fellatio_Martinez
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Watch out Dara. Liquid Gold might call you racist.
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Watch out Dara. Liquid Gold might call you racist.
Liquid Gold
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Did I call you a racist? Did I literally say earlier in the thread people can be as racist as they want in their own home. You’re fucking losing it mate.
If there was a vacuum inside your skull
it may stand up as a reference to the idea that the monarchy or celebrity is a bit of a circus/zoo
Just incredulous though
Didn't he get in hot water back in the day for some other faux pas?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Really surprised by this. I've never heard Baker do or say anything of this nature before in a very long career, and have enjoyed his appearances on panel shows etc and although his radio show isn't my cup of tea (or sausage sandwich) he does have a very approachable and disarming presenting persona.
But this must have been complete and utter brain bypass to at no point have thought how that might (in fact would most likely would) be construed. Being sacked was pretty much the only option the BBC had (though you do wonder if it'd been a 'bigger' name?).
He's made it so much worse since as well by claiming stuff like he didn't know they were having a baby - c'mon.... He really should have accepted he made a monumental momentary error of judgement and accepted it with grace, humility and an apology. It's not like he won't end up somewhere - likely talkRadio/Sport
TBH I'd forgotten Markle was mixed-race and that therefore the baby was too until that point. Now I'm wondering how will he fit in in the ultra-white conservative aristocracy and gentry?
But this must have been complete and utter brain bypass to at no point have thought how that might (in fact would most likely would) be construed. Being sacked was pretty much the only option the BBC had (though you do wonder if it'd been a 'bigger' name?).
He's made it so much worse since as well by claiming stuff like he didn't know they were having a baby - c'mon.... He really should have accepted he made a monumental momentary error of judgement and accepted it with grace, humility and an apology. It's not like he won't end up somewhere - likely talkRadio/Sport
TBH I'd forgotten Markle was mixed-race and that therefore the baby was too until that point. Now I'm wondering how will he fit in in the ultra-white conservative aristocracy and gentry?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I find this bit intriguing, because he'll be brought up in so much wealth and privilege he'll have far more in common with upper class white people in Britain than anyone black or mixed race. But as I've said before that set it ultra white and conservative so will he be accepted (but given he's 'proper' aristocracy I think he will be by the class driven gentry).
Westendlad
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I know when i heard the 'circus' excuse i thought what a lying cnut........100% wanker.
fellatio_Martinez
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You implied that I was racist for defending something "racist". Go back and read your posts.
It's pretty futile arguing this though so I'll leave it there.
rondog1973
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Inclined to agree with this...
If he was genuinely racist, why after a media career spanning well over 30 years would he tweet something not just passively racist but the crassest form of it, i.e: comparing someone black/of mixed race to an ape? It's not like the type of racism perpetuated by your Trumps, Johnsons and Farages of this world nor the concealed Ron Atkinson type (caught off air engaging in deep rooted stereotypes).
He can't complain at being sacked, but am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt that it was just a shite joke that was bound to fly way over the heads of all exposed to it, not least due to the glaring racial implications he overlooked.
rondog1973
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The media 'circus' surrounding the latest royal arrival.
Nick
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But that image looks nothing like a circus? It's not as if he posted a picture in a big top with a ringmaster.
How do you get Circus from his tweet? He didn't even put it in the text.
It was a monkey in human clothes with a mum and dad and it was labelled "royal baby leaves hospital". The image looks as if the monkey is with 2 humans leaving somewhere.
Tommo1993
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If I had a picture of me, my wife and our new child, and someone commented with exactly the same pic as Baker posted, I’d take it in good humour. But ohhhh because the mother has a slight tinge to her skin it’s racist. Such bollocks. Innocuous joke. Perhaps he didn’t consider how the country is ridiculously sensitive to this thing now, his mistake, but it’s so innocuous.
Nick
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Why on earth would it cross somebody's mind to post a picture of a monkey in reply to you, your wife and your new child?
How does that thought process work? How is it relevant to a circus?
rondog1973
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As you say maybe he couldn't find one with a man and woman leading out a young Ronald Mcdonald. Perhaps he was hoping the Victorian context would lend comparatives, I don't know, goes more towards crap, ill conceived joke than believing the guys a C18 type though in my opinion.
hill83
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I can accept he's not racist as such, in that he doesn't spend his time being the Alf Garnett of this world, but that was a tweet that undoubtedly had racist connotations. So the best I can manage is that for someone who's worked in the media for many many years, he's remarkably stupid. Or indoctrinated because of his age / upbringing / whatever to not understand how it looks.
Regardless of the charitable interpretations, it's a sackable offence, because it is racist, and it is insulting. His position means he *has* to know better, surely. There's a long tradition of comparing black people to monkeys after all... so he *has* to know better! You just don't do that, if you've got any kind of sanity inside your head.
I also appreciate that in public he has to come up with a spot of bravado after the event, but I'd hope in private he's thinking 'oh bollocks'.
fellatio_Martinez
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Danny Baker isn't funny. His jokes are weird, eccentric and often don't make a lot of sense. He wears a fez ffs!
That doesn't make him racist.
dancers lance
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It's a bit of an odd one this, Baker would have been fully aware that the picture would cause this reaction, it's as if he posted it "accidentally on purpose", I just can't work it out?
fellatio_Martinez
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In this case, it's so out of the blue and uncharacteristic that he should be given the benefit of the doubt.
He also deleted the tweet and repeatedly apologised.
Maybe if he Self-flagellated himself in front of Buckingham Palace he'd be forgiven.
Nick
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But where's the humour? Let's say the baby had both white parents. What's funny?
Tommo1993
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Let’s say the baby had both white parents. We wouldn’t be here debating because nobody would be offended. If I’d just had a kid and I received a joke card with a picture of a little chimp in a nappy it’d be pretty funny
dancers lance
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"Maybe if he Self-flagellated himself in front of Buckingham Palace he'd be forgiven" ahh....the good old days.
I don't believe for one second that Baker is a racist, nor do I think that many of those calling him one actually do (but they just gotta be offended) I'm just saying it's an odd one.
Westendlad
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Nah that's bollocks.........He knew that Mum was a black lady so no excuse.
Grendel
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They are not both white and it’s not a funny photo but frankly disturbing
Grendel
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It’s a racist photo in the context it’s been produced
dancers lance
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I completely get that, and I can't even comprehend why he posted it, but it seems like the actions of a person that is more mentally unstable than an out and out racist.
Nick
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If they were both white it would be very weird wouldn't it? It's like me saying if I threw a banana at a black man they shouldn't be offended because a white man wouldn't.
If somebody threw a banana at me I'd be baffled, if they threw it at somebody who was black or mixed race then it's the intent and meaning behind it.
Do you really not get that?
Westendlad
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Say if i was expecting my first child with my wife who happened to be a black lady and we received a card as you described then i would be hurt and would not see the 'funny' side at all.
fellatio_Martinez
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Just because a joke can be interpreted as racist doesn't mean there was racist intent behind it.
What's wrong with people these days that makes them think they can read minds and nail someone to the cross for one mistake?
Put the fucking pitchforks down and realise that humans make honest mistakes.
Everything isn't so black and white (ooh racist)
What's wrong with people these days that makes them think they can read minds and nail someone to the cross for one mistake?
Put the fucking pitchforks down and realise that humans make honest mistakes.
Everything isn't so black and white (ooh racist)
Westendlad
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Now normally i would agree in this crazy pc world but nah not having it.......Just had a baby, both happy as anything and this appears on their social media......So not right.
Not sure if this has been said already, but anyone who knows his shows, he has a long running theme of monkeys dressed as people. He has put loads of pictures online for years.
Ok it was a daft thing in the context of the news but jesus people saying he is racist, i just don't see him as that kind of person.
Ok it was a daft thing in the context of the news but jesus people saying he is racist, i just don't see him as that kind of person.
Tommo1993
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Ever called a little kid a monkey, cheeky monkey, whatever? But you wouldn’t to a kid who wasn’t white? In that case the racism is all in your mind. I’ve called a mixed race little boy a cheeky monkey. How did the parents react? Just fine, because they’re not sensitive little daisies, they knew there was nothing in it.