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OffenhamSkyBlue
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The route in national courts hasn't been exhausted - there is still the potential for civil action against Wasps or the Council (or even Higgs Trust), but that would only have a reasonable prospect of success (in my view) if the EU Commission found that they had acted illegally under EU law.
But i agree, Duffer, that it might not progress if the EC's preliminary investigation deems that the UK High Court and Supreme Court rulings have addressed relevant matters of EU law. But would SISU then appeal *that decision* to the Court of Justice for the EU (they can't appeal the original JR decision to the CJEU because UKSC refused them leave to appeal the case to them)?
SkyBlueCRJ
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I'm not suggesting otherwise. However, the expectation levels given by said lawyers are likely to be misleading do you not think? As with any form of consultancy, legal advise is a results business and if you're not getting the results yet still remaining to provide regular council then surely SISU are being fed the dream. SISU may consider their case to be completely airtight but that confidence will be drip-fed from somewhere.
Liquid Gold
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All we know (only based on rumours) at the moment is that this is a non legal investigation undertaken by a European body, not sisu, that started in February.
If the talks break down because of this London Wasps deserve all they get.
If the talks break down because of this London Wasps deserve all they get.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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He's right on his first point! Calls himself a Cov Kid? Don't think so! He's an insect larva!
Liquid Gold
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Stuff like that is one of the reasons I'm glad I'm not in the city. I don't think I'd be able to stop myself having a go at the franchise supporting cunts when they pipe up.
I was eleven in 87
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Why did they decide to investigate?
torchomatic
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Yes, even here in Warwick we get people walking around in Wasps tops. I have to bite my tongue.
Evo1883
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Rarely see wasps supporters in Coventry, see 1 or 2 twats walk around with a wasps cap or a wasps t shirt but it's extremely rare, at least over tile Hill Canley way.
On visits to the city centre I rarely if ever see anything wasps related
Liquid Gold
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Because of a complaint by sisu. One undertaken in February and as such should have been a barrier to talks beginning if they were an issue so in no way a credible reason for talks breaking down. Red herring.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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There is nothing to suggest that they are, currently. But it is alleged by Giblet that SISU have complained to the EC about the actions of the Council being contrary to EU law on public support of commercial organisations.
covcity4life
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yup. only time i see them is when wasps game on around holbrooks
i do feel like winding down window and calling them traitors.
Evo1883
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MatthewWallis
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See the tramps all the time. I was out for a meal the other week and table of 4 of them sat down on the table next to me with their Wasps coats and scarves
I was eleven in 87
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You’re right, as long as they knew about it prior to the talks beginning and were prepared to go ahead with the talks anyway.
Could Wasps, as part of their negotiations have tried to get SISU to drop that complaint and failed hence the impasse now?
Evo1883
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I'd imagine there would be a few in middle class areas like finham etc.
Rugby is a middle class sport in England really
Warwickhunt
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The complaint was made in February! So why has Gilbert taken until now to leak it on Twitter? (This guy has an Axe to grind with the clubs owners) This is engineered to Alianate the public against SISU-CCFC!. By the reaction of some fans on here it seems to be working, I was in the Pub last night and listening to punters having a right old rage at SISU about it and I explained that its not the European Court of Justice they said that Gilbert didnt say that on his Twitter! I said "My point exactly the Guy is a shit stirrer of the highest order" he is working on the fact that he sees most of his followers as morons and will not know the difference. Does anyone know how to investigate the European Commision site to find its source etc! Wonder if Reid is looking into it for the Coventry Observer
SkyBlueDom26
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Cheers for leaking this Gilbert, really have helped the situation m8
Warwickhunt
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Get everyone to unfollow Gilbert on Twitter that will fuck his Street Cred up!
chiefdave
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Luckily if you live in Coventry you never see them!
Liquid Gold
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IS it even possible for them to stop an investigation?
Evo1883
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Think a lot of people that watch them are from Birmingham or Warwickshire surrounding areas plus their hardcore London based fans, can't imagine they get much more than 2-3000 a week actually from Coventry
I was eleven in 87
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We could do with knowing exactly when he first became aware of it though do you think?
I can’t believe he would have known about it ages ago as he would not have been able to resist some ‘breaking news’ and told the story.
Could be wrong though.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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He seems quite quiet these days! Maybe he doesn't want to get embroiled and is respecting the NDAs quoted?
SkyBlueDom26
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If it was in Feb why the hell would he leak it while both parties are in negotiations
I was eleven in 87
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I don’t know really as I don’t know how the commission works?
I mean if someone made a complaint to the Police and then the victim withdrew the complaint, the Police would normally stop investigating. (Depending on the seriousness of the crime).
duffer
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Who benefits? It's hard to see it as being in SISU's interests, mid-negotiation.
The only other party who should have been aware of it would be the Council, after being asked by the EC for a response.
So either SISU leaked it, to scupper the talks for reasons unknown, or someone at the Council leaked it, in order to alert Wasps and encourage them to pressure SISU to drop it.
I know which one of those looks more likely to me... If so, would that not represent a failure in a duty of confidentiality from a Council officer or representative? Hmm.
In public life, sometimes it's the cover-up that gets you, rather than the infraction!
chiefdave
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For a club that now claims to have been nomadic and close to going out of business without their own stadium the way their fans relish the problems facing the football club says a lot about rugby supporters.
Even our biggest rivals, well apart from Sunderland with their made up rivalry, don't want to see the club forced out of the city or cease to exist but this lot can't wait and are encouraging Wasps to stick the knife in.
chiefdave
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When the council & Wasps told him.
I was eleven in 87
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Maybe they did tell him, but I still want to know when they told him.
Liquid Gold
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Well the council would have told the franchise when they were first notified.
No need to talk about while talks were ongoing.
Talks stall and they need some PR spin.
They both reveal this to various people who then pass it on to Gilbert.
It's clear as day who is trying to play us here.
SkyBlueDom26
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Why aren't any party releasing a statement about whats going on