Brighton sack Hughton (9 Viewers)

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

This is a pretty crap decision!
He took them to the FA Cup semi final and didn't get relegated.
When he took over, they were fighting relegation from the Championship!

I thought he'd done well with what he had.

 

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[rob9872]

Assume they must have someone lined up and were waiting for the season to end. Done an ok job I think. We were just discussing in the office where would be a good next move for him as ideal to get you out of the Championship and think West Brom could be a perfect fit for next season assuming they don't get out this time.

 

[Nick]

Perfectly lined up for Bruno who said yesterday he wants to stay in football and Brighton is his home.

 

[ccfctommy]

Spend nearly eighty million pounds and just pipped Cardiff. Maybe the right decision.

 

[fernandopartridge]

TBH though, football is reduced to 75% of the teams in the top flight now believing that 'staying up' is praisworthy, the wool has been well and truly pulled over our eyes.

I can see why they sacked him, they got 36 points. When the top flight was a bit more competitive that points total would see you relegated. They are dreadful to watch as well.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Right decision. Form terrible second half of the season, they'd be certs to go down if that happened next season. Went backwards from last season despite spending some cash, and an FA Cup Semifinal masked how bad the season was, really.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Easy money backing on getting them relegated next year now. Unfortunately with the money in the league survival is the only option for teams with a certain level of resources. Wolves and Leicester buck the trend because their owners are prepared to pump a lot more in. When teams think they're entitled to more it invariable fails and they do poorly e.g. Stoke, Hull, Wigan etc.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

They picked up bad form the last few months but at the end of the day they are not ready to move to the mid-table level and them staying up is an achievement.

Bad decision for me, hope is employed elsewhere quickly (Cardiff if Warnovk leaves?)

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[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Easy money backing on getting them relegated next year now. Unfortunately with the money in the league survival is the only option for teams with a certain level of resources. Wolves and Leicester buck the trend because their owners are prepared to pump a lot more in. When teams think they're entitled to more it invariable fails and they do poorly e.g. Stoke, Hull, Wigan etc.

Huddersfield and Fulham too?

 

[Liquid Gold]

Huddersfield and Fulham too?

I think Huddersfield just ran out of luck and Fulham didn't adapt to the next level. Definitely poor managerial recruitment by the latter though.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Huddersfield and Fulham too?

Huddersfield did well to stay up one season, then it caught up with them. Fulham spunked a relative fortune pre-season to achieve nothing.

Stoke have been the perenial underachievers too, they';ve spent a fair whack on established players, only to go backwards. Problem is, now they don't really have the foundations, so it'll need a massive overhaul.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Huddersfield did well to stay up one season, then it caught up with them. Fulham spunked a relative fortune pre-season to achieve nothing.

Stoke have been the perenial underachievers too, they';ve spent a fair whack on established players, only to go backwards. Problem is, now they don't really have the foundations, so it'll need a massive overhaul.

None of them have the foundations, the game doesn't have any foundations. For all the credit given to Liverpool and Man City, how many home grown players were members of their Championship winning squads?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

None of them have the foundations, the game doesn't have any foundations. For all the credit given to Liverpool and Man City, how many home grown players were members of their Championship winning squads?

It's as much an evnue to go down though, if you need to. Stoke have next-to-nothing beneath the first team, they've spent all their cash on older players on big salaries, who aren't necessarily motivated to go up from the Championship, or for that matter have any experience of it. They need to rip out their old guard and look for younger, hungry players on the way up but, in doing so, they risk never getting back up themselves as the squad ended up totally imbalanced.

At least Man City and Liverpool have a youth system of note. OK, so it's furiously difficult to get through it to the first team, but it is there! Had the title race been decided one way or another a bit sooner, would we have seen more of Foden etc?

Sure, it needs bravery to force clubs to bring through younger talent, but some clubs seem to ignore that altogether. Stoke seem a prime example through the top flight years where the signings were all nearly-made-its rather than getting-theres..

 

[Liquid Gold]

Man City have a great youth team just no progression to the first team. Sancho doing well at Dortmund, Foden looking quality when given the opportunity and Diaz being bought by Real show when they're doing with youth is working.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

I heard a guy on the radio not long ago (probably about the time they were relegated) saying that Huddersfield had invested well for the Championship, so they'll be alright next year, especially with the parachute, but had been financially prudent after promotion (which he said was a good thing). You can't do that in the Prem in this day and age, and get away with it. Fulham spunked enormously and still failed miserably, so they are probably worst of all.
I didn't realise Brighton had spent so much - but at least they stayed up, and earned an estimated £103M (which they can also expect next year) - but that isn't down to Hughton, i suppose.

 

[Covstu]

I am surprised they have done it but I doubt this was a knee jerk reaction given the club involved. I suppose its the best time in order to give them the opportunity to find the right person (if they haven't already). I was surprised by the amount spent and I can barely mention a player in their team but again what does they board want? Clubs like Brighton, Bournemouth, Burnley etc don't want European football given the demands on the squads so a safe target is 10th place and maybe a cup run? Not sure that's an existence but I suppose it makes money!

 

[tisza]

TBH though, football is reduced to 75% of the teams in the top flight now believing that 'staying up' is praisworthy, the wool has been well and truly pulled over our eyes.

I can see why they sacked him, they got 36 points. When the top flight was a bit more competitive that points total would see you relegated. They are dreadful to watch as well.

Teams having to spend their PL TV riches just to stay up.
Football paying the price for poor management when they've let wages in particular expand out of all proportion to performance or value. Teams also paying well over the odds in transfer fees from other European clubs as well. When you look at what Brighton spent their 80m on you just can't see the value.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

but again what does they board want?

I assume progress. And that progress can be measured in terms of improved foundations, improved squad, improved league position, improved finances, improved playing style... whatever.

But have Brighton improved anywhere this season? As far as I can see they've gone backwards in some areas, stayed the same (at best) in others.

 

[Covstu]

I assume progress. And that progress can be measured in terms of improved foundations, improved squad, improved league position, improved finances, improved playing style... whatever.

But have Brighton improved anywhere this season? As far as I can see they've gone backwards in some areas, stayed the same (at best) in others.

no different to Burnley, they looked dead and buried and then their second half of the season was better (so Brighton's season in reverse!). I don't think this is a league for stabilisation unless you want to get to Europe. Leicester/Wolves/Everton etc have the squads to start challenging and some of the lower teams get that one or two great signings who make the team click but I think that's a lot of luck rather than certain judgement!!

 

[Liquid Gold]

I’m surprised you don’t see more Jarni’s with EPL clubs using European counterparts as intermediaries to drive down fees.

 

[tisza]

no different to Burnley, they looked dead and buried and then their second half of the season was better (so Brighton's season in reverse!). I don't think this is a league for stabilisation unless you want to get to Europe. Leicester/Wolves/Everton etc have the squads to start challenging and some of the lower teams get that one or two great signings who make the team click but I think that's a lot of luck rather than certain judgement!!

They are both playing a style of football designed to eke out enough points to survive every season. could be described as L1 football played by better players.
Not many are going to turn on the TV to watch Burnley vs Brighton on a Sunday afternoon unless you like your football a certain way.
But one of those 2 have a good day and get stuck into a top 6 side that don't fancy it it's quite enjoyable. But those games are few and far between and it's usually a bit of a tonking. When most lower sides try and play football against better opposition they get spanked - take Fulham this year.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

A good decision to get rid of him the football if you can call it that is terrible, he was lucky that the three at the bottom were so poor, they might get relegated next year but under Hughton they would have been anyway.

The teams that just do enough like them and Burnley must be paying that Leeds or Villa don’t come up as they will spend and push them further down.

 

[Gazolba]

The cold hard fact is that half of the clubs will finish in the bottom half of the table.
And ... gulp ... someone has to finish bottom.
It's an inescapable fact no matter how good the clubs or managers are.

 

[Covstu]

The cold hard fact is that half of the clubs will finish in the bottom half of the table.
And ... gulp ... someone has to finish bottom.
It's an inescapable fact no matter how good the clubs or managers are.

With you on this, there is a gulf in class in the division and it’s generally about being the 4th worst as a starting point. Norwich, sheff Utd, Derby, West Brom will struggle next year unless they spend wisely. Leeds and villa might do okay but mid table at best. Like us, surviving was success and not being in the mix with 5 games to go was a great season!

 

[speedie87]

Right decision I say they were dire to watch. What’s point of staying up if u have to watch a team that hardly ever crosses the half way line

 

[fernandopartridge]

With you on this, there is a gulf in class in the division and it’s generally about being the 4th worst as a starting point. Norwich, sheff Utd, Derby, West Brom will struggle next year unless they spend wisely. Leeds and villa might do okay but mid table at best. Like us, surviving was success and not being in the mix with 5 games to go was a great season!

Why would Leeds or Villa do any better than the aforementioned?

 

[Covstu]

Why would Leeds or Villa do any better than the aforementioned?

Villa and Leeds both been told they will have money to spend, maybe sheff Utd will also I guess

 

[tisza]

Villa and Leeds both been told they will have money to spend, maybe sheff Utd will also I guess

Fulham had a 100m to spend

 

[RoboCCFC90]

This is a pretty crap decision!
He took them to the FA Cup semi final and didn't get relegated.
When he took over, they were fighting relegation from the Championship!

I thought he'd done well with what he had.

This is the correct decision.

Brighton spent £31.3m in the summer (according to Sky Sports) on transfers, but beyond that it's progression - Brighton haven't showed any.

Each promoted club from the Championship is looking to survive in their first season and then build, something Brighton haven't done, finishing above the relegation zone in both seasons in the EPL.

They aren't going to be the biggest spenders in the League, but EPL club owners are looking at stabilising due to the revenues on offer.

I do think Hughton's job would have been safe had Brighton beaten Man City in the FA Cup semi final.

 

[Mcbean]

The prem needs teams at Brighton’s level or there would be no big winning streaks for the big boys - who is Potter from Swansea , never heard of him !