The Ricoh.. (6 Viewers)

[RoboCCFC90]

The idea of sharing at the Butts, with temporary stands to about 10,000 capacity does sound really good for various reasons - I am not sure whether it's possible to get everything in place before August however.

I think we will end up at the Ricoh, but happy to wait and see.

 

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[Nick]

Jon Sharp has actually put a proposal in, in the past about a groundshare with us.

Just get that out and change the date.

 

[Sbarcher]

The idea of sharing at the Butts, with temporary stands to about 10,000 capacity does sound really good for various reasons - I am not sure whether it's possible to get everything in place before August however.

I think we will end up at the Ricoh, but happy to wait and see.

It will be interesting to see the CCC reaction to sharing at the Butts. If they throw up any objections, they should be lynched!

 

[ccfc92]

It will be interesting to see the CCC reaction to sharing at the Butts. If they throw up any objections, they should be lynched!

Realistically, I can't think of any genuine objections they can raise?

Their buddies Wasps get the Ricoh all to themselves, CCFC are pushed into a small stadium with the city's true Rugby club that they also hate. All's well that ends well.

 

[Grappa]

interesting numbers

 

[GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee]

interesting numbers

Where is this taken from? Slightly confused as to how Doncaster are in this when they clearly weren't League 2 last season?

 

[fernandopartridge]

I always thought temporary meant a maximum of 28 days in planning terms. Could be wrong

I think you're right, though not sure if there are any exemptions to it

You could have a point as Jon Sharp will undoubtably need funding I'm sure.

Coventry Rugby reveals plans for 12,000 capacity stadium redevelopment

Published a year ago but it gives the jist of it

That hasn't been formally applied for though as far as I'm aware.

 

[ccfc92]

I think you're right, though not sure if there are any exemptions to it


That hasn't been formally applied for though as far as I'm aware.

What happens with Gillingham's away stand? That is scaffolding etc, so is that classed as temporary?

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

I think you're right, though not sure if there are any exemptions to it


That hasn't been formally applied for though as far as I'm aware.

Unsure to be honest. I spoke to Peter Rossborough last year about it and he seemed positive but didn't go into any further details apart from 'things are heading in the right direction.'

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Realistically, I can't think of any genuine objections they can raise?

Their buddies Wasps get the Ricoh all to themselves, CCFC are pushed into a small stadium with the city's true Rugby club that they also hate. All's well that ends well.

Unless they manage to get past the temporary structure part of the General Permitted Development Order, the Council will need to inform a number of statutory consultees, including West Mids Police, Coventry City Council Highways, possibly Highways England, and the Council's Noise team. There may well also be material planning issues that they could object to. There is plenty of scope for CCC to put a spanner in the works at the Butts.

 

[Otis]

A roof or two may come in handy. If not, I’m starting a new poncho business.

I'm in. We will call it Gonzales.

That may well whoosh over many a head.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

The aforementioned GDP Order 2015 states:-
Permitted development
A. The provision on land of buildings, moveable structures, works, plant or machinery required temporarily in connection with and for the duration of operations being or to be carried out on, in, under or over that land or on land adjoining that land.

Development not permitted
A.1 Development is not permitted by Class A if—

(a)the operations referred to are mining operations, or
(b)planning permission is required for those operations but is not granted or deemed to be granted.

Conditions
A.2 Development is permitted by Class A subject to the conditions that, when the operations have been carried out—

(a)any building, structure, works, plant or machinery permitted by Class A is removed, and
(b)any adjoining land on which development permitted by Class A has been carried out is, as soon as reasonably practicable, reinstated to its condition before that development was carried out.

I can't find any definition of what is meant by the term "temporary" - it could go on for years, provided the structure is temporary!
The 28 day rule appears to relate to motorsport events or outdoor markets.

 

[fernandopartridge]

The aforementioned GDP Order 2015 states:-
Permitted development
A. The provision on land of buildings, moveable structures, works, plant or machinery required temporarily in connection with and for the duration of operations being or to be carried out on, in, under or over that land or on land adjoining that land.

Development not permitted
A.1 Development is not permitted by Class A if—

(a)the operations referred to are mining operations, or
(b)planning permission is required for those operations but is not granted or deemed to be granted.

Conditions
A.2 Development is permitted by Class A subject to the conditions that, when the operations have been carried out—

(a)any building, structure, works, plant or machinery permitted by Class A is removed, and
(b)any adjoining land on which development permitted by Class A has been carried out is, as soon as reasonably practicable, reinstated to its condition before that development was carried out.

I can't find any definition of what is meant by the term "temporary" - it could go on for years, provided the structure is temporary!
The 28 day rule appears to relate to motorsport events or outdoor markets.

Interesting, I think the club would have to still apply to demonstrate that they can discharge the conditions of the GDP or what the plan for doing so is....

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Where Sky Blues latest signing is looking forward to playing

Telegraph picked up his comments regarding the ricoh, either he knows something we don't or hes being lied to

 

[Grendel]

Where Sky Blues latest signing is looking forward to playing

Telegraph picked up his comments regarding the ricoh, either he knows something we don't or hes being lied to

Or it’s a pointless sound byte when asked the question

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

Where Sky Blues latest signing is looking forward to playing

Telegraph picked up his comments regarding the ricoh, either he knows something we don't or hes being lied to

I highly doubt he's being lied to, and I don't think he knows something we don't. It's as I said in my previous post, the club will be saying that they are doing its upmost to ensure that CCFC are playing at the Ricoh next season. Players will take from that conversation what they will.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Where Sky Blues latest signing is looking forward to playing

Telegraph picked up his comments regarding the ricoh, either he knows something we don't or hes being lied to

The Telegraph are attempting to exploit the emotions of fans, they've been doing it for a while.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I highly doubt he's being lied to, and I don't think he knows something we don't. It's as I said in my previous post, the club will be saying that they are doing its upmost to ensure that CCFC are playing at the Ricoh next season. Players will take from that conversation what they will.

....and it nevertheless is probably lower down the list of factors a player will look at when signing a new contract.

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

....and it nevertheless is probably lower down the list of factors a player will look at when signing a new contract.

The fact we've offered him a 3 year contract is obviously what's drawn him to the club primarily. But that's not directly relevant to SkyBlueDom's post.

 

[SBAndy]

Where Sky Blues latest signing is looking forward to playing

Telegraph picked up his comments regarding the ricoh, either he knows something we don't or hes being lied to

If the answer to that isn’t “in goal” I’ll be disappointed.

 

[skyblueinBaku]

I highly doubt he's being lied to, and I don't think he knows something we don't. It's as I said in my previous post, the club will be saying that they are doing its upmost to ensure that CCFC are playing at the Ricoh next season. Players will take from that conversation what they will.

*utmost*

 

[hill83]

*utmost*

Inch resting point.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Realistically, I can't think of any genuine objections they can raise?

Their buddies Wasps get the Ricoh all to themselves, CCFC are pushed into a small stadium with the city's true Rugby club that they also hate. All's well that ends well.

Parking for x,000 people. May say the roads can't deal with the traffic ?

 

[Frank Sidebottom]

Parking for x,000 people. May say the roads can't deal with the traffic ?

No worse than Highfield road with half the capacity. Might have to close Butts road between the ring road and Four pounds ave on matchdays.... but no more inconvenience than closing the roads for half marathons/cycle events/motofest.

 

[ccfc92]

Parking for x,000 people. May say the roads can't deal with the traffic ?

Park further away and walk? It takes about 15 mins to walk from town to BPA. Get a bus or taxi.

Parking is a minor excuse. It can work if all parties look for solutions rather than excuses.

 

[Otis]

Parking for x,000 people. May say the roads can't deal with the traffic ?

They wouldn't be able to, but it is within easy walking distance from town. That would be where they would need to focus their thoughts

 

[Johnnythespider]

Isn't the parking restrictions for the Ricoh triggered by crowds over 10,000, so with a capacity of 10,000 there should be no restrictions.

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

Park further away and walk? It takes about 15 mins to walk from town to BPA. Get a bus or taxi.

Parking is a minor excuse. It can work if all parties look for solutions rather than excuses.

Agree with this. Loads of buses come through there, easily walkable from town, train station just over the road, some residential streets where you can park by King Henry’s. Central Six has a 2/3 hour parking restriction so possible if you want to risk it. Uber wouldn’t cost much either!

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Yes, we all know that, CRJ, but the Council planning people will assume no-one knows it, so will try to make it into a material planning consideration (i.e. grounds on which they can object). If they were building something new (e.g. Woodlands), there would absolutely be a requirement for adequate parking. That the Butts has virtually none will sway their opinion.

 

[Otis]

Yes, we all know that, CRJ, but the Council planning people will assume no-one knows it, so will try to make it into a material planning consideration (i.e. grounds on which they can object). If they were building something new (e.g. Woodlands), there would absolutely be a requirement for adequate parking. That the Butts has virtually none will sway their opinion.

Big difference between a 10,000 seater and temporary share and the 25,000 seater and the new home talk that was mooted previously.

25,000 re traffic would not be doable, but I think 10,000 would be okay.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Yes, unless we start with an away game at St.Andrews
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[shepardo01]

Butts a no. Lad I work with plays for Cov Utd. Had a message today saying that 5g artificial pitch going in for start of next season. That rules out Butts under EFL rules.

 

[Otis]

Butts a no. Lad I work with plays for Cov Utd. Had a message today saying that 5g artificial pitch going in for start of next season. That rules out Butts under EFL rules.

Unless they can be convinced to change their minds

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Butts a no. Lad I work with plays for Cov Utd. Had a message today saying that 5g artificial pitch going in for start of next season. That rules out Butts under EFL rules.

I didn't know they went above 4G. Is it being installed by Huawei?

 

[Otis]

I didn't know they went above 4G. Is it being installed by Huawei?

Not sure. I was going to have a quick look on YouTube, but as I have a Huawei phone I can no longer do that can I.