What is going on with the Tory leadership contest? (18 Viewers)
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I think it's more the unfamiliarity. Like Clegg-mania and Corbyn. Just hasn't been under enough scrutiny yet. Compared to the likes of Johnson, Gove, Hunt, Leadsom etc he seems to be a bit less hardcore so I guess it's choosing the best of bad options. Not that it matters as I doubt many Tory members take heed of what the Guardian says
skybluegod
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As would Corbyn becoming PM- not exactly blessed on either side, I think Boris is the obvious choice as he the extreme opposite to Corbyn.
Both would be a shambles. God help us.
clint van damme
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To be fair to him he has done proper jobs before and by all accounts has done a decent job as prisons minister.
Also winning the drugathon with his opium confession.
Highly unlikely he'll win but if we are to have a Tory government I'd make him foreign secretary. With his military and diplomatic work he has a much better grasp of what's going on in the middle East than most
Ian1779
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But you can’t take the Tory out of him.... which means underneath he’s another cruel fucker happy to serve the elite... he’s just packaged nicer.
Ian1779
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Have you read anything other than the Daily Mail this lifetime?
skybluegod
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Bit of a crap response which doesn't even make sense.
Ian1779
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Which followed on nicely from the fact you stated Boris would be as bad as Corbyn... an equally shite conclusion to come to.
skybluetony176
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Boris seems very scared to answer questions.
Cov City Daytrader 87
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Something to hide perhaps?
skybluegod
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Please feel free to show where I said Boris would be as bad as Corbyn...
Clearly you don't even read... I said both would be a shambles. Didn't say which one would be better/worse. Just don't think that either would lead the country forward at least not meaningfully
skybluetony176
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I think it’s because if he starts answering more than 6 questions in a row his contradictions come to the forefront.
Cov City Daytrader 87
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A field day for the newspapers and news programmes to ridicule him.
Ian1779
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Well if me interpreting ‘as would...’ as something different to being as bad - then I’m clearly in the wrong.
Ian1779
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But they never will... we all know the ‘media’ choice (sorry Murdoch choice) is either Johnson or Gove.
skybluegod
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Yes you are. Saying someone would be a bad choice doesn't mean as bad. Otherwise I would have said 'Corbyn would be as bad'
Cov City Daytrader 87
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Murdoch right wing media, I'll agree on that, but not the left wing ones. They probably wouldn't care and just ridicule whoever is the leader of the Torys.
RegTheDonk
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lol fell at the first hurdle.
I'm going to stick my neck out and say Gove will pack it in and get behind Boris.
clint van damme
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He didn't.
Sick Boy
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I reckon it will end up being Hunt. They’d be insane to have Boris as PM.
clint van damme
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Jeremy Hunt is the safe option, what a time to be alive.
RegTheDonk
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Early days clint.
clint van damme
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I don't think for one minute he'll win but he has made it in to the next round.
RegTheDonk
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My apologies clint, I thought it was him not Harper who had gone.
clint van damme
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She's also thick as fuck and would give Boris a run for her money when it comes to lying.
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Problem is if Johnson gets in the top two, the crazy-arsed members will vote for him.
Grendel
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Yes members never reflect the electorate which is why Mr Corbyn is still one of the most unpopular political leaders in political history
Grendel
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I see no other possibility now
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Part of me in hindsight is wishing that last time rather than be pleased Boris got shafted I wish he'd got it, cos at least now we'd have got it over and done with, like chicken pox as a child. He (or anybody else) wouldn't have got Brexit done and we could now be looking back on his failure rather than dreading his ascension and it'd be one down, sadly a fair few more to go.
It seems to me that the media is going for Boris on this one as there's so many almost open secrets about his past that the papers won't touch that would almost instantly kill off his entire political career let alone a PM bid. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Gove cocaine revelations weren't a revenge by Boris for him stabbing him in the back last time and a pre-emptive strike to keep the rat faced arse from trying anything similar this time.
But whether it's him, Gove or Hunt (who I see as the Mike Pence to Boris' Trump in that he's a bit more stable but arguably ideologically even more dangerous) we'll see the same ubercapitalism of helping the rich while demonising those on benefits etc. as work-shy rather than more often than not underpaid.
The best I'm hoping for it getting the popcorn out and watching the entire thing from behind the sofa as it comes crashing down as even more people will be out to discover the skeletons.
I reckon we'll see Boris get it and Hunt and Gove as Chancellor and Home Office. I think Rory would be good at the Foreign Office with his multilingual skills. Javid might get something like Defence for equality and similarly Leadsom might get education (because she's a mother apparently, although she never mentions it). I would however laugh like a fucking hyena if he threw Gove under the bus and made him Brexit secretary
When you look at situations like this and you remember Yes Minister and The Thick Of It you wonder is the reality actually even more bat-shit crazy than the fiction.
It seems to me that the media is going for Boris on this one as there's so many almost open secrets about his past that the papers won't touch that would almost instantly kill off his entire political career let alone a PM bid. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Gove cocaine revelations weren't a revenge by Boris for him stabbing him in the back last time and a pre-emptive strike to keep the rat faced arse from trying anything similar this time.
But whether it's him, Gove or Hunt (who I see as the Mike Pence to Boris' Trump in that he's a bit more stable but arguably ideologically even more dangerous) we'll see the same ubercapitalism of helping the rich while demonising those on benefits etc. as work-shy rather than more often than not underpaid.
The best I'm hoping for it getting the popcorn out and watching the entire thing from behind the sofa as it comes crashing down as even more people will be out to discover the skeletons.
I reckon we'll see Boris get it and Hunt and Gove as Chancellor and Home Office. I think Rory would be good at the Foreign Office with his multilingual skills. Javid might get something like Defence for equality and similarly Leadsom might get education (because she's a mother apparently, although she never mentions it). I would however laugh like a fucking hyena if he threw Gove under the bus and made him Brexit secretary
When you look at situations like this and you remember Yes Minister and The Thick Of It you wonder is the reality actually even more bat-shit crazy than the fiction.
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skybluetony176
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Just a thought. In between handing money out to the rich has Boris pledged to cancel runway 3? Not heard anything but presumably Boris I will lay down in front diggers Johnson will be able to do this as PM?
Sick Boy
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He’s managed to avoid debates and answering questions so far, okay he has answered 6...he would be an unwise choice for them in the long term
Grendel
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He’s definitely going to be in the last 2 - I can’t see members opposing him
He won’t be long term - they just want someone who they think will deliver Brexit so Farage goes away and then thumps Corbyn in a GE after we have left
clint van damme
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I agree, so Amazon, Vodafone etc pay 20 percent on everything over 11 grand, sounds good to me.