The Ricoh.. (9 Viewers)
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Nick
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Always think there is a line with things like this. The lego comment is inside the line but photoshopping his head about being a paedo is a bit strange it's self.
It's the same as when people start getting "too" personal as well.
clint van damme
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the thing is everyone can argue, (and will do for ever more no doubt), about whether this is a contiuation of the legals or not.
In the meantime the clubs future is in doubt while they debate semantics, it's shameful, and in the meantime the clubs future is at stake, they should both fuck off back to london and continue their pissing contest there.
Liquid Gold
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I don’t know the need to get too personal when you can call him out on his poor journalism. He was played. A proper journalist would analyse his sources and motives behind the leak instead of just chucking it out there.
Grendel
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He’s really a reporter now for the BBC so he’s just there to generate interest in the dire CWR station and the odd appearance on Midlands Today
I’m sure Simon has written his own Wiki page. You’d think from that he is Bob Woodward.
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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If we get kicked out of the Ricoh I really hope SISU succeed in Europe.
The plastics in Coventry can slink off to supporting Man Utd and Liverpool again.
And sorry to real Wasps fans - as we clearly collateral damage to you, the demise of your team would be gleefully met by myself
The plastics in Coventry can slink off to supporting Man Utd and Liverpool again.
And sorry to real Wasps fans - as we clearly collateral damage to you, the demise of your team would be gleefully met by myself
Esoterica
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I posted this a month ago and am still fairly convinced this will happen if we are forced out of the city in an attempt to mop up all the fans who hate SISU more than they love CCFC.
chiefdave
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Think he's had a go on the CCFC one as well. He's also written his own reviews on Amazon!
Nick
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Remember when it came out that the council were negotiating with SISU just to lead them along to pass some time back in the day?
Didn't CCFC say there was a timescale on the heads of terms for the other place and it needed to be done soon? It wouldn't be beyond possibility that it was strung out again to try and get the groundshare option gone.
Didn't CCFC say there was a timescale on the heads of terms for the other place and it needed to be done soon? It wouldn't be beyond possibility that it was strung out again to try and get the groundshare option gone.
Wasps are here because sisu screwed up over the ricoh, it does not matter which negative subject you choose to debate over the past few years but sisu are the common denominator, they have no allies in anything they do, nobody wants to deal with them and they are basically horrible. I have said this before but I think we were lucky that it was a rugby club that jumped in and took the ricoh, if it had been another football club then they would have worked a lot harder to get rid of us and we would be dead and buried already.
We can keep talking and wasting time on CCC and now Wasps but we wont change anything for either of them. We were banking on Wasps being in financial issues and needing us at the ricoh to be able to survive, if this really is the case they wouldn't have backed out of talks so easily or looked for an easy way out if that is what you want to believe. Bottom line is that we need new owners now or this really could be the final nail.
We can keep talking and wasting time on CCC and now Wasps but we wont change anything for either of them. We were banking on Wasps being in financial issues and needing us at the ricoh to be able to survive, if this really is the case they wouldn't have backed out of talks so easily or looked for an easy way out if that is what you want to believe. Bottom line is that we need new owners now or this really could be the final nail.
chiefdave
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I think part of it is that the local media were happy to sit on the story regarding the ACL bail out which led to Wasps takeover for the benefit of CCC / Wasps but don't give a second thought to the potential damage to CCFC putting something like this out.
He's clearly been played and used by the Wasps / Council PR team and either can't see it or is happy to play there games just to get a few clicks.
shepardo01
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Do these people that quite obviously want this realise that "AFC Coventry Hornets" would have to start at virtually the bottom of non-league football, a consortium would not be needed (apart from to probably pay for ridiculous costs on matchdays) as players like their mate Dave from the pub would be on £20 a game - and would be being payed £20 more than every player they are playing against! The standard would be horrific and going away would involve basically standing in a field to watch games.... brilliant eh!!??
Esoterica
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Grendel
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Welcome back
Esoterica
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I think there is a perception that a walk up the leagues would be a formality, Hoffman sponsoring back to back promotion parties and spunking millions on Jermaine Pennant and Adam Rooney.
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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Wasps are here because the council thought it was a good idea to milk and screw the football club years before SISU took over..
The council are common denominator - and the ones who stand to lose if a complaint to the EU succeeds.
chiefdave
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Why? Wasps have now said they won't talk while 'proceedings surround our acquisition and ownership of the Ricoh Arena', a nice vague statement that could cover pretty much anything, certainly much wider ranging than their previous terms, which the club / SISU met.
There's no mention of not dealing with SISU, in fact they aren't dealing with SISU they are dealing with Boddy and the football club. SISU leaving won't alter anything, their new terms still won't and, if claims that the complaint can't be withdrawn are correct, can't be met.
Nick
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It's pretty much bang on.
I am shocked that Johnson was allowed to slip out that a new club could play at the Ricoh and not really be questioned much about it.
When questioned, there's just about 20 random social media accounts pouncing saying "you are just on SISU's payroll" over and over to try and discredit.
The same tactic is used time and time again, people in general don't want to listen or look though.
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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The only thing Wasps want is more subservient tenants, I’m all for new owners as long as they fight for our true value. Not whatever pittance wasps decide to give us
shepardo01
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Yes, those with no knowledge of non league football (most likely a large percentage of those wanting this!) realise that there are many many chairmen that have thrown thousands of pounds trying to go through the leagues... VERY FEW have been successful, and those that have EG wimbledon, took 7 or so years and did it at a time before money was even more prevalent in non league football.
As a ball park figure, Salford are reportedly paying Rooney 4k PW..... our top player at CCFC would not be on that much. Heard from good sources that we offered McNulty just under 4k PW to stay, but Reading offered 8k Our average wage would be around 1.5k PW...... Salford only went up via play offs!
FC united of mancester have just been relegated back to step 3 of non league I believe so are now playing at the same level as stratford.
Perspective required for all the delusionists that want this!!
cooperskyblue
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No one gives a monkey about CCFC apart from us the fans.
What I want to know is, what is SISU's end game? When they have exhaust all possible avenues regarding the ricoh sale then what? What do they do next?
What I want to know is, what is SISU's end game? When they have exhaust all possible avenues regarding the ricoh sale then what? What do they do next?
Warwickhunt
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Well if the Insect boss has seen the content of the EC complaint why can't we?
Bit late now methinks since SISU have grassed the council to the EC on State Aid infringments the EC will not let it go, all that is left for us is to move again:banghead: you are probably thinking why should they do anything after all its failed the British Courts 3 times! but the ECJ is totally different (thats why we are in this Brexit crap)
Bit late now methinks since SISU have grassed the council to the EC on State Aid infringments the EC will not let it go, all that is left for us is to move again:banghead: you are probably thinking why should they do anything after all its failed the British Courts 3 times! but the ECJ is totally different (thats why we are in this Brexit crap)
chiefdave
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That's what concerns me about Hoffman. The council / Wasps / ACL seem very keen to get him in, what has he agreed to?
fernandopartridge
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Let's remember when people talk about SISU "should have bought the stadium when they had chance" and "should have negotiated a better deal", they ignore who the chairman was at that point
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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I’d hope there’s a 50/50 partnership agreed - as much as I hate the idea, that’s the very least we’d need.
If it’s just a rental deal it’ll just put a ceiling on the club for the foreseeable future
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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If I remember - the council were never entertaining a deal on the scale of wasps purchase, and were never going to negotiate the rent.
It’s the only reason the council agreed to our sale to SISU.
covcity4life
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council do not want a prosperous ccfc because that would mean council lose out the greedy cunts
duffer
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The only thing that bugs me is that I seem to recall he defended the CET when they withheld the Les Reid story about the £14 million taxpayer bailout of ACL.
I'm all for open journalism and letting the truth out come what may, but it's difficult not to see a degree of pro-council bias in the differences in the way that the respective stories have been handled. And I always sense with Simon Gilbert that he wants to make himself part of the story too, which isn't uncommon amongst journalists nowadays, perhaps...
Nick
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Another one.
EXCLUSIVE: Coventry council pays damages to charitable housing firm after ‘witch-hunt’
I have tried to find this on the Telegraph Website and where they reported it but it doesn't seem to be on there?
ccfcrob
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He had the audacity to challenge me, so I couldn't leave it alone. :emoji_kissing_heart:
jordan210
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Grendel
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So being upfront even if that’s what happened with their intent would have solved the problem?
ccfcrob
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My dentist does not approve.
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Obviously not. It might have made it easier to get a protest going, mind you. And that might have had a result in helping change views or, at the very least, showing there were some angry and upset people about.
it might, in fact, have been in SISU's interests for the information to be out there earlier. I'm wondering why they chose to hold onto it.