Sol Campbell (36 Viewers)

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Thiery Henry has been suspended, probably ahead of being sacked tonight

A stark example of how football operates

However magnificent you were as a player you'll be given no leeway as a manager unless you win games

the only hope is that sky don’t bother getting him back this has been a lucky escape for them

 

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[Terry Gibson's perm]

Disagree Rob on the TV front, I am actually finding the female pundits and commentators quite refreshing. Sky sports have been doing it too with ex female footballers and it works.

They could have all women for me as I don’t watch any of the chatter it’s all shit, to get me watching motd all they have to do is sack all the talking idiots and just put the games on it will save a fortune

 

[Liquid Gold]

Would largely agree with that. However there are some really, really bang average pundits out there annoyingly - both men and women. I find Jamie Redknapp and Alex Scott as bad as each other on Sky. Merson gets a gig purely because it's funny for simpletons when he mispronounces a foreign name

Don't watch Sky Sports but Alex Scott was great during the World Cup, really refreshing so I'd be surprised if her levels had dropped so much.

 

[covcity4life]

having seen monoco play this year i dont personally think they are a million miles away from getting it right and would have liked henry to get more time. especially with new signings they have brought in like fabregas and gelson martins

but i think its his conduct that got him sacked not just results

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Essentially it does as many grammar schools that didn’t survive the cull of the socialist mafia of the late 70’s were given some tax exemptions to become “private” - the two in Coventry being prime examples - some boroughs held onto grammar status but the act of selection on ability at 11 is the same

I think that the removal of grammar schools was short sighted and was destined to drag standards down, but at the same time I don't think grammar/private schools as they were were a good thing for society either as they give its students this sense of superiority and "I'm better than you" for a lifetime and often that then gets past on generation to generation. You even see it now with the "Waitrose mob" looking down on "the poor people".

A far better idea, but would take longer to change public perception, is to get rid of the idea it's a hierarchy with grammar above things like technical colleges. Instead they should be looked at as on the same level, just making the most of an individuals abilities, be they practical or intellectual, and therefore maximising their education and benefit for society.

I'd have much more suited a grammar school, but at the same time I'm quite glad I had a comprehensive education as I feel I'm a far more rounded individual with more experiences of different ways of life and cultures because of it. Had I been in that grammar school bubble I think I'd be a right insufferable little prick (well, even more of one anyway!)

 

[shmmeee]

I think that the removal of grammar schools was short sighted and was destined to drag standards down, but at the same time I don't think grammar/private schools as they were were a good thing for society either as they give its students this sense of superiority and "I'm better than you" for a lifetime and often that then gets past on generation to generation. You even see it now with the "Waitrose mob" looking down on "the poor people".

A far better idea, but would take longer to change public perception, is to get rid of the idea it's a hierarchy with grammar above things like technical colleges. Instead they should be looked at as on the same level, just making the most of an individuals abilities, be they practical or intellectual, and therefore maximising their education and benefit for society.

I'd have much more suited a grammar school, but at the same time I'm quite glad I had a comprehensive education as I feel I'm a far more rounded individual with more experiences of different ways of life and cultures because of it. Had I been in that grammar school bubble I think I'd be a right insufferable little prick (well, even more of one anyway!)

Grammar schools just embed privilege and draw decent students away from comprehensives. We were slowly moving towards vocational gaining parity, but the Mickey Mouse courses and focus on grades meant they got abused and absolutely decimated when the Tories got in.

I nearly got sent to Henry’s instead of Alderman Callow and I’m glad I didn’t, as you say it makes you a more rounded individual (even if you don’t appreciate it at the time!).

Send everyone to their local school and fund them all properly for small class sizes and rich extra curricular opportunities.

(Though I would bring in diverse education at 14-19 that could look like trade and grammar schools)

(What’s this got to do with Sol Campbell?)

 

[Nick]

I'd have loved to go to a different school.

The only thing I would miss from my school is my dodgy mates I wouldn't have had!

 

[Grendel]

Again no it doesn't... there is more to being a private school than simply being selective.

Only as grammars were expunged in the socialist purge

 

[Grendel]

Grammar schools just embed privilege and draw decent students away from comprehensives. We were slowly moving towards vocational gaining parity, but the Mickey Mouse courses and focus on grades meant they got abused and absolutely decimated when the Tories got in.

I nearly got sent to Henry’s instead of Alderman Callow and I’m glad I didn’t, as you say it makes you a more rounded individual (even if you don’t appreciate it at the time!).

Send everyone to their local school and fund them all properly for small class sizes and rich extra curricular opportunities.

(Though I would bring in diverse education at 14-19 that could look like trade and grammar schools)

(What’s this got to do with Sol Campbell?)

It’s myopic drivel like this than denies working class children opportunity and encourages mediocrity and drudgery.

The local school mantra also is absurd as even comprehensives are effectively selected by property price and post code

You have a huge chip on your shoulder so your claim of being rounded is hilarious

 

[skyblue025]

Anyway despite being a bit of a knobber, Sol is doing a decent enough job.

 

[Covstu]

I did have to double check whether this was the sol Campbell thread!

 

[skybluegod]

Only as grammars were expunged in the socialist purge

Yes I haven’t disagreed with that point.

 

[David O'Day]

It’s myopic drivel like this than denies working class children opportunity and encourages mediocrity and drudgery.

The local school mantra also is absurd as even comprehensives are effectively selected by property price and post code

You have a huge chip on your shoulder so your claim of being rounded is hilarious

Mate I had great teachers at my comp. I also when to uni so what chance was I denied? Typical clueless Tory

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[CanadianCCFC]

Not sure what this threads turned into but I think sol could probably do a job managing us

 

[Grendel]

Well he did a great job in the end

 

[Nick]

Was it 16 behind when he took over?

 

[covmark]

Was it 16 behind when he took over?

7 I think

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[JulianDarbyFTW]

I was on their forum a few weeks back, just browsing to see what they thought of him, and they weren't overly pleased. Strange really, given that from an outside perspective he seems to have done a decent job.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I was on their forum a few weeks back, just browsing to see what they thought of him, and they weren't overly pleased. Strange really, given that from an outside perspective he seems to have done a decent job.

Football fans are rarely happy with the manager

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Was it 16 behind when he took over?

7 I think

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I’m sure it was 7 off the team directly above them and a lot more from safety.

 

[CanadianCCFC]

30 points in 26 games for him after they got 14 points in 20 games before him.

 

[Grendel]

7 I think

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They’d only won 2 in 20 I think

 

[skybluegod]

They were 17 points behind having played a game more than the last safe team.

They have also been in financial trouble and players have been paid late twice and they still hadn't been paid April's wages at the start of today. In reality, Sol has done a great job. I dislike his personality and think he is a dick, but he has done a very good job.

 

[covcity4life]

Well he did a great job in the end

Indeed. Brillisnt salvage job.


A grest football mind clearly

 

[Magwitch]

They were 17 points behind having played a game more than the last safe team.

They have also been in financial trouble and players have been paid late twice and they still hadn't been paid April's wages at the start of today. In reality, Sol has done a great job. I dislike his personality and think he is a dick, but he has done a very good job.

Why is he a dick ?

 

[skybluegod]

Why is he a dick ?

Just go back through the thread for plenty of brilliant examples.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Got to say fair play to him for keeping Macclesfield up from where he started. Will be interesting to see how they get on next season.

 

[covmark]

They were 17 points behind having played a game more than the last safe team.

They have also been in financial trouble and players have been paid late twice and they still hadn't been paid April's wages at the start of today. In reality, Sol has done a great job. I dislike his personality and think he is a dick, but he has done a very good job.

No chance were they 17pts behind third bottom when he took over.

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[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Fair play to him. Proved me wrong - has done an excellent job, Miles behind and kept them up

 

[Covstu]

Brilliant job and proved a lot of doubters wrong. Sadly not a team who he can push much further up the league but if he achieved mid table next season he would certainly be earning his worth

 

[ajsccfc]

Hopefully we can retire the term 'race card' for at least a good while now.

 

[ccfcway]

Hopefully we can retire the term 'race card' for at least a good while now.

and this thread as it has nowt to do with ccfc

 

[no_loyalty]

Has left Macclesfield by mutual consent, after 8 months in charge.

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Has left Macclesfield by mutual consent, after 8 months in charge.

Must have another job to go to?

 

[JulianDarbyFTW]

They're in financial turmoil aren't they? He's had relative success there, and a fairly good start to the season, so it's unlikely to be a results related decision.