fuck all to do with Sisu! He didn't want to come here, he's said that!
All the best
All the best
covcity4life
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im pretty sure you put cody macdonald in that reading side and you will see goals too.