Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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The Ricoh.. (24 Viewers)
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Terry Gibson's perm
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Keep watching though just in case
Nick
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It's on LIVE TV after Topless Darts.
Nick
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No it's a complaint made in Feb but there is overdrive about it.
Can only assume we will hear more and something else will come out which is why everybody needed to be angry at SISU.
Grendel
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You won’t find Anne Lucas on there I don’t think
OffenhamSkyBlue
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:vomit:
Forever_Blue
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That anger will always remain for the majority of supporters no matter what. That ship has sailed.
Terry_dactyl
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Also, as Sisu correctly highlighted (I’m not a sisu apologist!), wasps were able to negotiate previously when ‘legals’ were underway...what’s changed?
(I really do hate wasps though).
Winny the Bish
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Sky are saying talks have collapsed because the European Commission is now investigating the complaint.
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SkyBlueDom26
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Coventry City's proposed Ricoh Arena return blocked by European Commission
All the optimism gone within the space of 24 hours. Fuck every party involved in destroying our football club
All the optimism gone within the space of 24 hours. Fuck every party involved in destroying our football club
covcity4life
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hmmm seems council tactics to blame sisu for breakdown in talks
torchomatic
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Nor Xhamster. Will keep looking though.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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Fake news - it hasn't been "blocked by European Commission" at all! It is one party's attitude that may have blocked CCFC's return
SkyBlueDom26
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Sky sports 'sources' mean Gilbert so could be bullshit
SkyBlueCRJ
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It's a play on words that makes it sound that way. Which suggests the story clearly has been leaked by the council, Gilbert or Wasps.
chiefdave
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So basically the same rubbish Gilbert has put out and nothing they've confirmed for themselves. No reason the complaint to the European Commission made in February should cause talks that have been going on for the last three weeks.
As far as I'm concerned if Wasps & the council are putting this out there as a reason for talks collapsing its a clear indicator that the reality is a good chunk of the blame lies with them. After all if the real reason for talks collapsing but the blame squarely on SISU there would be no reason to spin this rubbish.
Liquid Gold
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Obviously trying to shiftr the blame on sisu for the talks falling apart. Some people will buy it because they can't see anything past sisu=bad so everybody else=good.
Liquid Gold
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If the commission are investigating it what the fuck do people want sisu to do. They can't go to them and say "we decided this broken law isn't in our interest now please drop your investigation".
Complete red herring.
Complete red herring.
SkyBlueDom26
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I bet the council and wasps were over the moon that something else has came up so they don't have to have us at the ricoh
SkyBlueCRJ
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You have to wonder if Wasps were ever serious about entering negotiations with CCFC as so far they've clearly employed stalling tactics by regularly moving the goalposts when talks were actually progressing. Putting my tin foil hat on slightly but it wouldn't surprise me if they've saved using the European Commission investigation as a scapegoat to put an end to the negotiations if CCFC refused to bend the knee to their terms.
duffer
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So, it's a complaint direct to the European Commission about whether the council acted against EU law. This isn't a court case, so no further legal costs to any party. Reading the blurb on the EC site, there's no way to claim damages other than via national courts, and as it stands that route has been exhausted.
The risk here would seem to be to the Council directly, being exposed as failing to follow EU law. Maybe if the Commission found that true, SISU could start another case in the courts for damages against CCC but that seems a very long way away, and with an even slimmer chance of Wasps being directly impacted.
The truth here as I see it, is that there's nothing stopping Wasps agreeing a short-term deal whilst this plays out. Unless of course, they want to protect the Council by blackmailing SISU to withdraw the complaint.
To me, it seems obvious that the Council and Wasps are in an unhealthy co-dependent relationship, that at the very least implies that the Council will risk public funds and bend various laws to ensure that Wasps do not fail, and in return Wasps will pressure SISU to drop a legitimate complaint against a public body.
Executive summary: It stinks, and the club and the fans suffer.
Edit: 'Legitimate' in that SISU are entitled to raise a complaint, not that it's entitled to succeed. I have serious doubts that it'll get anywhere, given the scrutiny it's already had from the courts here...
The risk here would seem to be to the Council directly, being exposed as failing to follow EU law. Maybe if the Commission found that true, SISU could start another case in the courts for damages against CCC but that seems a very long way away, and with an even slimmer chance of Wasps being directly impacted.
The truth here as I see it, is that there's nothing stopping Wasps agreeing a short-term deal whilst this plays out. Unless of course, they want to protect the Council by blackmailing SISU to withdraw the complaint.
To me, it seems obvious that the Council and Wasps are in an unhealthy co-dependent relationship, that at the very least implies that the Council will risk public funds and bend various laws to ensure that Wasps do not fail, and in return Wasps will pressure SISU to drop a legitimate complaint against a public body.
Executive summary: It stinks, and the club and the fans suffer.
Edit: 'Legitimate' in that SISU are entitled to raise a complaint, not that it's entitled to succeed. I have serious doubts that it'll get anywhere, given the scrutiny it's already had from the courts here...
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SkyBlueCRJ
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You do have to wonder who's advising them, as whether they have a legitimate case or not the legals are clearly a lost cause.
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Question to Wasps needs to be if they knew SISU had complained to the EC when they entered negotiations? If SISU didn't tell them, then that was a bit fucking silly.
chiefdave
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Wouldn't be the first time either.
There was the time the club were working on the deal that had just ended. They said they were expecting to make an announcement before Xmas as the deal was pretty much done then Wasps took it off the table and it went to the last minute.
Not to mention when Anderson was here and in talks about a long term deal, he spoke to the CT and said things were progressing well, as did Wasps, next things Wasps have walked away so no further talks until all legal action is dropped.
There's a pattern forming here.
torchomatic
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They said drop legal action and then they would negotiate. This isn't legal action. Who leaked it?
chiefdave
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I'm going to hazard a guess that SISU take their legal advise from lawyers and legal experts rather than football fans :woot:
Exactly. People need to think a bit more critically as to why wasps are so adamant they can’t negotiate while any “legals” are going on.
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OffenhamSkyBlue
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True, but you've got to admit it seems like they're willing to have a punt at anything, out of spite as much as anything!
covcity4life
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ffs so where r we ground sharing?